Is it too much to ask for just a LITTLE bit of accuracy on this board?

@spalladino (17891)
United States
May 6, 2009 10:03pm CST
For some reason there has been an increase in the number of discussions posted on this board based on outrageous claims originating from this or that website that have not been independently checked for accuracy. The most egregious, in my opinion, are those pertaining to upcoming or pending legislative bills, which motivate folks to call, write or email their representatives with completely invalid complaints. With everything that is going on in this country I applaud each and every individual who is paying attention but, if we are going to stand on the wall, we NEED to be sure of what we challange...what we object to...what we support. The members of this board should not be forced to fact check every other discussion just as the members of this board should not be subjected to shocking and upsetting information that is not true. So, please, PLEASE, if you find something online that concerns you, check it out before posting it. I don't believe that's too much to ask, do you?
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
7 May 09
I'm totally with you. I have gotten so tired of the way certain people here love to use blogs as their source and do absolutely no factchecking whatsoever. Those same people will just run and hide when beaten over the head with facts from a multitude of valid sources. Sometimes I feel like I'm just wasting my time trying to show these people the truth over fiction.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
7 May 09
I had to laugh last night. I posted the exact bill that outrageous claims were being made about and a couple of other folks responded that the original information had nothing to do with the facts in the bill. *Certain* people continued to respond with outrage and indignation as if our posts in the thread did not exist at all. I guess they probably didn't in Fantasyland.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
7 May 09
I try to avoid websites and media that aim for one side only. That's getting harder to find these days!
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
7 May 09
What irritates me is when people take the writings of bloggers as hard news when they're not. I've lost all trust and respect for the mainstream media as well which is why I never take anything that's reported as the truth and nothing but the truth.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
7 May 09
Gotta say I agree with you. Can't tell you how many times I've seen links lead to a blog or the Huffington Report, which by the way, is NOT news! Seems both sides like to do it.
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
7 May 09
I'm so glad you mentioned Huffington Report. I actually though it was a sincere newspaper. What happened?
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
7 May 09
Very good point. One bill in particular is mis-reported, especially in the talk shows. They are saying it will be illegal to have a backyard garden! The bill is actually about inspecting vegetables that are for sale from farms and private gardens, not prohibiting the gardens.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
9 May 09
"You mean I don't have to worry about the garden police showing up to rip out my little garden?" But god help you if you so much as sell a single zuccinni out of that garden with out the propper permits, inspections and long laundery list of requirements.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
7 May 09
Funny, isn't it? But it lets talk show hosts rant and rave about rights being trampled on. I think there's a lot of funny business going on already, enough so that they have plenty of fodder without twisting around the facts.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
7 May 09
You mean I don't have to worry about the garden police showing up to rip out my little garden?
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
7 May 09
Facts? You actually want us to use facts? No, that's way too hard to do Sorry I had a bad day yesterday and my sarcasm is still my coping method. When I post I like to check a few different places about what I am posting about and if I can't find anything about it I won't post. I personally think that you should have added something about posting a link to their information source unless of course they are just posting their opinion.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
7 May 09
LOL...you mean facts are a bad thing??? Yep, I should have included something about posting links...that's a very good point.
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• United States
7 May 09
Honestly, when it comes to the internet - I do think that's too much to ask... be it here, or anywhere else. There may be a short period of time when things are good, but you're always going to lose that as the population of an internet community (such as myLot) increases past a critical point. It's just something to live with or actively deal with somehow... I don't know how to achieve the latter, however, so for now I just live with it.
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• United States
7 May 09
My point is that while there are some people who will check facts, a lot of people will not. It's not necessarily that they have malicious intent - it could just be that they're being lazy. A lot of information gets tossed around as fact and on the internet it is nearly impossible to moderate every case that claims facts without fact checking. It's too big of a place... and that was my point about growth. Say myLot was very little - it'd be easy to moderate with a small staff or even a few well-intentioned members. But as myLot grows, the ability to ensure quality posts (such as fact-checked claims) decreases.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
7 May 09
Hello codezebra and welcome to mylot. My request was born of frustration over the recent increase in the number of times I and others have been forced into a debate over the true facts vs the exaggerated fantasy posted as fact here. I don't agree that it's totally hopeless but I do agree that in some cases my request has fallen on deaf ears, mainly because those folks don't care about the truth.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
7 May 09
Da*n Mike, your new avatar scared the HE!! out of me!
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@murderistic (2278)
• United States
8 May 09
Spall, we have to watch what we say on myLot now, Rose is apparently reporting everything we say to WND.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
9 May 09
I missed that! Somebody PLEASE fill me in! Annie
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
9 May 09
Sure, make me do even *more* research! Ok, Annie, it was in this thread: http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1999059.aspx Response to Response #6. It's been four days now so I guess WND had no defense for their disgusting twisted *article*. Oops, there is go "degrading" them again.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
8 May 09
Yeah, I saw that post the other night...I'm so scared! I would be more than happy to have a public discussion with a representative from WND about several of their *news stories* but we both know that that'll never happen.
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@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
8 May 09
Sometimes I think the internet feels an obligation to be the number one creator of urban legends. It's not just on Mylot. It's the entire internet. Inaccurate information spreads like prairie fire.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
9 May 09
Ain't that the truth! I'm constantly trying to convince family members that one thing or another that they either received in an email or read on a website somewhere is bogus.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
9 May 09
GREAT discussion, Spall, and one that's been overdue! I guess it IS too much to ask for some here. There are some here for whom "facts" and "accuracy" have totally different definitions than they do for the rest of us. I'll admit, when I was new to the internet I would sometimes post links from some of the more biased blog sites but I honestly didn't know any better. Now I'll still sometimes use a link from either a liberal or conservative blog if they have a video or transcript of an interview or quote but it's not for their editorial content it's just for the information. Annie
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
9 May 09
Apparently it is, especially for a certain homophobe. I had problems at first identifying biased blogs disguised as news sites...still have to do some checking even now. There's just so much information out there lately. As I posted...somewhere...I almost fell for the "U.K. pulled all references to the Holocaust from it's schools" email that my mother fowarded to me, until I checked it out. She was so outraged about it that I haven't had the heart to tell her yet that it's not true.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
7 May 09
Most people have a bias towards a certain type of media, and tend to doubt that source less than others. I have to laugh at the frequency with which people use sites like World Net Daily as a source. I'd be less inclined to fact check a source from Fox News than WND, that's how bad it is. But it's not just a particular media source that suffers from inaccuracy - all of them do it. That's why I usually look up the legislation in question if a particular person is posting news on it from an indirect source (Fox, CNN, etc.). I'm with you on this one. If you're going to cry foul, make sure you fact check first.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
7 May 09
I think the bigger problem is that some people are actively seeking sources that say what they want instead of seeking the truth. Lately I've seen a huge rise in people on the left using DailyKOS and ThinkProgress kind of crap as sources. I only know of one person who consistently uses WND and yeah, they seem to be site that focuses on spreading rumors about Obama. I personally don't get the anti-Fox News bit. I have yet to have one person prove to me that any article from their is dishonest. I've even started threads challenging people to do that and there are never any takers.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
7 May 09
"Lately I've seen a huge rise in people on the left using DailyKOS and ThinkProgress kind of crap as sources." Right, left or center folks need to make sure that they not only learn the truth but that they only share the truth to the best of their ability. I totally agree with you that those two sites are crap.
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• United States
7 May 09
Oh my goodness I know exactly what you mean....especially the ones that are totally just being prejudiced against a certain group of people in society. I came across one the other day that i knew right away was completely outlandish and kept asking for a link to the bill, the link they gave was to a website and where one of the reviewers of the bill on that website was called "faith4action"....the one person who finally did submit a link was against everything the original poster was saying and prooved that the topic was blown WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY out of proportion, it makes me sick how certain people on here go out of there way to twist things and might make people prejudiced against other people
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
7 May 09
I agree, posts like those do serve to increase prejudice and they also waste the time of the staff at our elected representatives offices who have to then field angry phone calls, emails and letters from constituents over a non-issue, helping the *real* issues to become lost in the mess.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
7 May 09
When I post a piece of legislation I feel is relevent, I not only provide a link to the bill, I post the actual bill text (when length permits) along with my comments on whats wrong with the bill using segments of text from it to illustrate my points. I alos if possibly try to name sponsors and conflicts. For example, the food modernization and safety act that someone else pointed out as hype in this thread. Though it doesn't ban gardens, it does place severe restrictions and requirements on selling vegatabl;es from one's gardens, effecting mostly small farmers who would be driven ut of business by this. In addition to this, there were conflicts, a consponsor's husband heads up a consulting firm that had Monsanto as a client and in addition to this, the cosponsor herself had recieved over $180,000 in contributions from big food comanies that would benefit from the disapearence of small farms from the market base. THIS is how issues and bills should be adressed. There is enough legitimate scary stuff happening with out having to resort to hype. All hype does is discredit an important issue or movement.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
8 May 09
This is why you're the king of legislative information, x. You do go above and beyond which is why you have a reputation for being accurate and why you can be trusted. I have contacted my state reps numerous times with comments and concerns and I shudder to think of the how many others are making wild accusations based on misinformation supplied to them by others.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
8 May 09
I know....hard to believe, isn't it?
• United States
8 May 09
You mean there are people who actually read bills before going postal about them on here? Wow...
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@Barbietre (1438)
• United States
7 May 09
Ah but you know it is not going to happen. The few fringers here jump on anything they think is remotely negative before they read it through. And then if you come up with something to prove that they are wrong they do not even bother to read those links either.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
7 May 09
I hear ya! I'm a horrible person who's goal is simply to attack and "degrade" others when I go to the trouble to research the true facts and to post them...along with a link to the true facts. Some folks aren't happy unless they're crying about some bs...true or not.
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• United States
7 May 09
Accuracy on this board? The funny thing here is that the people that are doing this won't understand that you are talking about them. I agree with you 100%, I don't even bother looking at post that talk about this stuff in the subject line. Thanks for bringing this up.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
8 May 09
I know that I'm getting a reputation for being a b*tch by some of "those" people but I have to read those posts and I just can't stand seeing folks all worked up about absolutely nothing. I really pity those who live in fear due to ignorance. There are enough real things to worry about without adding total bs to the pile.
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@murderistic (2278)
• United States
7 May 09
Thank you for making this topic. There have been several times lately when I have ended up agreeing with posters only to later find from the actual source that the entire topic was a complete twist of reality.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
7 May 09
I thought I gave up teaching when I moved to Florida but I guess I'm stuck being the b*tch who has to correct this post and that one, too. I'm just a blah,blah,blah naysayer.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
7 May 09
Hey Spal, here's a great story on how even the morons in the media are too stupid to verify their stories and fell for a wikipedia hoax. It's their freaking JOB to verify what they're printing and they don't do it. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519283,00.html
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
8 May 09
LOL, it looks like the U.S. isn't the only country dealing with lazy reporters. That was a very good quote...too bad it was made up.
• Philippines
8 May 09
Don't worry I haven't reached the 500 post yet. but even though i reached that mark there's no way am gonna put too much attention on posting links about issues because i only do that when it's very interesting internationally. well, some prefer to post when they believed it can generate many responses and arguments in that discussion. you can't blame them, but nice point though.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
7 May 09
Actually when it comes to discussions like that, I mostly just skip, or answer in a neutral manner because first, I am too lazy to check sometimes, and second, whenever there are links our internet speed hinders me to multi-task. So I just leave it as it is.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
7 May 09
That sounds like a good way to deal with it. Sorry about your internet speed....
@eichs1 (1934)
• Philippines
7 May 09
I agree. Whether it's about legislation or anything else, facts should be checked before they will be posted as facts. Otherwise, we should know how to use the word "allegedly" or "according to unverified report". The best rule I think is, if you are not sure and you can not confirm it after all, don't post it.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
7 May 09
Sounds like a good rule to me!
@mimibt (52)
• Philippines
8 May 09
I think it just boils down to the persons principle. There are people who do not value integrity or are just plain lazy (which is another bad trait) and this is why we get postings that are not accurate. I guess we will just have to hope that more people will have the sense of responsibility towards what they post.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
8 May 09
Welcome to mylot to you, too, mimibt! You hit the nail on the head with the use of the word "integrity". Some folks have none. Their personal agenda and personal hatred take priority over any ethical standard...all the while claiming to be of such good moral character. At least they're usually good for a laugh at some point.
@taski24 (214)
• Philippines
8 May 09
Hi, spalladino. No, it is not too much to ask. But please don't have high hopes that you will get what you are asking for. Again, it's not too much to ask. Happy MyLotting!
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
8 May 09
Hi taski...welcome to mylot! Don't worry, my hopes aren't high. The same folks will still post the same garbage with no concern about whether there is any truth in it at all and I will continue to correct them when I can.