Is flirting post-marriage OK?
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
India
May 8, 2009 4:39am CST
We have this colleague who is just 40+…she is a compulsive extrovert and can be extra-sweet and extra-generous to any and every guy. In other words, she does what we girls know very well as ‘flirting’…
She herself told us that she avoids staying at home much as it makes her claustrophobic. She’s been seen by various colleagues at various parts of the city with various guys, but always just the two of them, never in a group. I’m sure its just plain fun, nothing more serious (not that I’m bothered) and there are many guys, in their middle age, perfectly respectable with family and kids, who also indulge in light flirting outside office and without the wife’s knowledge. Its some sort of midlife crisis I guess!
Do you know of anybody with similarities? Is it OK, specially with a good spouse (her husband is sort of hen-pecked) and kids around? Or, is everybody entitled to their own lives no matter what age and responsibilities?
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@awapak (1275)
• Pakistan
8 May 09
Maryam27,
Thanks for sharing your nice views on this subject.A Muslim lady should have such feelings.But first of all she should set a personal example for others.Our religion teaches chastity,modesty and proper Hijab for our ladies but unfortunately they say it is just a "private affair".I hope you are not that Maryam who has such views.Any way welcome to Mylot.......Please keep writing to spread this light in all over the world.Wish you happy life,amen.
@cynicalandoutspoken (4725)
• United States
8 May 09
I used to be an uncontrollable flirt. Probably up until the day I got married I would flirt with anyone and everyone, men or women. It was always harmless though. But now after being married for almost a year, I have limited my flirting to my closest friends and it is still harmless. And since most of it is done online, my husband knows all about it because I don't hide it from him.
It doesn't start arguments anymore because he realized I wouldn't be me if I didn't flirt. And he loves me :)
But the woman you speak of is doing a little more than flirting. If what she is doing is harmless then there should be no reason why she isn't going out in groups, not one on one. But I guess if her husband is ok with it and not fighting with her about it in front of any kids that might be present then to each their own.
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@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
8 May 09
In groups…yes I remember doing that many springs ago when I was in college or my early youth, with the office gang!
Good for you that you have a hubby who is so confident about you…its obvious he loves you a lot. But then I don’t blame him…you come across as a wonderfully intelligent and warm person
@cynicalandoutspoken (4725)
• United States
8 May 09
Intelligent and warm.....lol
Thank you for such a compliment. I guess I am those things.
But I think my husband just gave in because I am also determined and willful. Which is just a nice way of saying obstinate and uncontrollable :)
@mgmagana (3618)
• United States
8 May 09
she must be screaming for attention that she never got growing up! i can't stand women like that especially because most of the time they r flirting with married men... i blame the men too for giving her the attention she's so desperately seeking. i'm sure if they were to shoot her down and tell her to act professionally she'd stop but i'm pretty sure they don't!
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@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
9 May 09
What I find all the more frustrating is invariably such women are strong-willed with henpecked husbands or husbands admiring in a wrong way in the sense that they too feel proud that their wife is such a centre of attraction!
And you should just see her in the office…men practically eat out of her hands. We have a tea/coffee machine but she keeps her own stock of tea-bags and most men jostle for a cup of tea ‘made’ by her.
Its sickening in other ways too coz a hint of jealousy does creep into us – the other ladies and she’s not exactly setting a good example for the younger girls.
@lilmomof2 (88)
• United States
8 May 09
I agree with you 100%, I had a friend like that she would flirt with married men to see if she could get their attetion. It was really sicking to watch. I told her you know that if you talked to your husband that why you might have a better marriage.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
8 May 09
Actually Riya, I am trying to understand some stereotypes better. This lady is a mother of course, her worry for her son is no less than mine, she is there for her husband too, she cooks and cares and all other things but somehow she just enjoys male attention. So is it wrong because she is a married lady? Men have been doing it on the sly for so many years….
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@awapak (1275)
• Pakistan
8 May 09
Sudipta,
Flirting in any part of life,either by males or females, is highly objectionable and dangerous to our society and morality as a whole.The plight of western women is quite obvious to all.The concepts of marriage, family life,modesty and chastity have vanished and dating has taken over as the only source of satisfaction for the new generation......We should never be effected by the western culture and try to revive our own moral values for a happy, sinless life.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
9 May 09
Hi Awapak, its a long time since I have seen you or heard from you, hope everthing's OK with you and your family.
Flirting I think is a disease of the mind irrespective of region or religion...people flirting continously need psychological treatment.
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@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
9 May 09
Yes, in such matters I like our oriental conservatism...studying in co-education schools and women going out is nothing wrong if we can keep our values and training in mind.
@alexandra777 (643)
• Philippines
20 May 09
To me as an spectator of what's happening around, seeing female acquaintances openly flirting with men who are not their husbands, the scene is just not right in the eyes of God. But while reading this whole discussion, these questions are for me: "By my shortly holding the hand of a close male friend while my husband is with me, does that denote flirting? Talking with a group while my hand is resting on one of the men's shoulder or giving a pat to their backs while enjoying fun and laughter, will that portray me as a flirt?"
I've been that way since i joined a fraternity/sorority in college and carried that to my line of work. I met my husband and he knows this is just my jolly attitude. I am happily married and i should say flirting when you are a married woman is not to be accepted. People despise women who blatantly display such inappropriate actions.
I may be unaware of it but do people see me as such? I am a "talk and touch" kind of a communicator. Do i need to refrain from doing that when my own husband sees nothing wrong in it?
I don't know your colleague personally but if you consider her as such and you are concerned about her then perhaps you can find a way to talk to her about it. But if she is one who does not care who she offends or hurts then we can do nothing but pray for her. I for one would appreciate it if someone comes to me and help me be a better person, a better friend, a better woman, a better wife. And i'm sure my husband would be the first to do that for me.
Hi sudipta! Thank you for this eye-opening discussion. I'll go ask my husband's opinion i'm sure he'd love to discuss things like these!
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
21 May 09
Alexandra, be sure you are not a flirt...how you describe yourself is exactly how I am...with close male friends its never an issue either with me or my husband if I just pat someone's back or tease someone and we have a good laugh over it. since both of us are friends from college days, we have many mutual friends who are male. But this lady is openly flirtatious...like I said, she would accompany male colleagues to the market when they want to gift their wives something...according to me she has no business going...but she enjoys the attention, the importance...more than flirting, the attention is there. Almost diva-like, men could just eat out of her hands and she of course has to flirt to keep her place amongst them.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
22 May 09
Is that your hubby in your avatar? If so, then you both look so happily made for each other, there's no question of you crossing the line!
@alexandra777 (643)
• Philippines
21 May 09
Yup, we are not flirts! I did ask my husband and shared this discussion to him and he said it, what i do is not flirting even when i give hugs to our mutual male friends! Oh, i am just relieved to know i have not gone out of boundary!
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
9 May 09
Hi! Sudipta!
I think if your friend is indulging in lighter fun and flirting, I think there is not a serious issue. If she knows that where are the limits and she should not cross the limits, then she can allow herself the enjoyment. I have not come across a woman specially in my office, who indulges in such kind of activities. However, some men could be who enjoy doing it, but our office environment is such that one cannot take much liberty and one has to be within limits.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
9 May 09
Hi Deepak,
Yes, even I am sure it is light-hearted fun, she just needs to be at the centre of all things all the time and surrounded by men. For that she goes out with anybody adn everybody (esp. men) to the markets, or just for a chat, to the bank, whatever...she just needs to be out of her home and with 'friends'...only thing is that she enjoys men friends more than women friends
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
11 May 09
Hi Sudipta!
If your friend likes the comany of men friends, no harm in it. While communicating and conversing, she may be at ease with men folk. You see it is matter of self satisfaction and enjoyment for her, if she is comfortable doing it (without any guilty feeling) let her enjoy it.
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
9 May 09
Hi! Sudipta!
I think if your friend is indulging in lighter fun and flirting, I think there is not a serious issue. If she knows that where are the limits and she should not cross the limits, then she can allow herself the enjoyment. I have not come across a woman specially in my office, who indulges in such kind of activities. However, some men could be who enjoy doing it, but our office environment is such that one cannot take much liberty and one has to be within limits.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
9 May 09
I too think its light flirting. Though she’s been seen by people with single partner at many places, I don’t think its physical. Once one colleague brought a new sari to office and both of them were beaming so we asked what’ the matter? And he said that his anniversary is coming so he wanted to gift his wife an expensive sari so she took this flirtatious colleague with him the previous evening to choose the sari! And since some rework needs to be done, he’s brought it with him today because this colleague has a very good tailor near her house and she’s promised to do it for him…when we asked wont his wife mind (some other lady choosing the sari) he said NO, she knows about her (this colleague)…so you see the situation!
@prinzcy (32305)
• Malaysia
9 May 09
No, I don't think it's okay. Whether she just playing around and mean no harm, it still wrong. Don't spark fire with fire. It might end up worst. Whatever her intention is, she should stop it. Her husband might be nice but you will never figure out what he'll do if he find out. The worst, her kids know about it. They might be disgusted with her action.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
9 May 09
Her husbands and child seem rather proud of her popularity!