How Will Tripp Feel 10 0r 15 Years From Now?
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
May 10, 2009 2:48am CST
Really, how do you suppose Tripp Palin will feel when he gets older and learns he was taken all over the place and put on TV as the example of the big "mistake" his other made and why other young girls shouldn't make the same one? I KNOW this is going to be taken by some as an "attack" on Sarah Palin's child who should be off-limits but this has nothing to do with Sarah anymore except for the fact she is the mother of the face of the "abstinence only" campaign and the grandmother of the "poster-child" for "what not to do". Bristol made her own decision to represent organization and it's certainly her right to do so but does anyone else feel sorry for that poor baby and wonder how he'll feel several years from now? It could very well seem to him like his mother sat and held him on her lap as she told people if they did as she did instead of what she said they could also get stuck with a baby like him!
Annie
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
10 May 09
I'm sure if Tripp sees any of the Abstinence campaign footage or interviews once he's older, it's going to have a negative emotional effect on him. Bristol has talked about how she had to give up her dream of attending college outside of Alaska...so he can feel blamed for that.
I keep seeing the word "hypocracy" though in the articles and blogs I come across about this campaign. It seems that the general view among the very people this campaign is trying to reach...teens...see her as an *as if* joke...*as if* I'm gonna take advice about abstinence from an unwed, single mother would couldn't manage to follow it herself. I'm sorry, I don't care whose kid she is...she's an adult woman sitting on the wrong panel right now. She would be more effective, and look less like the puppet controlled by her mother that she is, if she were actively supporting comprehensive birth control education. Then she could say in all truth and honesty that abstinence does not work and, if she had been encouraged to be informed and to protect herself, and had been on the Pill, the patch or the Depo shot, she'd be planning for her future education at a university somewhere instead of being at home with a baby and in the center of a fight between two families that is hurting a lot of people.
@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
11 May 09
Well done spalladino! My feelings exactly! Clearly the whol abstinence thing doesn't work, why doesn't she preach that???
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
10 May 09
"I'm gonna take advice about abstinence from an unwed, single mother would couldn't manage to follow it herself."
Why not take advice from someone who has personally been through the experience herself? A person can still give good advice. I knew a woman who worked as a counselor at a battered womnan's shelter and her life sucked. She always had some kind of drama going on in her personal life but she still gave others good advice.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
11 May 09
These 255 teens were only focusing on the problems in Alaska:
With teen pregnancies on the rise, with a report last year that one in four teenage girls are infected with at least one of the common sexually transmitted diseases, these student leaders are right: Adults are doing teens no favor by glossing over the facts of life.
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@opalina143 (1240)
• Morristown, New Jersey
10 May 09
I never really thought about it that way but I guess you could be right. It's hard to tell how the children of politicians feel, especially failed politicians. It would be interesting to do a special on Sarah Palin's kids about ten years from now and see what kind of impact their mothers' campaign and the media battles had on them.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
10 May 09
Failed politician? She's still the Governor of Alaska and they seem to be doing just fine. Her bid for the vice presidency failed but does that make her a failed politician? I don't think so.
It's my understanding that she took her son Track campaigning with her and went door to door pulling him in a little wagon. He is now 20 and is enlisted in the army stationed in Iraq since September of last year. It seems like all of her children are very well behaved and presentable.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
11 May 09
I guess whether Palin could be called a "failed politician" would depend on one's definition of failed. She WAS a part of a ticket that failed and some believe she lost them many more votes than she gained them. She DID have a very high approval rating in her state until the rest of the country got to know her and she decided she didn't have to stay home very much to take care of her state's business.
Do you think Sarah is behind Bristol's new activism regarding abstinence?
I think when she campaigned pulling her oldest son in his wagon that was only in the tiny town of Wasilla. That can hardly be compared to traveling the country as the V.P. candidate.
Annie
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
11 May 09
I'm sure there will be heartless boors continuing to stoop as low as they can to keep up the media inspired lies about Sarah Palin. The constant attack is living proof that the Women's movement has nothing to do with women at all.
Liberalism abhors free thought or individuality... especially from women.
Quite holding her down so the media can continue to rape her.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
13 May 09
Is there something in this post that could be considered "media inspired lies about Sarah Palin"? It's not even about Sarah, so I don't see how it could be. I don't understand what this has to do with the women's movement or liberalism, either. Should the media have refused to put Bristol on the air?
Annie
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
11 May 09
I think that if the poor kid can survive that ridiculous name, he can probably survive anything. LOL
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
11 May 09
Kids will find a way to make fun of even normal names. I went through high school being called "Banana Vanilla" because it rhymed with my real name.
Moon Unit turned out normal. Pretty much.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
10 May 09
I certainly agree with you on this subject. I think that is one decision that any mother will regret. I hate any form of children being exploited but to have a mother declare nationwide that her child was a mistake and that she is stuck with him was unnecessarily cruel. However I feel sorry for the child to be labeled as unwanted and believe she will regret it when the child is older.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
10 May 09
"However I feel sorry for the child to be labeled as unwanted and believe she will regret it when the child is older."
Yes, better yet, have an abortion when you make a mistake and that way they never have to learn they weren't planned.
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
11 May 09
piasabird I am nor sure if you are pro or con abortion as you may have just been sarcastic. However I am only pro abortion in certain curculmstances and this does not fall into my pro category.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
10 May 09
You know, part of the problem whiteheather, is that you're taking Annie's claims at face value. Since Annie doesn't use quotes, or cite sources that aren't left wing blogs, you have to investigate before assuming she's telling the truth. Here's what Bristol REALLY said about Tripp.
Bristol Palin, 18-year-old daughter of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, told Matt Lauer that a baby “is not just an accessory on your hip. This is hard work.” But she called her 4-month-old son Tripp “not a mistake at all. He’s a blessing.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30597615/
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
11 May 09
I was going to stay awway from this thread, honestly, it doesn't even belong in the politics section, maybe in life or parenting, but it isn't remotely political. And second, it borders on unessesary smearing.
But after reading many of the responses I felt I had to stop in and call people to the mat on some of the disgusting and out right childish things I saw being posted, you know who you are, shame on all of you.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
11 May 09
I'm kind of used to the "let's shoot the messenger" bit around here. It doesn't belong in politics? I guess that point could be debated but it involves the child of a political figure and it involves an issue that has been made political whether it should be or not. I'd hardly call is unnecessary smearing since Bristol was the one to make the decision to appear on all the morning shows to promote abstinence, something she herself had called "unrealistic" not that long ago.
Annie
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
11 May 09
It is up to the parents to make sure their children grow up feeling special and loved whether they are the product of a perfect family situation or of a less than ideal one. Tripp will probably grow up knowing a loving family and probably learn the lessons they are trying to teach about abstinence, and not because he is a "poster boy" for the campaign, but because he will be surrounded by family members who will teach him. A loving family can help overcome a world of hurt for a child, especially something that happened even before he was born. In such a context, it probably won't impact his life that much.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
11 May 09
Thank you for giving your opinion without getting nasty about it! That's what I was hoping to get from this discussion, some real give and take, back and forth debate. I put my title in the form of a question because I wanted to get others' opinions on it. Obviously this isn't something there's a right or wrong answer for because we can't possibly know how Tripp will feel as he grows up. Every child is different and we don't know what the rest of his upbringing will be like. I have no doubt he will be loved and well cared for, I've certainly never meant to imply otherwise.
Annie
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
11 May 09
Annie, it's truly sad that you can't talk about Sarah Palin without getting nasty about it.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
12 May 09
I hope we all can wish the best for each other's kids and grandkids no matter what our political views are like. Those little ones are innocent and deserve the best chance we can give them.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
10 May 09
You just can't help yourself can you Annie? I think you're going beyond obsessed when it's not only her children, but her grandchildren that you can't stop talking about.
My brother was a mistake as many kids are. It's not that big a deal. I don't think Tripp will feel horrible when he learns that. It certainly didn't change how my brother or anyone else I've known that was a "mistake" felt about themselves.
For the record she has made it clear several times that she is happy to have him and her only wish is that she could have had him later. I'm sure Obama's mother felt the same way since she was only 18 when he was born. At least Bristol's not saying she was "punished" with a child.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
10 May 09
You can't help YOURSELF, Taskr, since you had to make this personal! Your defensiveness when it comes to anything involving the Palin's is going BEYOND beyond obsessed. Bristol put herself out there by becoming the face of The Candie's Foundation and appearing on all the morning news shows the other day. Did your mother do that? I really love how you threw that "punished with a baby" line in! That WAS clearly taken out of context and everyone knows is but I'll bet you think Bristol was right when she claimed the other day that SHE had been taken out of context when she said a few months ago that abstinence isn't "realistic", don't you?
Do you really NOT think she's exploiting her baby by becoming the PAID ambassador against teen pregnancy?
http://blog.taragana.com/n/unwed-mother-bristol-palin-governors-daughter-joining-teen-pregnancy-prevention-campaign-53123/
Annie
@piasabird (1737)
• United States
10 May 09
I couldn't agree with you more! Not only was Obama's mother young but she was 3 months pregnant when she married Barack Sr. who, by the way, the son looks nothing like! I'm sure Barack Jr. wasn't planned at all.
@piasabird (1737)
• United States
10 May 09
I'm sorry, Annie, but didn't Obama say that he wouldn't want either of his daughters "punished" with a baby?
@iriscot (1289)
• United States
10 May 09
I feel sorry for the boy, not only for what you have stated but his given name "Tripp", I can just hear the other kids taunting him saying "Hey Man, that was a trip", when things go wrong. There are some stupid given names out there and this is one of them.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
11 May 09
I kind of like unusual, unique names. Some names I've seen celebrities give their kids have been a bit TOO odd but Tripp's not bad. We all have our own tastes in names and it seems that for many of us, whether we have a perfectly normal common name or a unique one we usually don't like our own!
Annie
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
10 May 09
I can't say much my son's middle name is Storm. Which he confessed he really likes, by the way.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
10 May 09
Is he being paraded around as a mistake? I haven't seen it. Thank god the Obama girls won't have to be punished with a baby! I wonder when they hear that how they feel?
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
10 May 09
Honestly, no I haven't but that's not unusual for me. I don't generally watch stations that would show it. There's also the fact I've been hooked on a video game lately.
My opinion is she shouldn't be doing it. Don't get me wrong there. I also think Obama shouldn't have made his stupid statement and that one is going to come back to haunt him in the future.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
10 May 09
I heard someone the other day sum it all up well about Palin they said something like, listening to her about abstinence is like listening to someone tell you not to smoke pot while lighting up a joint. I really hope that this child never has to see any of these interviews. But, honestly she's running around preaching abstinence and getting paid what really is that teaching kids? Get pregnant only if you can make a buck off of it?
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
11 May 09
Good point, Zeph! She could say it worked out well for her because now she can make money exploiting her baby but most young girls aren't the daughter of somebody rich and famous nor will they be invited to be the paid ambassador for doing the opposite of what they did!
Annie
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
11 May 09
Hey annie! You know, I wonder if this dumb azz has even taken
one single minute of time to give any thought to what her
child might feel years from now! And has no one in her stupid
azz family, like her moron mother given her advice, never mind,
I know the answer to that one! That poor child probably hasn't
even been considered! She is ignorant! She doesn't even know
what she is doing! She is a hypercrit and is one day going
to deeply regret everything she is saying when her son comes
to her and asks her that question about why she didn't really
want him! And the father has no say because he is a weak wuss
and is scared to fight for his child! They are really pathetic!
That whole family is a mess! The Palins are the perfect
example of what not to be like in bringing up any children
at all!
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
11 May 09
Well your behavior and maturity make it clear this will be a waste of time, but I'll post the truth for you anyway. She has NEVER said that she didn't want him. NOT ONCE.
Bristol Palin, 18-year-old daughter of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, told Matt Lauer that a baby “is not just an accessory on your hip. This is hard work.” But she called her 4-month-old son Tripp “not a mistake at all. He’s a blessing.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30597615/
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
11 May 09
Opal.....
Wow. I was going to stay out of this thread because I thought it was trivial to the state of things right now, but I just HAD to stop in after reading your well thought out and incredibly insightful comment. You so intuitively managed to articulate some very intelligent points, your political prowess has been a shining example to us all.
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
10 May 09
I saw Britol on GMA Wednesday, and she had a canned statement, and didn't go off of it. When she was asked about the hypocracy of a women who said last year the abstinence is not realistic (yet to day is being paid by an organization to preach abstinence), and is now telling girls that abstinence is the only way. All she said is that abstinence is the best way. I am sure her mother would be so proud of her staying on plan, not answering questions, and just sitting there smiling (just like her mommy does). The only thing she is a poster-child for is hypocracy, and what is wrong with this country. I have no problem with someone getting paid for talking about a subject, but why go on a show and only answer the questions you want to answer. I do feel very sorry for that poor little baby, he is growing up in one messed up family, that uses everything and everyone for their own personal and political needs.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
10 May 09
Taskr, this discussion has nothing to do with the Obama's so please try to curb your obsession with them if you want to participate here...lol!
TGD, you're right, and I think Bristol was ill-prepared for the interviews she gave. If I were the one paying her I'd be thinking I haven't gotten my money's worth. She claims she was "taken out of context" when she said abstinence isn't realistic; fine, if that's what she thinks she should explain WHY she thinks that since she said it about as clearly as it could have been said.
Annie
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@NuttyMomma (901)
• United States
11 May 09
I understand that Bristol is young but she is the one who went against her mother to say that abstinance doesn't work and now that she had her baby all of a sudden she is for abstinance? I think it is more like her mother is going to do everything she can to look better for her political career and she pushed her daughter to publicly change her mind. As far as her baby goes, it is sad whenever a child is brought into the world when the parents are not together. It is going to be harder on him because of the public eye being on them. I am sure that Sarah Palin's fifteen minutes of fame will be over by the time her grandson is in preschool so hopefully he will have a better life then. I think that Bristol made a mistake but I guess she wants to be a good daughter.
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
11 May 09
It's presumptuous of you to say Bristol's change is due to pressure from her mother. I think it more likely Bristol realized she made a mistake and wanted to try and help other kids not make the same one. Nothing to do with her mom's career but with her own convictions. She realized she should have listened to her parents, because abstinence would have worked if she had embraced it. Saying that abstinence doesn't work is ludicrous.
@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
11 May 09
I think it's an embarassment to her. Why in the world would she be running around teaching abstinence only, when it clearly doesn't work??!!
I do feel sorry the baby, he'll know what his life started out like. Poor little guy.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
10 May 09
I would not know what to think. I would be upset if Sarah Palin had aborted the baby. I mean it must be hard to care for a child with Down Syndrome and it would not be right to lock him in a closet. ARe you saying she should have been ashamed of him? As for Bristol, I would think her mother told her time and time again to come home at a decent hour, and when she found out she was pregnant, went up and down on her for her bad behavior, but of course, they would not say that on Tv because it would be too upsetting.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
10 May 09
But I never knew you were referring to Bristol's baby and that you were talking about abstinence in a sense if she had taught her daughter well, Bristol would not have gotten pregnant. I do think Bristol is preaching abstinence ion a sense of do not do as I did and if you do, you will have to give up so much. There are many girls who do not think it does matter and a lesson from someone who went against propriety has a greater impact.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
10 May 09
I'm not discussing Sarah's youngest child TRIG but Bristol's baby TRIPP. Of course I'm not saying anyone should ever be "ashamed" of any baby! If you'd like to READ the discussion and comment again I'd love to know what you think about the actual topic.
Annie
@bdugas (3578)
• United States
11 May 09
Some of you act like this is the first baby ever to be born out of wedlock, or by a teenager. God the girl made a mistake, will she because she is
sarah Palin's daughter be punished for it for the rest of her life. As I read through the responses I can't tell if you got something against the girl or her mother. I am sure what she though back months ago and what is happening and her thinking now that she has the baby is a total different thing. What I see her doing is showing other teen girls that if they believed the way she did back then, this is what you get out of your thinking. Does it make it that much more important that she is governor Palin's daughter, from what I saw of the family, it is a very ordinary family, they have their ups and downs the same as the rest of the people in this USA. I think he will be brught up to know that he is loved and that no matter what she is not sorry that she had him only that it would of been better had she waited.
I saw Obama say that he would not want his daughters punished with a baby if they got pregnant, to me that meant go out lay down get pregnant and we will just do away with it. At least Palin told her daughter you got pregnant now deal with it, she is a young girl, she made a mistake, I think most are so obsesses with the hatred for Palin that they sit and wait for anything bad they see on Tv or read in the news. I don't think Palin lost any votes for McCain and where I am from, most voted for him because of her. Seems a lot of women are jealous of her because she went out and done what she wanted, become what she wanted, instead of sitting at home on the couch. So now it doesn[t matter what side the daughter is on, someone wants to make sure the son is told as soon as he is ready to understand that he is a mistake and wasn't wanted. How cruel some people are they can only think of bad things to bring down upon a child. Like I said seems like a loving ordinary family, other than her being governor. And I'm sure the love that will be shown over the years will let him know even though he wasnt' planned he is loved more than he can imagine.
Some of you people need to get a life and get off Sarah Palin and her family.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
10 May 09
I don't know. He might not think anything about it ..... until someone like you brings it up.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
10 May 09
Someone like Annie? How about someone in his class in middle school or high school? Or do you think the interviews Bristol gave and the panel discussion and who knows what else she'll be doing as she continues to promote the worst possible form of birth control ever will magically be gone by the time he's older? Geez, get a grip.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
11 May 09
Personally any political family and their children go through heck. Look what poor Chelsea went through or Carter's daughter.
I really don't think the media or any of us should have made an huge event of this for that reason. What about when Tripp grows up. How is going to feel about the fact that his birth was world wide news and up for public debate?What about his rights to privacy as an individual. I don't think celebrity's kids should be exploded for a news story either. Family and kids should be off limits.
As for how the Palin's feel. Well all I hear is that Bristol says she loves her son but that she wishs to had waited til she was older to have him. Which is something I think a lot of younge moms feel and I have heard a few say. It does not mean they love them any less. Just means they wished they had waited til they were more mature and better situated in life to be able to handle parenthood mentally, emotionally and fiancially.
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@csrobins (1120)
• United States
12 May 09
Yeah ha I never though of that. He will hopefully be able to keep everything in perspective though. Maybe if he turns out very attarctive that might help haha. What about other celeb babies too that will probably learn one day they were more famous when they were in the womb than they are now ha. I wish I could think of some but I know their are some.
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