Should mylot intimate us about the infractions?
By srganesh
@srganesh (6340)
India
May 11, 2009 7:12am CST
On the other day,a member complained of missing $2 from his/her earnings and shockingly,another complains of $7.Earlier, we learn,all miss some few cents in the course of time.And we know it is due to deletion of some posts.Do you think,mylot should intimate in personal to everyone how much they get infractions and for what?Please discuss!
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
11 May 09
It states in the TermsofUse that they will NOT warn us when they delete things and when we join we sign that we agree.
If we are careful and read the Guidelines and we follow the rules when posting a discussion and we do NOT post on a discussion which contains a violation and will be deleted later, then we will not lose anything.
Simple!
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
11 May 09
I think we should all go back to school here once a week to understand them a bit better srganesh
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@derlilaStern (1756)
• United States
11 May 09
I agree that it really is quite a simple solution!
I dont even think it is plausible for them to inform every person who loses money because of a deleted post or deleted comments. There are over 170,000 members (according to the bottom of my page!). If myLot had to contact even half of them because of deleted post, it would take forever! In order to actually inform people about the nature of the infraction, a person would have to at the very least select a template to be sent. That would cost myLot a ton of money. That expense would be passed on to everyone who uses myLot. That definitely would not be a fair solution to those who obey the guidelines!
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@memorexboy (567)
• Philippines
11 May 09
Me also sometimes i loss some cents. But its ok.
Maybe the thread i replied have been deleted.
Thats why i limit myself not replying on threads that violate the rules here in Mylot.
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@memorexboy (567)
• Philippines
12 May 09
Thanks for your help. Without you my reputation will be so low.
Thanks
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@lexus54 (3572)
• Singapore
11 May 09
I feel that whatever the Terms and Conditions say, it is good for myLot administrators to let a member know why certain earnings have been deducted from a member's account because of post deletions. Many times, I hear members say that their earnings had dropped, but they did not know why, or if they were aware which posts were deleted, they did not know the reason or what rules were violated. I think an understanding of this will help members gain a better knowledge of the workings of myLot, as well as educate them on what to avoid to stay within the rules of this site.
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
11 May 09
If people do not know why their earnings have dropped, it can only be because they haven't read the Guidelines, Terms and FAQs. I can understand that many people don't, either because it is too much trouble to do so or because they are just plain lazy, but it should be clear to anyone that not reading clearly displayed terms and conditions is NO excuse for complaints when MyLot act according to them.
The Guidelines and the FAQs are written in English that ought to be comprehensible to an 8th grade student - 13 to 14 year olds with English as a first language - (according to checks I have made with several sites that evaluate text). I would suggest that anyone who does not have that level of reading ability (which may be different, of course, from writing ability) has no business being here.
@lexus54 (3572)
• Singapore
12 May 09
While I will agree with you that T&Cs might be clearly written, there may be many reasons why posts get deleted or earnings rescinded. To a member who sees that he/she has overnight seen a reduction of say 10 or 20 cents in the earnings, it is certainly hard for the person to know which and how many posts may have been deleted, and the specific reason(s) for them being deleted, i.e. which T&Cs were violated. Admin informing affected members will certainly help them decipher this better, and alert them to the violations. It's the same with traffic violations. If you drive everyday and one day you are just fined $100 without being told what offense you committed, where and when that took place, will you know it yourself even if you know all the traffic rules in the rule book for which fines can be imposed on you?
@creationsbyrobin (3071)
• United States
11 May 09
I had more than $2 removed from my account at one time ($2.43 to be exact) That would have to be one HUGE number of posts eliminated at one time to remove all that money from my account.
Considering that probably 90% of my posts are in the crafts and health forums...not forums known for illegal links...IMO opinion the amount of money removed seems quite a bit.
Not knowing what was removed, makes it even harder to pinpoint how I lost so much at one time.
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
11 May 09
It seems to me that, if your account was deducted that amount (and your User Rating did not change), it would be worth your while contacting MyLot to ask why. Did you do that?
@creationsbyrobin (3071)
• United States
11 May 09
And my number of 1535 was not adjusted in any way. I would have thought having posts deleted would affect this number...but it hasn't.
@techgurl (451)
• Greece
11 May 09
It would be the fair thing to do from MyLot, but unfortunately I don't think they are even considering it. I think that the members deserve to know what they have done wrong and by that learn from their mistakes and not make them again. In my opinion, this will increase the quality of mylot as people will start paying more attention to the rules and be careful not to break them.
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@Mullahz (25)
• Israel
12 May 09
Like others stated, MyLot clearly warned they won't tell us what they deleted.
Though i think they should, only way to learn from your mistakes is to actually know what you did wrong, and I doubt people will learn this way but rather get really angry.
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@srganesh (6340)
• India
12 May 09
No!Anger is not the feeling,members have here for the deductions.If that is the case,they would have simply left the site.Just confusion,dilemma...whatever name you can call.Reading through all the posts,I understand,members should go through the TOS again and again to have a clear idea.And you need not blame anybody.Cheers!
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
13 May 09
Personally it would be nice when people get a discussion removed for some reason if myLot would take the time and send them a personal note why the discussion was removed, and why their earnings were reflected as well. I know that these type of things do happen, and it can be frustrating, but it is a GREAT way to chase off people, especially the newer ones here as well.
Maybe someday myLot will consider this and do something more for people as well.
@subha12 (18441)
• India
12 May 09
First of all its very nice you have taken forward our points. In this discussion some has mentioned we may have not followed guidelines. But its not true.I have seen minutely that earnings are deducted many much from Task income. I am not sure. plus the $ was deducted from the carry forward income
@ketybhagat (4123)
• India
13 May 09
I think mylot should inform us when deleting money from our accounts. Its only fair because when given, its ours and when someone takes from our money, we need to be informed. That way, a person will know which of his discussion was against the rules and why. If we dont know where we went wrong, how are we supposed to correct our mistakes ? Te err is human, and very often without realsing, we commit an error or break a rule. Inofrmation of such sort should be given by mylot admin and then delete our account with a notice to us.
@sanuanu (11235)
• India
12 May 09
One way or another mylot should inform its users that their posts got deleted and one mylot staff has also said that it will be done in near future but it has been 2 years but his near future hasn't come.
Now, the Admin says that they have their guidelines of dos and don'ts. Users better read them before posting anything, in this way they could avoid deletion of posts
@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
11 May 09
I have been here for four years, although I changed my name a few times, and I can honestly say that mylot never deleted anything of mine that I was unable to figure out WHY it was deleted. Either I posted in a bad discussion (and knew it would get deleted but wanted to have my say anyway) or something I wrote in a fit of temper violated the TOS but I never found myself unable to figure out why it was removed.
They DO warn you, they tell you to read the guidelines when you sign up, THAT is your warning! You are SUPPOSED to read it and learn it and check back once in a while to see if there have been any changes that could affect you and also to refresh yourself on the rules here. If mylot had to send a pm to every person who had a post deleted, they would not have any time at all to maintain a proper site. We are all supposed to be grown ups here, part of being a grown up is taking responsibility for your own actions and learning what the rules are that you need to adhere to.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
23 May 09
'We are all supposed to be grown ups here, part of being a grown up is taking responsibility for your own actions and learning what the rules are that you need to adhere to.'
I love that!
It says it ALL!
@John4Christ (1597)
• India
11 May 09
Well luckily i have not had any infractions so far.......but i feel pity for those who had thier $2 and $7 missing.......i agree that it would certainly be a huge task to inform all the mylotters about this as we can see the population is just exploding here and has problems with its servers as well......
But i feel when they are doing such major infractions like $2 or $7 they should inform why they are gone and what mistakes they had done.....because there might be people who might have earned this amount purely through discussions,response,comments,etc and we all how what huge task it can be to get those Dollars in.......so i feel major infractions should definitely be informed to the concerned members.......what do you feel about this ??????
@creationsbyrobin (3071)
• United States
12 May 09
Thank you...I agree! I don't post links in my threads and try to steer clear of threads where links that are against the TOS have already been posted. Having almost $2.50 removed from my account, without an explanation as to why, seems wrong.
Yet I do understand how big an undertaking it would be to contact everyone... but on the other hand to lose $2.43 off earnings meant an awful lot of threads that I posted in have been removed...and I mostly post in the crafts and health and to have that many posts removed seems like quite a bit.
I would like to know how I lost that many credited posts , yet it didn't affect my number (it's still over 1500, just as it was before my earnings were removed)
@wantsomeliil (8)
• Slovak Republic
12 May 09
i dont know you must ask the creator or the one that is in charge for the website
@sonusd (1547)
• India
11 May 09
you are right that mylot should inform the particular member that they have deduct some cents from their main account with the reason and what the amount they have deduct because atleast we will get to know that for what reason the post has been deleted so further neither we will participate in that type of message nor we will post that type of message
@bamrahkirti (1821)
• India
11 May 09
Ya balance of my account was deducted by 8 cents and i am quite unaware why it had happened.May be because of deletion of some posts.I think you are right .They should inform us as why our earnings have been deducted.It will help us to post qualitatively.
@jayrene (2708)
• Philippines
11 May 09
i have never come across that discussion yet...
for me i never really know if my earnings have been deducted or not... lol... because i know i've been posting responses to discussions that are against the TOS. it doesnt really bother me at all... we should know the rules here, should mylot tell us why our earnings are deducted and where from, i think we would look like little children with that, being told again why, because everyday or everytime we log in here, the TOS is always there for us to read, the rules are simple and if we dont follow it, we suffer consequences... and before we signed-up we were asked to read the TOS first. so i think, in my opinion mylot dont need to tell us about how much and what the deductions were.
just my two cents.