Do you think this recession will change the spending habits of people?
By scheng1
@scheng1 (24649)
Singapore
May 13, 2009 8:20am CST
Those generation surviving the Great Depression and World War II are very prudent in personal finance management. They will not overspend and they will save every penny that they make.
Our generation is more likely to overspend, and to charge excessively to credit cards.
Do you think this recession will make people change their spending habits for good? Do you think people will learn to save money after going through the current crisis?
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21 responses
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
13 May 09
I certainly hope it will change spending habits! My country is in this mess mainly because people depend on credit for nearly everything and won't save for something they want. Most of the country is in debt and the average household owes about $7,000 to credit cards! If you ran a household budget like our country is run, you'd be bankrupt and in jail for debt evasion.
If we can get back to real time spending, it'll be tough on the economy for a short while but will make us economically healthy in the long run. We also put too much importance on having more material goods than our neighbors. This is very unhealthy economically and spiritually and teaches our children wrong values.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
14 May 09
You elders are right, Scheng! Working so hard for material goods will put you in an early grave. We have a saying, "You can't take it with you!" People put too much importance on material things. What really matters is how many people will miss you when you leave this world. That's all that counts, how many lives you impact.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
14 May 09
Hi Dragon, agree that working too hard for material goods is not worthwhile, especially when health suffers.
Some businessmen do need the prestige of the 5C, to impress their clients, and to entertain their clients, but for most working adults, club membership is a luxury, especially in Singapore, where land is scarce.
@ruworth (147)
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13 May 09
Hi
You have made a very good point here.
This recession has already made me watch what im spending my money on as i want the most from my monthly wage.
I do like to treat myself tho on things that have no relevance like mobile phones, this netbook and other crap i could probably do without.
I didnt have any savings before the recession and now im saving what i can just in case we have a total meltdown and society goin backwards.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
14 May 09
Hi Ruworth, hope this saving habit can stay with you forever. Now is the time to recall all the nagging that we got from those older generation.
Last time we used to laugh at them for scrimping & savings, for saving every cardbox, saving every old newspaper, recycle dinner for lunch tomorrow. Now it doesn't seem so funny.
@deep_enjoy (237)
• India
13 May 09
Our generation is not bothered about saving... All people of 21st century is bothered about liquidity, they don't bother if they don't have any saving... because saving don't generate money but investment does. So, this recession will not change habit of spending, but overall behavior of spending will get effected. Every step will be taken carefully, by investors and also by policy makers.
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@deep_enjoy (237)
• India
15 May 09
Investments in the sense, the overall investments. Investments in business (entrepreneur), and all other possible investments. While stocks is just one source of income, stocks are turned out to be more risky these days. But from now on, we will find portfolios more hedged.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
14 May 09
Hi Deep, actually the investment habits of our generation is very risky. While investment is good, that does not mean that we can buy shares on margin. Margin call is the worst nightmare in investment.
Plus the constant charging to credit cards, and inability to pay off credit cards debt is getting a lot of people into trouble.
Now that the property price has plurged so much, those who over leveraged are in deep trouble.
Those of the Great Depression generation do invest, mainly in land and physical asset. They are the ones that buy a share of Coca Cola and never sell away.
@rakesh284 (1472)
• India
14 May 09
Yes definitely.
With this downfall all over the world every person is cautious about the amount they earn and and the amount they spend because they have to save some funds for the future as well and so they are trying to minimize their expenses and save some funds for there future.
I think everywhere same thing is going on.
So it is true that recession has changed habit of spending money.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
15 May 09
Hi Rakesh, agree that many people throughout the world are feeling the negative impact of the recession.
Recession always mean job loss and pay cuts, and how well a person adjusts will depend on the savings in the bank.
It's true that people are more prudent about spending, just hope that they will not forget the bitter lesson once the economy recovers
@sarcasms (120)
• India
13 May 09
naa i dont think so.........as soon as the recession gets over and six months after it ppl will forget wat happened as always and start spending usually and buying on credit because human nature is such that we phase out the bad things as in not learn from our mistakes we do wat we always like to do...............lol
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
14 May 09
Hi Sarcasms, agree that there is the tendency to forget the past, especially the painful lesson, and think of spending when we have money coming in.
However, that will depend on how long the recession lasts. The Great Depression lasts for a long, long time, that's why that generation never forgets. Plus the spanish flu and the 2 World Wars. That generation really been through hell!
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
15 May 09
Hi Sarcasms, this recession is longer and deeper than other recessions.
During my college days, the lecturer mentioned about the recession in 1973. Of course I did not know anything about that, probably the baby boomer generations are hard hit by that recession.
Wonder how long the economy takes to recover from this recession, and wonder the impact of borrowing money from banks.
@derlilaStern (1756)
• United States
13 May 09
I definitely think there are some people who will learn from this recession.
However, just like after the Great Depression, I think what has been learned will fade away. I think as each generation gets farther and farther removed from the financial troubles, they will remember less of the lessons we have to endure.
I also dont think that this recession will have nearly as profound of an impact on people's habits as the Great Depression did. We arent any where near what the Great Depression was like! There have been recessions similar to the one we are in now within the last 30 years. People came out of the previous recessions and reverted to what they had done previously. Now they are in the same prediciment! I think that will happen again.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
14 May 09
Hi Derlila, agree that the current recession is not as bad as Great Depression. However, due to the invention of credit cards, the impact on people lives may be greater than in Great Depression.
In those days, borrowing is for buying asset. In our days, people borrow to buy asets and for spending. The level of personal debt is worse than those generation in Great Depression. The level of savings is much worse than any other time in history.
It is still early to say when this recession ends. Hopefully the banking and finance system will make it difficult for people to charge all excess spending to credit cards.
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@derlilaStern (1756)
• United States
14 May 09
The credit cards can also be a huge asset in this recession. If you have a credit card with available credit, it could be your life saver if you lose your job! In the Great Depression, when people didnt have a job and ran out of savings, they lost everything! Now, you may be able to save yourself! So there is definitely good and bad with credit cards.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
14 May 09
Hi Derlila, agree that credit cards have its advantages. Of course, the best is to have savings to meet daily expenses. The next best is to have credit cards with available credits.
However, using the credit cards without means of repayment is only a short term relief. And only works when a person can get a job fast, to earn money to repay the credit card debt. Else the rolling balance with interests can kill!
@LittleMel (8742)
• Canada
14 May 09
I think people will learn how to manage money, not only saving it
some investments are recession proof they still yield earnings in difficult times
so now people will buy what they need and save or invest the rest of the money on what can bring money
whatever industry that is recession proof will be nice target for investment after the recession, because it promises non stop earnings no matter how low
that's the good thing that will come out of this
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
14 May 09
Hi LittleMel, I also hope that people can learn to manage money. From observing the attitude of some of my friends, either they spend money as soon as they can earn, or they save every single cent in the savings account.
Talking to them about investments are worse than talking to the wall.
Agree that there are some industries that are recession proof, the defense industry and the essential services (eg utility companies) are basically recession proof.
@23uday (2997)
• India
13 May 09
hi friends
yes i think there will be definitely a change in people spending money on purchasing things.i have noticed people,who are cutting their excess spending of money.
people have become more cautious regarding spending money more than before,they spending money on the things which are important to them rather all shopping.they have become less shopaholic.thinking of saving the money.
byeeeeee
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
14 May 09
Hi 23uday, agree that many people are cutting down on excessive spending. And many people in the supermarkets are buying only those items on sales.
Hopefully the diet of people changes as well. After all, meat is still more expensive than vegetables. Cutting down on steaks and eating more greens is healthier and cheaper.
@Yori88 (1465)
• Philippines
14 May 09
I think the recession somehow changed the spending habits of people. They will now realize more the value of money and they will only spend with the more important things. Luxury are off the list for the meantime. In my case I always feel the recession because I have a baby. And we all know that babies has lots of needs. Anyway I am still positive that commodity prices will still go down. I always believe that this recession is only temporary and will just serve as a lesson to everyone to learn how to save.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
15 May 09
Hi Yori, agree that the spending habit of many people have changed. They have no choice anyway. There are many people suffering pay cuts, and many are jobless. They have to change.
Recession is always temporary, even the Great Depression did end. Hopefully you are positively affected by the recession instead. Some people do find that the cost of livings is down, due to all the sales by the merchants.
@cannibal (650)
• India
13 May 09
I quite feel it will. Lol it'd be a blessing in disguise. In any case history repeats itself, doesn't it?
On a more serious note, my reaction could quite be a mixed bag. This is because I've witnessed equal number of people on both sides. There're a few who're still their usual self and there are many who've realized that when the going gets tough, you need to adapt!
Whatever said and done, one thing's for sure. Most companies have changed their overspending under the garb of 'cost cutting'. Here in India, I know many companies who've packed up the A.C's and coffee machines. They've also limited on the use of print-out papers. The pick n drop facility has also been made limited now.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
14 May 09
Hi Cannibal, agree that it can be a blessing in disguise. Just hope that the recession will not last too long. Not too good for the economy when people do not dare to spend a single cent.
The property price is down, and many things are selling at low prices. Those newly wed can afford to buy house. Recession is a blessing for those with cash and not debt.
Fortunately the swine flu scare sort of fade away. A pandemic at this time can kill the whole economy.
@ilawise26 (191)
• India
14 May 09
Hi scheng1 !!!
Recession has different effects on different strata of people.
For the extremely rich and the rich-its just a passing phase and hasn't made much difference in their spending habits.
For the upper middle class-its a matter of concern,but they know in some time they will surely get over it.This makes them careful in spending but after sometime they will be back to where they were.
For the middle class-IT has definitely made a difference to their pockets and hence that reflects in theor spending habits.They have become concerned about savings now.
Dangers of losing what they own is driving them to spend wisely and invest more ,save more.
For the people just above poverty line ,things have become more difficult when it comes to purchasing food for survival as inflation shot up manifold.
All in all,recession has made man conscious and aware of the fact that an economy is bound to go through equal or unequal shares of Ups and downs and hence one should be prepared for the worst.
It has become an important word now with the youngsters 'SAVE'
Because you don't know what the future holds!!!
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
14 May 09
Hi Ilawise, agree with most of your points, except the one about the rich. There were a few billionaires committed since the start of this recession. The impact on the rich is as deep as the poor.
A lot of CEOs and CFOs were terminated, forced to resign from their jobs, or resigned due to the increased stress. They are not having a good time too. When a company closed, the owner is affected as badly from the failed business.
Whatever it is, everyone learns different lessons, the rich has to learn not to over leverage, the poor has to learn to upgrade their skills, and the middle class has to learn to save money.
@tracy_d (76)
• India
13 May 09
Certainly! In fact people already have started spending wisely and making thoughful decisions in terms of their finances. My own experience! I have been a victim of recession and used to spend lke anything before. Now I always give a thought as to whether I really need the stuff I am spending on, whether its necessary to buy, and if answers to both these questions is Yes, then I also think about whether I can get the same stuff for a lower price elsewhere!
One good thing out of this recession is that people have begun valuing money.
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@nickaaay (8)
• Canada
13 May 09
I think it will change and already has changed the spending habits of the "money conscious" people. However, there are some people who don't look at prices and just buy what ever they want. These of course are the people in debt or will be soon. It is difficult to learn to save money especially if you've become accustomed to a certain lifestyle. I think people must be raised to budget and learn at a young age the true value of their money.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
14 May 09
Hi Nickaaay, agree that people have to learn the value of money, and to learn budgeting and self control.
I was puzzled when you said that some people do not look at prices. Most people do look at prices, and they are still willing to pay high prices for branded goods. Sometimes between buying a cheap pair of shoes and an expensive leather shoes, the leather shoes is the better choice, even though the price is 10 times more than the cheap pair of shoes.
Once my colleague suffered bruises from wearing a cheap office shoes. She got them for less than $10. She suffered from bruises, plus the part of the shoes disintegrated after a heavy rain.
So her $10 shoes lasted her a month, and caused her so much pain. My leather shoes of $120 lasted for 3 years, still in usable condition (even though look old), and so comfortable. I would rather buy a good pair of shoes that can last a longer time, than cheaper shoes.
@djsimonmlb (413)
• United States
15 May 09
If their spending habits do not change, they will result in foreclosures, money shortages, and worst of all the reality of being homeless or unemployed. This is probably the best time to search how to save money because if you are continuing those bad spending habits soon you won't have anything to spend.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
15 May 09
Hi Djsimonmlb, for most people, their debts incurred when the economy was booming had ballooned out of control now. They simply have no money to save! If they have any money, they should use to pay off their debts instead. Credit card debts are really bad, incurring high interest.
From the number of foreclosures, it seems that many people are completely broke.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
15 May 09
Hi Subha, actually many people had been through a few recessions, but their habits never changed. Sometimes the recession is too short to make any impact.
If the recession is just one year, and people suffer pay cuts instead of losing jobs, they are not likely to change their spending habits. At most, they spend less till their salary restored.
This recession is deeper than the other recessions, plus it spreads to too many countries. Maybe people really will learn the lesson.
@angemac23 (2003)
• Canada
14 May 09
Yes I think the recession will change the way people spend and see money. People may not save more, but they will certainly spend less!
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
15 May 09
Hi Angemac, right now many people are cautious about spending, I wonder how long this habit will last. Some people never learnt.
Right now, people spend less because they have less to spend. Those without jobs have lost their main source of income. Those still holding jobs are seeing pay cuts. Some companies in Singapore are cutting as much as 20% off basic salary, and cutting 50% off allowances.
@dlr297 (5409)
• United States
13 May 09
I think that it has already changed the spending habits of a lot of people. I know that it has us. we are watching every penny that we spend. and have cut out a lot of the extras. and we are saving more just in case we go without work again.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
14 May 09
Hi Dlr, agree that many people have changed the spending habits. Most of them changed their spending habits because they have no choice. Without a job, and maxing out the credit cards, they have to change the spending habits.
Hopefully they will learn from the bitter lesson, and learn to save money for the rest of their life.
@zedlav23 (458)
• Philippines
13 May 09
The recession actually has a good side to its ugly face. I believe most of us learned to save and to be conscious when it comes to our spendings. It taught us to be frugal and to be more diligent because in times like this, relying on only one income source will definitely be a disaster with all this instability of the economy.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
14 May 09
Hi Zedlav, agree that there is a good side to everything. For newly wed, this is the time for them to buy a house at rock bottom price.
Without this recession, the property price will continue to spiral up, soon all the houses are out of reach of commoners.
Hopefully the frugal habits will stay on, and people will think hard before spending their hard earned money.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
14 May 09
Hi yoyo, agree that many people are forced to cut down on spending because they have no money.
I read in the newspaper that the younger generation in China is spending a lot of money. Those young people spend their money, their parents money and the grandparents money. Hope they can change the spending habits. That is really very irresponsible spending.
@aikhong (661)
• Malaysia
13 May 09
Hm...this is a good topic to discuss on, thanks for sharing this out.
Ya, i'm so agree that the older generations are much more careful and good in finance management. This is true that they've went through those hard times and really felt the hardship in earning every single penny. On the other hand, youngsters today are just too good and pampered that many of them seem do not know how to appreciate the things they have and some would not even care how the money in his pocket comes. Some people are just too taking things for granted.
This recession is surely have the impact on all of us, but whether it will make those people change their spending habits will still be very depending on the awareness of themselves.
Many of us who're from just moderate families will surely be more careful on the spendings and will try to save money in this current crisis.However, for those rich guys out there, i think it's just a little impact that won't going to change their habits.
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