Is it ever ethical to have health police?
By SteveSlaton
@SteveSlaton (552)
United States
May 21, 2009 5:39pm CST
If a country is supposed to allow people to be free, is it ever ethical to have health police?
If you think so, site what the health laws are that are on the books or that you would like to see on the books.
What do you think? Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Steve
3 responses
@cobrateacher (8432)
• United States
25 May 09
Hello again!
We are entirely too policed in many ways. Still, people should be made to take care of children's health needs, no matter what, as little ones can't do this for themselves. Similarly, there should be places where people with contagious diseases can go until they're no longer a danger to others, to prevent pandemics.
Joanne
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@cobrateacher (8432)
• United States
27 May 09
Sometimes I wonder if those parents who fight so hard against vaccinations have been sold a bill of goods that sets their kids up for illness. Or do these vaccines really cause autism? It's unconscionable for anyone to fail to help and to protect kids. Truly, we MUST do something -- a lot.
@SteveSlaton (552)
• United States
26 May 09
As far as I know, every State of the Union forces parents to vaccinate their children for a growing list or the child is barred from getting a public school education.
So compulsory vaccinations are a "blackmail" health police law. Children are expelled and deprived an education if their parents do not submit.
As an immunologist and microbiologist I am clearly against the chicken pox vaccine, for instance.
Then the number one genocide germ in human history is smallpox and the public cannot get a smallpox vaccine. We're in a crazy world!
I do volunteer fund raising for our local food bank. We have over 30,000 poor getting food assistance. The majority goes to single Mom's, often children with children by my standard of 25 for adulthood, who have two or three part-time jobs, and pay 85% of their gross income for shelter. No money for food! Protein is expensive and these young womens children are malnourished. The children will not develop to their genetic potential and become nutritionally retarded, becoming slower adults than if their mothers could afford to feed them a sound diet.
On a global basis 2 billion people cycle between being malnourished to starving and I think this is, sadly, by design... We blame the innocent for getting sick and dying.
I am a pessimistic optimist. We are in trouble but their is still time and hope. We can find ways out of this mess. We must!
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
22 May 09
The 72 hour mental health hold for someone who thought to be a danger to himself and/or others is a mental health law that I support. People in crisis or those with certain mental illnesses sometimes aren't able to act rationally and so they...and society...need a cooling off period so that a psychiatric evaluation can be made and assistance given if needed.
@SteveSlaton (552)
• United States
22 May 09
Do you support the specific circumstance called Geriatric Depression proven by the patient stating that they "Want to die," usually associated with failing health?
Our existing system is geared to force prescription antidepressants onto the senior...
What do you think?
@celticrogue (450)
• United States
22 May 09
Um, I believe we already have health police. They are called Meidcare and Health Insurance Companies. They determine who and what type of medical treatments their "clients" can receive.
On the other side of the coin, determining who and what type of medical treatments that need to be 'enfored', is going to be very difficult. Those deemed incompetent to understand the consequences of their actions of refusal of medical treatment would be the ones the law should address. The test for incompetency? Mental health professionals have the means for determine whether or not some one gets committed for their own safety. There is also the legal standard of competency to stand trial. Somewhere between the two a test of competency could be formulated. (Background: I work in the medical field as a medical technologist, i.e. I work in a hospital laboratory. Laboratory professionals are tested annually to ensure we are competent to do our jobs. This is a Medicare requirement as part of CLIA-88 {CLIA = Clinical Laboratory Improvement Amendments}. I have not heard of other medical fields [nursing, radiology, etc.] having to undergo annual assessments.)
At the same time, I tremble at the fact that another of our 'freedoms' would be regulated. But, these are the signs of our times.
@SteveSlaton (552)
• United States
26 May 09
I absolutely agree that our Federal government is unconstitutionally taking people's freedoms including their freedom to make their own health decisions.
You working in an interesting profession. I seriously considered becoming a med-tech at Colorado State in the 70s where I got my micro degree. I later supervised 65 people as a toxicologist in the pharmaceutical business.
The rationale of frequent competency testing of med-techs doe not surprise me since tandem products are so prolific. the Pharmaceutical Business is a $2 trillion a year business!
Doctors and nurses have to be re-certified, I think, at least every 7 years.
Oh, I am terrified, too! Our health system has been perverted so that we blame the victims for getting sick and dying.
Come on people. Think. Their are other Health Police examples...
What do you think?
Steve
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