What on earth happened to my fellow countrymen?
By applefreak
@applefreak (3130)
Singapore
May 25, 2009 11:10pm CST
i was at dinner yesterday and the waitress asked where i was from. when i told her i am a local, she was very surprised. i tried speculating what could be the cause but couldn't fathom the reason. in the end i asked her where she thought i was from and here is her answer: 'i am not sure where you are from but i just thought you couldn't be local. you are too polite to be a local.'
i was shocked and saddened by her response. although i know my countrymen are not known to be the most polite, i am shocked that someone actually thought i am a foreigner simply because i said 'thank you' after she filled my glass.
after she told me, i observed the behaviour of the locals around me. true enough, they feel that it's their god-given right to be waited on and feel nothing towards the wait staff. no 'thank you' or 'excuse me' but just 'hey you'.
has anything like this happened to you before? how would you have reacted if someone thought you are a foreigner because of the way you behave?
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15 responses
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
26 May 09
I'm sure i would have been surprised as i think u probably were from what i read in your discussion. Good manners were something we were taught from early childhood just as i taught my sons. It is sad that people weren't taught & if they were they don't use them. Good for you!
@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
28 May 09
yes i was really surprised when she gave me this reason. thanking people for filling our glasses and clearing our plates are basic manners. i felt sad because what she said was quite true. i observed that most of my fellow countrymen do not thank the wait staff for that.
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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
31 May 09
yes i totally agree with you. guess some people just enjoy the anonymity afforded by the internet.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
28 May 09
children are not taught manners anymore so therefore they grow up to be obnoxious. i think there is a perfect example in the next response u got after mine. have a happy day.
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@stafei (98)
• China
26 May 09
why she will surprise?Where she is from.I hate the person who have localation different.The person always think he is the best person in the world and others person all are countrymen.Who are you?Are you sun?Earth is around with you?Are you God?Fuxk off!In my mind,you are just is a Shxt!All person in the world have same level.All people was borned by his mother,all are balanced.So don't submit this question,the waitress is ugly.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
28 May 09
i think u are wayout of line talking to apple like that. where did u leave your manners?????????
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@balasri (26537)
• India
10 Jan 10
The world is changing and cannot say whether it is changing for the good for sure.It is clearly evident that the fines values and the nuances of life are getting eroded and people are becoming arrogant everywhere.Yes a simple thank you is a rare commodity in the service sectors nowadays.No wonder the waitress got surprised.
It is for the parents to set an example for the kids in manners and etiquette.Well I don't know who will teach the parents in the first hand.
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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
10 Jan 10
it's really sad how the drive for 'excellence' has caused us to lose sight of everything else. the focus on effectiveness and efficiency has reduced us to mere robots. we do thing without thinking what impact it'll have on the people around us.
as for parents teaching their children, it's a big topic in itself. i shudder to think about how our future will be like when i look at the parents nowadays.
@squaretile (3778)
• Singapore
11 Dec 09
that's interesting and you're right, it's a sad reflection of our countrymen.
but I must admit that I'm not always sincerely polite to wait staff. some of them don't even respond when you say thank you. they just look away.
I find that when people dine at fine restaurants they are nicer to the wait staff because they feel that they are being watched?
I guess I would have said thank you, and agreed that yah, it's true huh, it's so sad that singaporeans are not polite cos they are too busy.
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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
4 Jan 10
been too addicted to fb to even check my email. just saw the notification and rushed here to respond.
hmm, doesn't that make us one of them? i find that being rude to rude people just lower ourself to their level. if we 'despise' their action, why are we doing the same thing?
i say thank you to people no matter how they behave. if they choose to be rude, it's their choice. i will still be polite because that's who i am. i know it's hard to be polite to rude people, especially if they did something that really makes us angry or upset.
@frankiecesca (2489)
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3 Jun 09
I think I would be like you and be saddened that people in my home country had become so rude that only polite people wre assumed to be foreigners! x
@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
4 Jun 09
yes it's really quite saddening. it seems that no one is interested in being nice to each other anymore. all of us are more interested in getting ahead in the rat race.
@sweetie1026 (1718)
• Philippines
26 May 09
I do not know how i would have reacted if i were in your place but i think you should take it as a compliment. Maybe, the waitress has had so many bad experiences with the locals that when you showed appreciation for her service she got so excited and mistook you for a foreigner.
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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
28 May 09
well i guess i should take it as a compliment. being called polite isn't exactly a criticism on my behaviour.
i just feel sad that her experiences with my countrymen has been so bad. looking at her, i'd say she has been working here for quite some time. to have her say that means she had encountered enough rude people to form such a conclusion.
@sweetie1026 (1718)
• Philippines
29 May 09
Well, thank you for the best response but i think you should realy take that as a compliment and you should not be so sad about your country men's attitude. Even here in my country there are some people who act like that and maybe even anywhere in the world.
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@rosdimy (3926)
• Malaysia
26 May 09
I have never been mistaken as a foreigner in my own country except for once in 2001. Being mistaken as a person broughr up in another part of the country occured to me several times in the past.
Back to 2002. Whenever I rode a motorcycle I would dress up with proper clothing to protect myself from the weather and dust. This included wearing a balaclava (ski mask). In the 1990's there was no problem being dressed like that, and in fact whenever there was a road block I was almost always waved through.
Foreigners particularly from one country started coming into the country in big numbers. In their desire to become rich they resorted to crime and many of them wore ski masks. I was on my way to work at a factory, riding below the speed limit. Suddenly a patrol car chsed me and cut me off. Before I could take off my helmet one of the officers started asking me in the other country's dialect. I was tempted to reply in the same dialect but I thought better of it. Even after showing my Natonal Identity Card and Driving Licence his face still showed some disbelief. I could understand it because thousands of these foreigners use fake Makaysian NIC. Maybe because I answered politely I was allowed to continue my journey.
all the best,
rosdimy
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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
28 May 09
hi there neighbour, i am from singapore. good for you to wear protective gears when riding. this is so important but so many people just ignore this good sense.
thank goodness i have not experienced what you went through. it must be irritating and yet funny to be treated this way. i don't know how i would react if i were in your position.
@tamarafireheart (15384)
•
26 May 09
Hi applefreak,
I don't understand today's attitude of people who are rude, it cost nothing to be polite as this lady is doing a job, she is not a servent, she is getting paid, I think people should have more manners, I used to lin in London England and people are quite rude there and when I moved south, I found [people are polite and nice to each other which shocked me as I was never rude as my mother always thought us good manners it was refreshing to meet people who have good manners, now when I do visit London, I am most appalled by their behaviour, it has got worse as it multi culture and [people are rude and arrgont.
Tamara
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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
28 May 09
hi tamara, i too cannot understand the attitude of people. it's like they are born to be waited upon. the worst ones even shouted at the wait staff for nothing more than a late dish. i sure hope more can be done to address this trend. it seems people are so caught up in the rat race to remember how to be nice.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
26 May 09
Hey applefreak! First, I love your beautiful kitty! What an
adorable face and stunning green eyes! I think that it is
very sad that a waitress where you live would mistake you
for a foreigner because you were polite! That really doesn't
say much for the people where you live! Are they really all
that rude? I mean I live in NYS and there are all different
types of peope here with all different personalities which
is to be expected! There are some very nice and friendly
and polite people and then there are some nasty rude miserable
people! But, I would assume that this is just the way it is
wherever you live? So what is different about where you live
that would make this waitress say that to you?
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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
28 May 09
let me say thank you on behalf of kitty. yes her name is kitty!
it's really a sad state of affair in my country. we are having campaigns to get people to treat each other nicer. most people you meet on the street are rude and nasty. everyday i'll come across something that riles me. from refusal to queue to not giving way even to emergency vehicles. i understand that there are nasty people all over, but i guess the concentration is simply higher in my country.
@srganesh (6340)
• India
26 May 09
Yes!We are judged by our actions.I have been mistaken for a bank officer or a person working in a high post often.It is from the dressing sense and my behaviour in public.Later,when they learn that I am a small business man,they accept it half minded only.
I repeat-our gestures,body language,politeness,the tone of our speech,all counts on judging.Cheers!
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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
28 May 09
i couldn't agree with you more. she actually said it's something about my mannerism that caused her to think i am not a local. it's pretty strange how quickly we form an opinion about another person based on a short encounter.
the only thing i can say about you is you must hold yourself pretty well. to have people think so highly of you. congratulations!
@stanlee81 (381)
• China
26 May 09
I know,you from sigapore.Maybe you have some special apperance or quality a little different from the ordinary locals.I seldom came across this before,but several times.Actually,the could differentiate the locals or not from their accent,in most of the cases.Anyway,the waiter will be familliar with you and know you'r their local.Have a nice day!
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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
28 May 09
yes yes i'm from singapore. maybe i do look a little different because when i go to certain countries, the locals there mistake me for their fellow countryman. but when i ask fellow singaporeans, they say i look every bit the singaporean. as for my accent, i try to pronounce my words correctly. funny how i keep getting corrected when i say salmon.
@aikhong (661)
• Malaysia
26 May 09
I can understand somehow the waiter's feeling, because i've been a waiter too. I feel happy when my customers say thank you or they're polite with me, and i'll feel a bit upset or annoyed if i meet customers who're rude and having bad characteristics. So, i believe that reaction of the waiter was just probably most of the customer she served are not polite.
However, this kind of situation has never happened on me before. There's only one case similar, which is once i went to buy something at a stall. The stall owner thought i were a Japanese (i'm chinese instead) because of my look and the way i speak to him. I think these kind of situation are just pretty common in our daily life. So, just take it easy,haha. Have a nice day.
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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
28 May 09
yes i have been a waitress when i was much younger. i guess this is why i always thank the wait staff for filling my glass or clearing my plates.
i guess the mistaken identity part has happened to me frequently enough so i wasn't really surprised. what surprised me was the reason that she mistook me for a foreigner.
@Dekorume (6)
• United States
26 May 09
I've been a victim of the, "You're not from around here" a time or two. I don't think it had anything to do with the locale, but with the fact that in today's society politeness and decorum are a thing of the past. Not enough of us around that still remember the golden rule, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." Everyone should be treated with kindness and respect that we expect ourselves to be treated with. Applefreak, take the waitress' question and wear it proudly as a badge of honor. My hat is off to you.
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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
28 May 09
that is my motto in life! everytime i do something, i think of how the other party might feel. if i don't want anyone doing it to me, i wouldn't do it.
thanks for your kind compliments
@heather177 (81)
• United States
26 May 09
I live in Ohio but I am from Harlen Kentucky. People wonder where im from when I eat some of my food. Like my biscuits and gravy. I mix them. Or how my standards are so high here for food. Everything in kentucky is homemade and delicious. Here in Ohio its fast food or boxed food. So people are always wondering where im from.
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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
28 May 09
LOL that's a really interesting reason for people to wonder where you are from. i guess food is really important to some of us. i wouldn't be able to survive on fast food or boxed food too. give me a good home cooked meal anytime!
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
26 May 09
Mmm....you're not the only one who gets asked "Where are you from?"---I was born in California, but my mother came back to home base with me when I was just a baby after my parents got divorced...and home base meant the New York City area...so I've lived here in NYC just about all my life. People always ask me if I'm from Arizona, or New Mexico...why? I AM part Native American and wear quite a bit of Native American jewelry, but for some reason people think only Arizonians or New Mexicans wear Native jewelry--I've often been told too, that I don't have a "New York accent"---LOL
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@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
28 May 09
that's very interesting. to think someone of a particular descent simply because of the jewelry worn. as for the accent, i've gotten that pretty much too. i've met people who insist that i must have studied overseas. i've also met migrant workers who believe i'm from their home country.