What is the difference between the Pro-Life movement and Al Qaeda?
@thegreatdebater (7316)
United States
May 31, 2009 10:37pm CST
If you look at the history of both of these groups you will see the simularities, but you notice one large difference: The way they are treated. Could you image if the pro life movement was made up of muslims, and they were killing people, and bombing buildings? The American people would never put up with this, and the entire Pro-Life movement would be at Gitmo.
4 responses
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
1 Jun 09
The minority does not represent the majority. Just because a few wackos decide to get violent does not mean the whole pro-life movement is the same way, nor does it in any way devalue the merits of the pro-life movement. Likening a harmless political viewpoint to terrorism is rather childish, don't you think?
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
1 Jun 09
Latrivia, there are many none violent muslims, but after 9/11 we all looked at muslims like they were terrorist (wheather you want to admit it or not). Just because there are none violent members of a group does that mean that we should treat them as a none violent group? There are none violent members of Al Qeada, does that mean that we should treat them like a none violent group? Face it, if these were muslims doing this the country would want to know why the FBI didn't do anything to stop this action, and what they were going to do to stop it from happening again.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
2 Jun 09
I am not part of this "we all" group. I have never blamed the entire Muslim community for terrorist attacks (even after the attacks). When some were eying Muslims with suspicion, I was hanging my head in shame for the paranoia and stupidity of my fellow Americans who did this.
Al Queda is a fundamentalist group within a philosophical group that advocates violence. Even those who have not yet participated in violent attacks support the attacks. It's not comparable. You are condemning an entire view point for the misdeeds of a select few, which is deplorable, in my opinion. There are pro-lifers that would never dream of harming others for their differing opinions, and are disgusted with the terrorist attempts of pro-lifer minorities. This is why they shouldn't be blamed for the misdeeds of some of their peers - the pro-life movement itself not about using violence to achieve it's goals.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
2 Jun 09
Latrivia, I understand that YOU didn't act this way, but the majority of Amreicans did.
Al Queda is a fundamentalist group within a philosophical group that advocates violence. Even those who have not yet participated in violent attacks support the attacks. It's not comparable.
LMAO, and you are saying that the pro-life movement isn't a philosophical group that advocates violence? This is a group that has supported members that have committed terrorist acts on this country, and have killed American citizens. By the way, last night on Bill O'Reilly he attacked Tiller as if he was the person who committed a crime. Thus, showing his support for the man that killed him. Sounds pretty comparable to me.
You are condemning an entire view point for the misdeeds of a select few, which is deplorable, in my opinion. There are pro-lifers that would never dream of harming others for their differing opinions, and are disgusted with the terrorist attempts of pro-lifer minorities. This is why they shouldn't be blamed for the misdeeds of some of their peers - the pro-life movement itself not about using violence to achieve it's goals.
I was listening to Frank Shaeffer (who is one of the fathers of the pro life movement) today on potus, and he said that violence brings media attention. Acts like these only help the movement by allowing those that have alternative views to express them. The said that the vast majority of those in the pro life movement are none violent, but it is the radicals that bring about change. And, violence is their most important assest they have. This is a man that created the pro life movement, and knows it better than anyone. I guess he must be wrong.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
1 Jun 09
oh I don't know for sure, but let me take a stab at it....hmmm
one has suicie bombers, flies planes in to buildings, sets road side bombs, takes entiore towns and kills half the population to get the other half to comply with strict law, blows up our navy ships and embasies, tries to aquire nuclear weapons and beheads captives....
the other.... protests, says nasty things sometimes, atempts to convince people to adopt and care for or raise children....once in a great while a radical fringe element of it blows up a clinic or shoots a doctor.
*shrug*
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
2 Jun 09
X, if this was a group of muslims that were going around American spreading a radical religious view, threatening to kill people, and then kill them, how do you think the American people would react? X, I know you, and I know that you can lie to me all you want, but you know as well as I do that this group would have men in black suits all over them in seconds. But, this is a Christian group that is doing this, and our government allowed groups like this to spew hate until one group blew up a building in Oklahoma City. When you have groups killing Americans they should all be treated the same, why should we discriminate because of religion?
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
3 Jun 09
Debater, whats with you, you have really gone off the edge lately. And be very carefull my friend, I do not take to being called a liar well, if you want to disagrea with me or tell me you think I am incorrect then fine, as long as you back it up, but stepping over the line and out right calling me a liar is a whole other issue.
@Smith2028 (797)
• United States
1 Jun 09
The biggest difference between these two is their fundamental differences.... for example. One group holds rallies and protests, the other kills people. One group is a movement made up of many races, religions and sexes. The other is a male dominated movement that kills you if you aren't their religion. One group affords the other the right to have their voice heard. The other kills you if you disagree.
If you haven't guessed, the first in each of these is Pro life the second is Al Qaeda. To compare these two groups is asinine. There are always going to be those independents that are going to do stupid things, but we are above calling the isolated incidents the norm for the group as a whole.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
2 Jun 09
Smith, both groups have killed Americans, I hate to tell you this, but it is a FACT. You are correct that Al Qaeda is mostly male, and opposes most other religions, but they both spew an extremist agenda, and don't mind using violence to get their point across (see the headlines from yesterday). I was listening to Mr. Randell Terry today, and he sure didn't allow many opposing views. I have listened to the hatrid many times, and when I would debate them, they would just walk away, so I disagree with your statement that pro life groups allow opposing views to be aired.
Scott Roeder disagreed with George Tiller, and we all know how that ended up Smith, so your statement is losing credibility. If you look at the actions of both of these groups you will see simularities (well, I doubt you will, but any rational individual would), you can try to insult me all you want, but FACT are FACTS. What do you consider an isolated incident? The first World Trade Center bombing or 9/11? These were isolated incidents weren't they?
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
1 Jun 09
LMAO!
What are you talking about?
In America, by and large, Muslims associated with Al-Qaeda are "treated" better in terms of press, comforts once arrested, rights (as in, people willing to fight for them: ACLU and the rest of the bleeding hearts), etc.
I do admit that the pro-life crowd can be intense, and they're certainly no fan of mine since I'm pro-choice, but in America's predominantly liberal court of public opinion, Al-Qaeda is simply misundertood and the pro-lifers are the real terrorists.
Who you fooling? lol
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
1 Jun 09
Maters, this a group that has bomb US buildings, it has threatened to kill US citizens, and it has killed Americans. Pardon me if I look at the simularities of the two groups and see them as the same.