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Mylotters in China, we will miss you!
@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
United States
June 2, 2009 10:54am CST
As the 20th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre (which Harold Koh approved of and thought didn't go far enough, by the way) draws near, China has cracked down on internet access for its people to even more websites than usual (it's no secret that the communist Chinese already government censors what it allows its people to access, such as google search results among other things) such as witter and flickr. Since mylot allows users to discuss pretty much anything, I imagine that our wonderful mylot friends in China may be blocked form coming here as well. I have had the great pleasure of getting to know lots of terrific Chinese people here at mylot, and I will miss them. I hope they will be allowed to rejoin us soon.
Here's the story:http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,524339,00.html
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China Blocks Twitter, Flickr, Others as Tiananmen Anniversary Looms
[/b]Tuesday, June 02, 2009 Beijing turned up the volume on the "Great Firewall of China" Tuesday, blocking nearly a dozen Western Web sites and search engines.
Thursday is the 20th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre, and as a foretaste, Chinese users were denied access to Blogger, Flickr, Twitter, Livejournal, Tumblr, the Huffington Post and Microsoft's Live.com, Hotmail, its MSN Space blog tool and its new search engine Bing, according to various reports."Looks like Twitter has been GFWed in China," tweeted Mimi Xu, or @MissXu, a Hong Kong-based tech entrepreneur who noticed she wasn't getting responses from mainland friends, using the common Twitter acronym for "Great Firewall of China."The block of YouTube, which began in March after Tibetan activists posted clips, according to London's Guardian newspaper, continued."The 3 web services I cant live without — Twitter, Flickr, YouTube — are all blocked in China," tweeted Stephen Lin, a Chinese blogger who tweets as @flypig.
Some third-party Twitter desktop clients were working, letting users get around the block, but others were down."This is so frustrating. Now I feel China is exactly the same as Iran," wrote one financial professional in Shanghai, according to Reuters.
The Times of London noted that Twitter has let Chinese users write terms that are blocked on Web sites, such as "6/4" for the date of the Tiananmen massacre or "Charter 08" for a well-known pro-democracy dissident manifesto."Twitter is a new thing in China. The censors need time to figure out what it is," blogger Michael Anti told another Chinese blog last week, according to the Times. "So enjoy the last happy days of twittering before the fate of YouTube descends on it one day.""I want to point out that the Chinese Twitterland is funnier than the English one, for a Chinese tweet can have three times the volume of an English tweet, thanks to the high information intensity of the Chinese language," he added.
Twitter limits users to 140 characters per "tweet," but in Chinese one or two characters can make up an entire word.
Two former targets of Chinese ire — Google and Wikipedia — were apparently not affected. Nor were Facebook or MySpace."Since Bing.com is blocked in China while Google.com is not, is it implying that Google is doing better Gov Relations than MS?" wondered Lin.
Britain's Daily Telegraph noted that "old" media was also being subjected to Tiananmen-related measures.BBC World viewers in China saw TV screens go black when reports on the anniversary were aired, and pages were cut out of the Economist magazine and Financial Times and South China Morning Post newspapers.The BBC reported that prominent dissident Wu Gaoxing, a leader of the 1989 democracy movement, was arrested over the weekend and was still being held.China has said that 241 people were killed in the Tiananmen Square crackdown. Unofficial estimates of deaths range from 400 to 5,000.
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@KrazyKlingon (5005)
• United States
3 Jun 09
Unless it depends on the various provinces, I don't think that myLot will be one of those that the communist government will cut. At least, they have not done so yet.
Just last night, a mylotter on my friends list who is also in that area where my father was born is still on MyLot. I sure hope it stays that way so I can determine on whether or not this person is a distant relative of mine or something like that.
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@KrazyKlingon (5005)
• United States
3 Jun 09
One advantage is - China is one heck of a piece of land. I hope that will be an advantage.
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@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
3 Jun 09
I hope mylot doesn't get blocked in China, a lot of nice people come here from there.
I know what you mean about the "are we related?" thing, my mom is from a small country (Grenada) and I've discovered that I'm related in one way or another to pretty much EVERYBODY on that island.
@KrazyKlingon (5005)
• United States
4 Jun 09
I just found out that youtube is blocked in China as well.
See this discussion:
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2028648.aspx
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@BlueGoblin (1829)
• United States
2 Jun 09
China doesn't mess around. I actually support China and their right to ban American media. The whole world would be better off banning American media and our capitalist culture.
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@coolcoder (2018)
• United States
2 Jun 09
I'm sure there are many people in the Chinese government who would love to have you work for them. I don't know if you're an American or not, but if so, someone needs to give you a plane ticket over there. You seem to love Communism so much--how about trying it for a while instead of pulling an Obama and apologizing for how mean and greedy and awful the United States has been to the rest of the world?
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@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
2 Jun 09
With 0bama in office, America and her capitalism is not likely to last much longer anyway and most of our media is already in the tank for the leper messiah.
@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
5 Jun 09
This could very well be a preview of things to come for Americans. Between China owning nearly all of our debt, the newly appointed "cyber czar" and the "cyber security bill" which will give the president full authority over internet access in the US, are we really that far behind from becoming as the Chinese citizens - forbidden form any knowledge that makes the government look bad?
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
6 Jun 09
Oh, this is so bad Marianne...we have some of the loveliest people here from China and I love interacting with them.
I really dont understand how these repressive regimens continue inspite of so much protest from their own people. Holding on to power is like an addiction and what happened in Tianenmen Square can be said to be one of the most brutal suppression of people's freedom in recent times. I hope the ban is lifted soon and we have our Chinese friends back...we can hear from them then the exact situation there.
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@KrazyKlingon (5005)
• United States
6 Jun 09
I believe that MyLotters in The Main Land have access to MyLot, but not to many other sites. According to one resident in China ...
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2028648.aspx
Don't you love the "honor" of the Chinese Communist party?
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@Mikaela_taz25 (1842)
• Philippines
5 Jun 09
That is so unfair, this only proves that Chinese people were never free from the their Government even though they claim to be Capitalist in their Circle now. I think the Citizens have the right for that information and should be part of their History. is it really that awful that they have to block some sites. you know, it's like the video i watch about an experiment by the Japanese Soldiers in China before the end of the war. they were doing some kind of Germ warfare to experiment on the chinese peope for results. then, later the government denied of it's existence and worst, most of their schools didn't consider studying history and that specific even because it is considered "taboo", they are being led to believe that Japanese are liberators and not Invaders. "it's in youtube - Japan's Darkest Secret. So, not fair.
@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
5 Jun 09
They say "history is written by the winners", meaning that whoever is in charge of things will do their best to allow folks to only learn "their" version of things. It happens all over the world and even here in the US to some extent, textbooks are biased to suit the agenda of whoever is in power because if people knew the full truth, they will not follow along blindly. This is why islamic theocracies teach that the holocaust ever happened and attempt to dehumanize perceptions of anyone who is not as they are.
@KrazyKlingon (5005)
• United States
11 Jun 09
That is good to know. Some sites did get blocked. See:
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/2028648.aspx
If you go to response #14, someone from the same area my father was born in pretty much said it. I wonder if you can now visit youtube & the other sites that were blocked now.
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@Ima_C_Suvaya (431)
• United States
3 Jun 09
In a couple of years you will be able to rerun this story, just substitute 'China' with 'USA' and 'Tiananmen Square' with 'Tea Party'.
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@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
3 Jun 09
I'll probably be locked in a re-education facility by then. See ya there.
@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
2 Jun 09
I hope they don't block mylot in China, there are a lot of really nice people here from there!
I think you're right, China will be hard pressed to block ALL of those sites, unless they cut off communication on the web to the outside from the inside of China completely.