I guess the Department of Homeland Security was right.

X, how many doctors have been killed by pro lifers? How many building have been fire bombed? This isn't one act, this is a pattern of violence that would not be tolerated if it was done by any other group of Americans. Could you imagine if this was a group of muslims doing this? You know as well as I do that this group would be destroyed in less than a week. You can call my post what you will X, but if you can get beyond your religious bias, you will see the facts. You actually think that the government killed Tiller, and made Roeder the fall guy? Our government can do alot of bad things (the last eight year are a perfect example of how bad our government could be), but I don't think that they would do this. What do they have to gain? Actions like this alone helps the group under attack, this way they can blame the powerful government, and they will increase their donations. You are alittle far off on that one, but I do agree that it is very interesting how our government can be so right about something (Yet, do nothing to stop it).

X, how many doctors have been killed by pro lifers? answer: 9 How many building have been fire bombed? answer: 14 "This isn't one act, this is a pattern of violence that would not be tolerated if it was done by any other group of Americans." and this isn't tollerated by any but the most disgustingly extreme...hardly the vast majority of people's views "You can call my post what you will X, but if you can get beyond your religious bias, you will see the facts. " ROFLMAO!!! do you even KNOW what my religious views are? I'll almost guaranty you don't. (pssst, mine was among the second most persecuted religion in history ) and I'm not a devout follower of religion anyway "You actually think that the government killed Tiller, and made Roeder the fall guy?" No, I do not. what i believe is that it will be used as propaganda by the department of homeland security and the media, marqu my words. "Our government can do alot of bad things (the last eight year are a perfect example of how bad our government could be)" You won't get an argument out of me on that, but wait for the next 4 or 8 years, you aint seen nothin yet "but I don't think that they would do this." again, I don't either, it just doesn't seem practical. But again, good propaganda oportunity, and our government is full of oportunists "What do they have to gain?" support for more laws, restrictions and shaving of freedoms..in short, power. "Actions like this alone helps the group under attack, this way they can blame the powerful government, and they will increase their donations." you catch on quickly "You are alittle far off on that one, but I do agree that it is very interesting how our government can be so right about something (Yet, do nothing to stop it)". It isn't entirely their interests to always do something about "it"

Okay, I take it back. I did some digging, they did arrest somebody. Still, there are fanatics everywhere and those anti-abortion activists have been on the watch lists for much longer than the new administration has even been a player in the political arena. So are pro-choice extreme activists. What the new DHS list did is to put pretty much anybody under suspicion. The list is long enough and could be used as an excuse to put surveillance, wire taps etc on pretty much anybody and everybody. The criteria list doesn't say is this AND this AND this, but this OR this OR this. Some do fit for me, some don't. Are you absolutely sure not one fits for you? That's what the outrage is about. It essentially labels average Joe citizen a terrorist.

Oh, you also claim the DHS warned of an attack from that particular group. That would be an easy assessment to make and they didn't even need the new criteria for that. That group is so extreme, it was only a matter of time. But I guess now we have to fear an attack from all those people who voted for a third party, even better those returning veterans, lol. I'm sure there are some who have been part of a militia before they went to war. There could surely be one among the vets to do something bad. I guess it's okay then to demonize half of America;) ROFL.

There have been many attacks on Military Recruiting Centers. There was one in Little Rock just the other day. If you are going to lump all Conservatives together with the monster who shot Tiller, then you have to lump all Liberals together with the one who shot the soldiers in Little Rock. Of course, if you grow a brain and refuse to lump people together like that, then you can recognize that their are extremist monsters in all groups of people... but that doesn't make all groups of people extremist monsters.

If I followed your logic, I would think that everyone in Toledo was like Klinger on MASH.

Ted, I don't support the war in Iraq at all, but I don't think that killing anyone is ever justified. With that being said; How many anti-Iraq war protesters have blown up buildings? How many have killed people in the military? According to most reports about the man, we are not sure why he did this (unlike Mr. Roeder, who has a history of going after Mr. Tiller), but they have said it could be his hatrid of the war, and RELIGIOUS reasons. You can call me all of the names you want Ted, it doesn't make your argument any more believable. If you look at the facts of the pro life movement, you will see that they have killed more Americans then many organizations we consider terrorist organizations. This is just another example of the hyprocracy of the pro life movement.

Taskr, below is the link to an article about the DHS assessment. They warned the American people that their may be an act by a group that killed a doctor on Sunday. Republicans were up in arms about this assessment, but it turned out to be 100% correct. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/14/federal-agency-warns-of-radicals-on-right/

A group didn't kill him debater. One sick murderer killed him. It's typical for liberals like you to try and pin this on the pro-life groups. If you actually paid attention to the facts once in a while you'd see that every major pro-life group has loudly condemned these actions. Most anti-abortion leaders quickly condemned Tiller's killing and disavowed Roeder. The National Right to Life Committee, the largest anti-abortion organization in the United States, said it "unequivocally condemns" violence. And Wichita-based Operation Rescue said Roeder never was "a member, contributor, or volunteer." "Operation Rescue has diligently and successfully worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see to it that abortionists around the nation are brought to justice. Without due process, there can be no justice," it said. http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/02/kansas.doctor.killed/

Was the DHS created by a bunch of arrogant idiots? Many of the people that were there under Bush are still there under Obama. This a man who was part of a right wing movement that has bombed building, and killed Americans to move their religious beliefs forward. If this group was made up of muslims we would call them terrorist. Sounds like a terrorist attack to me.

Where exactly did I say it was okay to kill someone born or unborn?

I would bet the amount of people killed by left wing animal rights activist is much higher than those killed by nuts like the one that killed Tiller.

Irish, everyone in the world is going to die, so should it be ok to kill anyone you want? Just because someone has tried to kill him doesn't mean that it was ok for someone else to finish the job. As you said, murder is murder, but I find it ironic that a group that is called PRO LIFE has killed 9 people, and tried to kill many more. Many be they should change their name to PRO-UNBORN LIFE, or PRO LIFE (UNLESS YOU ARE A DOCTOR THAT PERFORMS ABORTIONS). Just a thought.

Gew, the pro life movement has killed 9 doctors, and have firebombed 14 buildings, apparently they are also pro-terrorism. The man that killed Mr. Tiller has stalked him for years now, and has protested his clinc many times. This is not surprising coming from the pro life movement that considers killing to be ok as long as the life form is out of the womens body. This man may have been part of a Muslim group that is targeting Americans, and if he is then YES we need to figure out who is in this group and investigate their intentions (just as we should any group that wants to kill Americans, including political, and religious groups).

So why should people who are more pro-choice than you as labeled as terrorist? Anytime you want to answer a question fell free too! Muslims have kill more Americans than Pro-lifers so what is your point? Once again fell free to answer my questions, I know you can.

"the pro life movement has killed 9 doctors, and have firebombed 14 buildings" your generalizing. It wasn't the "pro life movement", it was a few nuts who sympathized with the pro life movement, not represented it.