Good News: For Now At Least
By pyewacket
@pyewacket (43903)
United States
June 4, 2009 12:38am CST
First I want to thank everyone who gave their input on how one can legally deal with a stalker as I've had one now for three years ever since I joined here. A lot of you gave great advice and I still plan to pursue this. Since this can be considered an "international" event, the idea of reporting my stalker to local police wouldn't really help, but I do plan to contact some of those cyberstalking websites for advice as no doubt he'll bother me again.
The good news is that for now, my stalker is gone, zapped, history, either he closed his account himself or was banned (he did get a lot of people reporting him as harassing me) as now one just gets that blank page.
Now for some of the evidences I have: One, I don't have all his obnoxious comments to me when he was here under his numerous usernames (he's had six identities) as many were deleted when my friends and I reported them for being obnoxious, flaming, harassing and insulting to me, however, I did copy/paste a number of them and stored them in my emails...I'm now backtracking and going to make full documentations of them that also provide dates of such comments to me, show his user names, etc. Two, I also have screenshots of his last appearance and profile page. Three, I DO have his IP address thanks to a friend of mine and it does show his country of origin.
Once I get advice from one of those cyberstalker sites on what to do next I'll be able to present my "evidence" to them should they ask for it.
So many of you voiced your concern that I may have been having stress or having sleepless nights due to this stalker..NOPE... I sleep fine...LOL...If anything he just pisses me off and would like to squash him like a bug and if there's some legal means to do so will. No doubt he'll show up again...as he does seem to have a "infatuation" with me in a rather obsessive way---gee, maybe I have a boyfriend...uh....excuse me....
{Pyewacket runs to the bathroom to puke}
Have any of you had a stalker? Someone that follows you around in an obsessive sort of way?
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34 responses
@Loverbear (4918)
• United States
4 Jun 09
I had a stalker a short while ago. It was terrifing!!! I found out that he had just been released from prison for felony child molestation. He tried to convience me that he didn't do it, that his ex wife was out to get him...Sorry, that didn't compute for several reasons. First, I know full well that every guy in the joint is innocent. Second the state of California wouldn't send someone that was totally innocent of charges to the state penal system. Third, I didn't look at the guy while he was telling me that line of crap, and I could read it in his voice that he was lying through his teeth.
He would sit outside where I worked and watch me for hours. He followed me constantly (he had a red vehicle with a cloth top...it was hard to miss!) and would call me up to 20 times a day leaving messages on the phone. (My number is unlisted, but the lady that had the shop gave the idiot my telephone number...I still haven't figured out who is stupider!!! I ended up having to change not only my home number but also my cell phone number...yep she gave him both.) It took a lot of work and even more terror to get the guy out of my hair and out of my life. The mess nearly cost me a wonderful boy friend, my BF thought that I was after this looser!
I can totally relate to people who have had stalkers of any kind in their lives. You need to feel safe in your home with your telephones and in your place of employment...with these mental people, you loose that warm blanket of security and safety. I am so glad that things are starting to clear up. I couldn't unfreeze the flashbacks that came to the forefront from that episode...because there was a LOT more to the stalking than just the calling, following and watching. He came into the place I worked a LOT, and there were things that happened that I don't like to remember let alone talk about.
There isn't always stress with stalkers, but there is the unsettled feelings that come with the realization that you have someone who is after you--even if they aren't in this country. You can either cower in terror or you can get pissed about someone trying to take over your life. Pye, you are the strong person who is using the pissed to take action and kick this sucker to the curb. Good for you!!! I wish I could have had that strength.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
5 Jun 09
Well with a lot of the crap I've gone through in my life very little unnerves me and yes I tend to lean to the pissed off attitude instead
How S-T-U-P-I-D of that woman to give that nutcase not only your home phone number but cell number...what on earth was she thinking? Or WAS she thinking?? Sorry to hear you went through such an episode in your life...is the guy behind prison bars again???
@Loverbear (4918)
• United States
5 Jun 09
Thanks to Megan's law, I can keep checks on the guy. He disappeared from the law enforcement listing on the net, so I figure he didn't make it on the outside and ended up back in the joint.
There is a molester that they released not too long ago who is in Santa Barbars county. He is costing the tax payers something like 20 grand a day for the security (he is constantly monitored and has a tracking device on his leg for them to keep an eye on him) and has 24 hour a day guards...that is just a bit much...especially with the financial troubles the state is in. In my opinion they need to remove the important parts and render the molesters having to squat to pee!
Yes, the lady who gave out my phone number is dumber than 6 cases of burnt out light bulbs! I could relate a LOT about how dumb the woman is, but it would be a waste of good space. Let's put it this way, she has an IQ of about a 69.
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@cynicalandoutspoken (4725)
• United States
4 Jun 09
I hope he really is gone for good because half the stuff you have won't do you any good.
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Copying his comments and saving them[/i] won't help. My ex sent me emails from his gmail account threatening to kill me and they weren't admissible in court because they could be altered by someone with the right skills.
Your stalkers IP address. I could live across the street from you and use a program from the internet to make my IP address show you I was from China, Switzerland, Oklahoma, or anywhere else I wanted to.
Your stalkers numerous identities. Unless he was dumb enough to use his real contact info when he opened all the accounts then there is no legal way to verify whos account those names belonged to. And to go one step further....there is no way to prove it was the stalker behind the keyboard. Again to reference my ex psychopath....he claimed he didn't write those threatening emails to me and having the emails sent from his email account to me threatening me was NOT considered proof enough.
There are even programs available on the internet that will allow me to call you over my computer and make the phone number that shows up on your called ID or in your call records appear as any number I want it to. My ex used to get a kick out of calling me and using my husbands cell phone number as the number that would appear on my caller ID because he knew I would answer it.
I do suggest you contact a cyberstalking site as maybe everything you have gathered is good enough for them, but if you would ever need to do anything in a court of law under the United States jurisdiction, your proof isn't sufficient.
But to answer your question, yes I have had a stalker. I actually got a man arrested for stalking me, but it helped that the police caught him on my front porch trying to peer in my windows. My complaints were ignored the first 5 times I called them.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
5 Jun 09
Well about the IP address...I happen to know one-hundred percent where my stalker is from via a mutual mylotter who used to be real life friends with the stalker and he's from the same country as my stalker, and the IP address clearly shows the same country of origin
Yup--I know about those sites, called "spoof-sites" where one can pretend to be anyone they wish --- new scammers are taking advantage of this and claiming to be the IRS or FBI or whatever.
Glad you managed to get your stalker nabbed but must have been unnerving to say the least that the cops ignored you five times...like sheesh
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
4 Jun 09
I am glad he is gone for your sake. I also would bet he will be back again. I hope that you find someone that can help you. I have never had a stalker and definitely don't want one.
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@royal52gens (5488)
• United States
4 Jun 09
Can I stalk you for a week or two?? LOL I have never been a stalker before. I need practice.
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
4 Jun 09
We do have strick stalking laws in Sydney.
Stalking offences are being more successfully prosecuted with less involvement from victims since the introduction of new laws in NSW, the state government says.
Stalking acts are a regular occurrence and serious enough to carry a penalty of up to five years in prison, NSW Attorney-General John Hatzistergos says.
Between March and September last year, some 326 people were charged with stalking.
The law was changed in March 2008 to incorporate stalking by mobile phone, text messaging and stalking over the internet.
"The new Act expanded powers for police prosecutors to submit evidence around patterns of behaviour and has resulted in a spike in the number of guilty pleas entered, up from 70 to 88 per cent," a spokesman for Mr Hatzistergos said in a statement.
"This has had the effect of reducing the number of victims who need to face offenders in court."
Mr Hatzistergos said people had the right to go about their daily lives without fear of intimidation or harassment.
"These new laws have sent a clear message to would-be stalkers: stalking is a crime and offenders face serious penalties, including up to five years in prison," Mr Hatzistergos said in a statement.
"By expanding the range of evidence that can be used in prosecutions, the government's new stalking offence has proven to be an effective weapon in convicting more offenders."
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
5 Jun 09
Glad to hear the laws are so strict in your area...wonder if my stalker knows that since he's from your area and you know who I mean too *winks*
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Jun 09
Good, go for it, get im! As for the IP address though, you know if he's been coming here under multiple IDs, it is possible that he is using an IP anonymizer. So it might not be his real IP. But good luck...
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
8 Jun 09
Would an IP anonymizer also give a different location area as I do know where he's from at least
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
4 Jun 09
Hi Pyewacket. I hope you resolve this issue once and for all. Gee, I was not aware that he had been harassing you for three years! He is persistent; may be he is infatuated with you; has he tried to stalk you in other places? I wonder if he has looked you up to see where else you may be on the net. Creepy.
I can’t say that it has happened to me before unless you can count an ex who wouldn’t leave me alone and followed me everywhere until I threatened to call the Police! So far I haven’t had any bad experience online aside from the odd disagreement here and there.
Good luck with it all Pye, let us hope this sad individual has gone for good!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
5 Jun 09
I'm not aware of him stalking me anywhere else....thank goodness...think I would recognize his "voice"--that is way of writing. Yeesh sorry to hear you had an obsessive ex.
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
5 Jun 09
It was years ago. No one is bothering me now (I hope)!
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@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
6 Jun 09
hopefully,that's it for ya
um..not recently.unless you count my black cat who follows me everywhere..i have in the past though.
some 31 yr old was stalking me when i was 13.the cops put a kibosh to that real quick.
@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
9 Jun 09
this guy wasn't getting a clue..and he was calling when i wasn't home too..
which made him pretty stupid.he's lucky my dad never caught him before the cops did.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
8 Jun 09
My Kissy is my "stalker"--she insists on following me to the bathroom in particular..LOL...sounds like that 31 year old was your typical dirty "old" man--I've had a few of those too when I was younger--I was a little more verbal and outrightly would tell them to leave me the frick alone I'm not interested in you--that seemed to work for me....LOL--maybe it was the WAY I said it
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
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5 Jun 09
I'm pleased that you've fought him off Pye. Let's hope that he stays down. I have never stalked or been stalked. Apart from The Boss. I used to wait for her outside her office at leaving time hoping that she'd let me walk her to the bus stop. Poor lovesick puppy that I was/am. Must have worked, cos we've both been on the same bus for the past 23 years! Darn thing just won't stop!! LOL.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
6 Jun 09
LOL--so you're still stalking the "boss"--aww 23 years, that's a long time
@AltheGreat2430 (2716)
• Philippines
5 Jun 09
That's good for you. for now. He'll come back. Well I haven't have an online stalker before. I'd report him too if I had one. How do you track the IP address of a person? I'm curious about it. I'd track a person's IP if he/she tries to stalk me.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
6 Jun 09
There are a variety of programs one can get to get/track IP addresses and not hard to do, then one can add it to blogs, private websites one has...anywhere...heehee
@sulynsi (2671)
• Canada
5 Jun 09
I find this so bizarre, why anyone would waste their time bugging someone on the net.
All this talk about trolls and stalkers is worrying me. I've made a couple of posts tonight about viruses and worms that may have been perpetrated on the Lot.
I don't know if there is any connection, but it does seem possible.
It would make people nervous about replying to good discussions if they felt that a disgruntled poster could infect their PC because they respond to someone whom the troll dislikes.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
6 Jun 09
I think a common personality type of stalkers or trolls is that they just plain don't have a "real" life therefore just love making trouble as an ego-booster thing--I bett in real life they are sniveling cowards--right?
@wonttakelong (3555)
• United States
5 Jun 09
I love stalkers
they provide hours worth of laughs
sometimes they get annoying but you can always walk away when you get annoyed
they will no doubt still be there when you get back and you can laugh at them some more LOL
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
5 Jun 09
This stalker of mine is an obsessive sicko though. I have one of his comments from a discussion of mine copied where he outrightly mentions that too bad he didn't know me in 1996 as he was visiting his sister in Scarsdale (which is not too far from me) and he would have loved to have met me...don't think so.
@wonttakelong (3555)
• United States
5 Jun 09
yup he wants you alright LOL
it must really suck to be a hottie like you LOL
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@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
6 Jun 09
Pye-
I'm very glad things are working out for you. Yes, I've had my stalker in my life and it was very scary. Ok, I've had two, but the first one was more scary because the person would call and tell me what I was wearing, what I did at work, etc and the detectives could never catch them. The second one was much easier to deal with as most of it was online. It was still nervewracking, but I have great friends who provided me a great support system to work through it. My husband is an awesome man, so he found out legally what we could do.
I did have those sleepless nights though, so I can completely understand. It is a very scary and frustrating event when you feel powerless. It is when we reclaim that power, don't give it away, that we reclaim our own life and can move on. That's what I've done. However, I do now practice martial arts, and have learned situational awareness and am mindful.
Have a wonderful weekend. Namaste-Anora
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
6 Jun 09
That really was scary for you that you had someone call you and could tell you what you were wearing, etc. Knock on wood, I've never had that. I'm still in the process of collecting any "evidence" I have since it's taking a lot of backtracking and now that I have a IP tracker can tell who is viewing my profile page....heehee. I emailed some of my friends here, and asked them to purposely go to my page...within minutes I emailed them back telling THEM their IP addresses AND country of origin --neat huh? Now I don't feel so "powerless"...LOL. While I've never studied the martial arts, I did foil a mugger once who probably thought I was easy pickings...I may be short and thin, but rather strong...of course it also helped that I was literally beating him up with my rather heavy tote bag...LOL--he wound up scampering away from ME like a scared rabbit
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@check23 (448)
• Philippines
5 Jun 09
I did had once a... I don't know if it's a stalker or just obsessed. It was awful and he lives just 5 blocks away from our house. I got scared and can't go out of the house. It was a long story. But it was when i'm 13 and he was 16 and it lasted for about 7 years. Thanks God it's over.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
5 Jun 09
I'm glad it's over for you too, sounds like he really freaked you out there
@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
4 Jun 09
I have not been stalked since high school, and that was in ancient times when that kind of behavior was viewed as "cute". I am inspired by your thoroughness, Pye. You go girl.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
5 Jun 09
Yes back in "ancient times" what we call stalking now was thought of as being "cute"---I knew a guy like that too in my high school years who was a real nudge
@royal52gens (5488)
• United States
4 Jun 09
It is good to hear the stalker is gone for now. You are doing very good when it comes to documenting the issue. Keep a record of his IP address and country of origin. Gather all the advice and guidance you can. Then make a plan of action to stay organized. Report the stalker to the authorities in his country. You may have more information in your records than you realize. Read through everything you have very carefully. Look for any additional information the stalker may have given you that will identify marital status, town, number of children, job, friends, apartment or house, etc.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
5 Jun 09
No doubt he'll show up again as he does seem rather persistent. Yes, I'm going to start looking for contact info about cyberstalking in HIS country but did file a report to one cyberstalking site so they can give me advice. Thinking back to many of the comments he did make to me, it seemed he was real careful NOT to tell real personal things about himself
@mentalward (14690)
• United States
4 Jun 09
I've never had a stalker... that I KNOW of.
Someone did call me once on the phone after I threw my first husband out the door because he was so physically/emotionally abusive and tell me, "I'm going to kill you, Marti" and that had me plenty scared! I knew it wasn't my husband because, even if he had tried disquising his voice, he couldn't have sounded like that guy, but it could have been his brother, whom he went to live with after I kicked his butt out. But, I don't think that qualifies as a "stalker" since he never called again.
I'm so happy that you've found a way to deal with this creep who's been following you around! I did see one of those discussions before it was deleted and know who you're speaking of. That guy must be such a HUGE loser to have all that time to follow you around and look up previous discussions of yours just so he could post certain phrases that you've used in the past. He has GOT to be off his rocker! It's so sad that some people have to do this sort of thing instead of trying to be productive with their time. I pity him, to a point. Of course, that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to see his ballz chopped off if he's ever caught!
@tamarafireheart (15384)
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4 Jun 09
Hi pye,
I am so pleased about that, and really hope he won't be back with another username name, I wonder what makes him tick? or is it the more you have a go at him, the more he wants to annoy you, some people gets a kick out of doing that and thank goodness I don't have a stalker like that as I don't really make a lot of discussions and just like a quie life with no one upsetting me, but saying that, I have been upset a few times here on mylot before and that is why I don't often do discussions but respond all the time.
May you be stalker free from now so you can get on with your life and not worry about him salkeing all the time, by the way how are your hands, are they getting any better? hope you are fine, take care. Hugs.
Bright Blessings.
Tamara
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@alicia812 (646)
• Australia
5 Jun 09
Three years of stalking? Thanks God the man stalking me for more than a year in the internet doesn't bother me anymore.
By the way, isn't it necessary to also have a proof that the person with that IP address is the same person pestering you for three years and that all those users which came to MyLot several times and created accounts after the other was using the same IP? Would it be possible for MyLot to provide you records of that if you will be needing more evidence?
This will serve as a lesson to all those who have nothing to do but stalk and pester people in the net. Hope your stalker will finally stop and learn his lesson.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
5 Jun 09
Mmmmm...you just gave me an idea....LOL...I could write to MyLot with the IP address that I do have and ask them if the IP address from the stalker's former incarnations were the same...they should still have records of it,....no???
@sibssippe (2)
• China
7 Jun 09
oh no.
I did not have a stalker.
I suggest you have a talk with the stalker, know why the stalker stalk with you. Maybe after the communicated him, he will not stalk with you. ask for help could not protect you all the time, but communication with the stalker would be a through way to solve the problem.
It is important to make you be safe when you talk with hime.you could prepare some tool for protect yourself(such as electrods), and have a connective with your friends when you are talking with.
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