Humpty Dumpty was pushed! Nursery rhymes and possible evil beginnings.....

@James72 (26790)
Australia
June 6, 2009 3:16am CST
After starting a discussion about phrases and their macabre origins, an ongoing conversation with another member got me thinking about Nursery Rhymes and possible evil spins that could be made on them. Was Humpty Dumpty pushed? Were Jack and Jill victims of attempted murder? Was Old MacDonald actually using the farm as a front for vivisection projects and animal experiments? Was Mary, Mary not quite contrary at all and growing marijuana and poppies? Did that other Mary have a little lamb because she'd kidnapped it, was holding it for ransom and ultimately planned to eat it? Was Red Riding Hood moonlighting as a forest hooker? Was Snow White manipulating the Seven Dwarves and forcing them to make fake Nikes? All may not be as it seems! Can you think of any more possible spins to other much loved Nursery Rhymes?
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
6 Jun 09
I have been trying to respond here for ages but reading is such fun that I get sidetracked! brilliant topic! It's been a long time since I spoke of nursery rhymes and the only one I can remember other than the ones already mentioned talks of a sheep and his three bags full I'm sure you will have an explanation for that (them?).
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
6 Jun 09
We should be damkn well ashamed of ourselves and so should our Parents! I reckon these nursery rhymes may well be behind global warming in some way too. "Mr Sun, show your face?" Helllloooooooo! I don't even wanna think too much about what that itsy, bitsy spider was up to either, but he was probably a voyeur and on his way up to a bathroom window with a digital camera.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
6 Jun 09
This spider's got more front than Dolly Parton! I don't know WHAT to believe about him anymore. Do you think he might be in cahoots with the old woman in the shoe? I think so.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
6 Jun 09
Gosh with such evil goings on I can see why there were no PlayStations or the like. Those were even worse! And to think we told our kids all those harmless stories - so it's our fault the world is the way it is today
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@sulynsi (2671)
• Canada
6 Jun 09
Oh, yes there is definite proof that Humpty was the victim of a conspiracy to get something to eat. Our version of the rhyme goes, "all the kings horses and all the kings men, had eggs and bacon for breakfast" As you can see, Humpty is not an individual, but a name representing a whole barnyard of chickens and their oval progeny. I guess they were teaming up with the wolf in "three little pigs" to get the bacon. Now here's one I think was designed to mess with the heads of young kids. "A dillar a dollar, a ten o'clock scholar, What makes you come so soon? You used to come at 10 o'clock but now you come at noon." Ok, until you catch the sarcasm, a kid is scratching his head over that one, I know I was.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
6 Jun 09
Thanks for the link too! I'm checking it out as we speak.....
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
6 Jun 09
I work in Marketing sulynsi, so I'll hopefully always have an affinity for that type of thing! I've been checking out some of those nursery rhymes by the way..... My favourite so far is Zum Gali Gali Gali and it goes as follows: Zum gali gali gali, Zum gali gali. Zum gali gali gali, Zum gali gali. Jeez, I hope I can memorise it 'cos this ones definitely a keeper! (I think it's all about a man with a mouthful of peanut butter trying to count seagulls)
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@sulynsi (2671)
• Canada
6 Jun 09
Here's an awesome website for this discussion. It will provide hours of fodder for amusement! Rhymes and their history! I like the made up ones better, but it is very interesting. www.zelo.com/family/nursery
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@balasri (26537)
• India
6 Jun 09
Does 'Goosey ,goosey gander' mean a woman of bad reputation.? "Goosey Goosey Gander where shall I wander, Upstairs, downstairs and in my lady's chamber There I met an old man who wouldn't say his prayers, I took him by the left leg and threw him down the stairs".
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@balasri (26537)
• India
6 Jun 09
Paid him right for chasing the wild goose.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
6 Jun 09
LMAO, given all these "truths" that are being uncovered here, anything's possible!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
6 Jun 09
Goodness me Bala, you may be on to something here! Maybe they threw the old man down the stairs 'cos he refused to leave a decent tip? The prayers angle is nothing but a diversionary tactic! I'll never look at a goose the same again.
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• India
6 Jun 09
So ??? You know the reality too eh, but Alas ! You know only part of it... OK, here's the real story, Old MacDonald wasn't so old actually when all of this happened... There was this hot blond Mary working at his farm with all the sheep (of course they wanted the kids to think she had only one sheep (security reasons)). But this guy had a granddaughter Heidi, when he really got old, Heidi was taken away from him and he became all grumpy. So he started staying all alone and doing grumpy stuff like that... So one day, he heard some fun and merrymaking from the top of the hill... There was Mr. Dumpty, and there were these small kids, whom he later found out were Jack and Jill... So McD being all old and Mary all uninteresting, he decided a plot to take down Humpty Jill and Jack. But he was a man filled with grief because of the loss of Heidi, so he wanted to take down everyone in a single night... So one dark monday night, when the kids were going up the hill to play with Humpty, he asked Jack to fetch a pail of water. Of course guys, he denied, but then there was Jill there too. So to impress her (assuming she was a she !!!) he agreed... And then that night all these nursery rhymes and stories were born to feed upon the minds of innocent children. As you might have guessed by now, there was the big bad wolf hired by McD to take care of the kids and Humpty... So when the kids were busy in other things (obviously fetching the pail, naughty mind) Dumpty was pushed and then when the kids came running after hearing the splatter, a huff and a puff and you know about the neural problems that Jack had to face. Oh yeah, last but not least, Mr. Big bad wolf was paid via paypal (Oh come on, don't say didn't know that ).. Hey wanted to tell you about the little green men from mars whom they pictured as dwarfs but some other day.......
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
6 Jun 09
You've certainly got your finger firmly on the pulse of what's going down in Nursery Rhyme circles pratyushtamhankar! I always had a sneaking suspicion that there was a collaborative effort behind all the mayhem, but I had no idea that Old McD was the mastermind! How stupid of him to pay the Big Bad Wolf using PayPal though! Ummmmmm PAPER TRAIL! Jeez Old McD, you've just handed yourself to the police on a platter with that mistake. Then again, he probably used a ghost account to make a transfer as he seems to have all the other angles covered here..... I appreciate the intel on all of this, I really do. What an eye opener it's been! LMAO
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• India
6 Jun 09
Ghost account !!! Of course, thats the one last piece to the puzzle... Thats the true intellect we are talking about... Hmmm, the same reason, still we eat at McDonalds. I mean Hey would you suspect the man wearing yellow and red and sitting all day on his bench to have done such a thing ??? I must say james, your discussions are some of the best on mylot ...
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
6 Jun 09
Ronald, how COULD you! And all this time, everyone was putting the blame firmly on the shoulders of the Hamburglar! lol. I'm happy to hear that you enjoy my discussions too pratyush. I have a heck of a lot of fun with them myself! It's great to not have to be so serious all the time.
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
8 Jun 09
Well that's a very great way of introducing Nursery Rhymes to kindergarten kids! Little Boy Blue, come blow your horn, the sheeps in the meadow, the cows in the corn???? (now why would a cow get into a corn? does the cow have an idea of his big size?) Where is the little boy who looks under the sheep? He's under the haystack fast asleep? Now aside from the malingering issues of little boy blue, why was he called boy blue in the first place? He probably had a heart disease! And yet his parents forced him to 'blow horns' all day, and instead of giving him a good place to rest, he was given a stack of hay! Talk about child neglect and child abuse!! And well this isn't a nursery rhyme, but I think the beans that Jack got were GMO (Genetically Modified) that a man stole from a botanical lab s he could grow giant beans and export them to many parts of the world. tsk....tsk...tell me if the beans reach you in Cairo!lol
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@mathss1 (1181)
• United States
8 Jun 09
These are cases of attempted murder the CIA and FBI are on track and the kings men and his horses will be arrested All other cases are under investigation
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
8 Jun 09
Keep me posted of any developments if you can please Mathss. These evil characters need to be taken down and I want to make sure that I'm there to see it too. Those Kings men and horses ESPECIALLY need a good whuppin'. They didn't even put Humpty back together. In fact, I don't reckon they even tried! Anyone know if it was "Egg Week" at the castle after their involvement?
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@alokn99 (5717)
• India
7 Jun 09
Conspiracy theories is it ?.. Twinkle twinkle little star..how i wonder what you are ?? A UFO... Ba.Ba Black sheep have..Thre bags full..? what's the wool here James..and 3 bags of them ? London bridge is falling down...Terrorism angle ? Three blind mice, three blind mice,.....Who cut off their tails with a carving knife,..Now that's got an evil beginning allright? Did you ? Old Mother Hubbard Went to the cupboard....So the poor little doggie had none...Dognappers? I think humpty dumpty was pushed too..
@alokn99 (5717)
• India
8 Jun 09
What's with ranking going to 1-2 then 2-1-2.... Hmmm conspiracy here ..
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
8 Jun 09
It's confusing the heck out of me actually! Whatever the back-end algorithm is that's working out rankings, it sure is a strange one!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
7 Jun 09
I'm pretty confident that I've managed to get to the bottom of twinkle, twinkle little star and I've covered the main angles in response 10. I'm equally as confident that those 3 bags ertainly didn't contain wool too! Hashish maybe? Or even lamb body parts for illegal sale to Butchers in side streets? I reckon there's a damn good chance that the three mice were blinded because they knew exactly what the deal was with London Bridge falling down, but they're of course running scared and tail-less, so they're unlikely to tell us any more for now. The pivotal question here, is who the heck blinded them? Personally I feel that all trails lead to the Queen of all of this mayhem and that's Mother Goose herself! Old Mother Hubbard's in up to her neck too. Never trust an old wench that mistreats animals! This is way beyond conspiracy theories now Alok. We've hit reality time I'm afraid. There's just way too much proof now to ever see these rhymes the same again.....
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@loudcry (1043)
• India
9 Jun 09
This discussion is a riot! This discussion is the mother of all conspiracy theories! Twinkle twinkle little star seems to be left out. Was that a star, or a government sent satellite to keep a tab on us?
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
9 Jun 09
Twinkle, twinkle's been covered alright, check out response 10! Mother Goose = Mother of all conspiracy theories! What a sinister mathematical equation we've uncovered so far. And to think that children worldwide have been exposed to these coded words of destruction for decades or longer! It sure has been a fun discussion though, I'm happy to see that you've enjoyed it too.
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@royal52gens (5488)
• United States
6 Jun 09
LMAO!!!! James, you really need to get more sleep. Although, the three men in a tub do have me concerned. Why were they in a tub together? Sounds a bit kinky to me, ya know.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
6 Jun 09
AND they were rub-a-dub-dubbing too! It sure does sound rather kinky and I wonder if a goat was involved at all? It doesn't matter how much sleep I get, royal. I'm still gonna be messed up at times! (I think there's something in the air that triggers it)
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
6 Jun 09
They have goats in reggae clubs???
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
6 Jun 09
Combine the 2 and you've certainly got something interesting going on!
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@sid556 (30959)
• United States
8 Jun 09
Are you the one that stole the humpty dumpty costume from the local play theater here last week? seriously...the men in blue are looking for the humpty dumpty costume thief!! seems a bit suspicious that you are obsessing with humpty dumpty and such. hmmm...
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
8 Jun 09
Jeez, I never thought anyone would find out about this! I've been influenced heavily by ongoing dreams about a giant omelette, so I had no choice really. Little did I know that the yolk and egg whites were already gone??? What the heck is up with that? I ended up using the suit to train guard dogs how to attack. It's been quite effectively actually and the dogs have responded well. One word of warning if I could..... If you're ever walking back from the grocery store with a carton of eggs and you see a guard dog, drop the eggs and RUN!
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@sid556 (30959)
• United States
8 Jun 09
talk about an evil little twist. so are you?
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@sid556 (30959)
• United States
8 Jun 09
So you confess? I knew it. Don't worry.....your secret is safe here. Just beware....all the kings horses and all the kings men are searching for the culprit.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Jun 09
lol I don't know about any of those other characters but I know that Mary had a little lamb because: Mary had a little sheep And with the sheep she went to sleep. The sheep turned out to be a ram. Mary had a little lamb.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
8 Jun 09
Poor Mary! Why Mary? WHY? Sulphuric acid??? Then again, that's one down and many more to go! I'm actually surprised the ram never ended up killing her in the first instance. Mary had a little lamb She loved to smack it silly She'd throw it up into the air And catch it by its willy!
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Jun 09
And the day after that... Mary had a little drink But she shall drink no more. for what she thought was H2O Was H2SO4....
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Jun 09
Yeah, that explains a lot... The ram ended up in a sandwich and Mary failed the acid test (hehehe)...
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• United States
7 Jun 09
Nice conversation with the old lady who lives in the shoe. See there are always different things that pop into peoples heads. who knows who the father was to all those kids. And welfare she would have know choice but to be on it for the sake of know money coming in. And who would watch all those kids why she worked?
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
7 Jun 09
It just goes to show how sick minded we can all be if we dig deep enough! The Father of all the old lady in a shoe kids appears to be an unknown for now, but I reckon she got around a bit, so there's more than likely MANY Fathers! They obviously aren't contributing anything towards the kids upkeep though, otherwise there'd at least be a second shoe to make it a pair! Maybe there's no one watching the kids at all either? She probably has them all hand stitching souvenirs or something to supplement her welfare income.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
7 Jun 09
It does seem like she was a deadbeat Dad magnet, doesn't it! Personally I think she has the kids working to make souvenirs and stuff. It's also been determined that it's highly likely she's a welfare cheat, so the extra income the kids generate would come in handy! You'd think she would've at least bought a second shoe to make a pair by now.
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• United States
7 Jun 09
Do you ever wonder if she had all those kids? or did she take them all? And did she make them all work for her to make some money. Maybe kidnapped all the kids. And if they were all her kids she went through a lot of men have them all. And not one father supported them.
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• United States
7 Jun 09
LOL Snow white and making fake Nikes. Mary growing her own stuff. To funny. But I understand where you are coming from asking the questions. Jack and Jill and Humpty Dumpty are 2 good ones to be asking about. I was wondering on those 2 myself.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
7 Jun 09
Double the fun yes? I think that if we were to uncover and get to know ALL the angles behind these nursery rhymes, we'd end up in a corner rocking back and forth in the foetal position for months! That Mother Goose has a lot to answer for, that's for sure! Next thing you know, we'll discover that "row, row, row your boat" was about a slave ship!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
7 Jun 09
Which is why it's a good thing to have such a solid collection of twisted minds here on mylot to wade through all the hidden meanings!
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• United States
7 Jun 09
Well that is another good thought. Wouldn't have thought about row row row your boat as being something for people as being slaves on it. There are always stories behind them. Just figuring them all out is another thing in its self.
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@jayrene (2708)
• Philippines
6 Jun 09
woohooo... this is the first ever discussion where i have read all the responses... i dont have anything to contribute, but i love reading everything in here just want to let you know that... what a great discussion this was, , if there was a best post competition, i'll vote for this as the number one... thanks for all the laughs... ===== will be checking this for new responses... ===== have you got anything for twinkle twinkle little stars?
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
7 Jun 09
I know! Scary isn't it! And to think we all thought it was something to do with a little star twinkling in the sky.....
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
7 Jun 09
The world as we know it has changed forever, Alice. lol.
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@jayrene (2708)
• Philippines
7 Jun 09
oh boy...
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@SViswan (12051)
• India
8 Mar 10
lol...James...I don't see you around here anymore and I'm sure you are getting the much needed sleep. How do you come up with such discussions??? What do you think of? How does your mind work? Were Little Tommy trying to kill the cat? How come Hickety Pickety lays eggs only for gentlemen? (some conspiracy against the females there?) Why did P*ssy (lol..I couldn't type the word...and didn't realize)cat go to London - on a mission or visiting the Queen?
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
8 Jun 09
Hey James!! You have really been panda spanking...Keep it up! I will follow you soon..
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
8 Jun 09
I'll end up too jaded with the world if I don't panda spank, mimpi! I can't seem to get my number one spot back though! it's quite bizarre really. Oh well..... SPANK ON!
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@reckon21 (3479)
• Philippines
6 Jun 09
Nursery rhymes are fun to hear. They are intended for the innocent minds. The kids I mean. Upon reading this I just realized that they have hidden message as well. You unfounded it. The reading is fun. The discussion is very much alive. I like it.
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
7 Jun 09
They sure ARE fun and especially when we're kids! I wonder how much we don't yet know still though? For all we know, nursery rhymes could be a secretly coded mind meld procedures devised by world underground authorities to brainwash our children! I'm happy to hear you've enjoyed the discussion!
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• United States
6 Jun 09
You read the wolf's version of the "Three Little Pigs"?
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
7 Jun 09
I haven't actually! But I hear a king sized bottle of barbecue sauce and an all-you-can-eat salad bar was involved? I believe there was rough justice in the end too, because the wolf ended up having a mild heart attack after consuming all that fatty pork!
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