Health and life insurances: Are they against God's power over us?
By caesarin
@caesarin (1089)
Indonesia
June 17, 2009 3:44am CST
I came up with this because once a friend of my husband shared her experience with insurance one day.
So, she said she once was health and life insured for about sometime and suddenly she decided not to continue the insurance because her priest (she is Christian) said that people who insured their health and life is people who doesn't believe in God.
COME ON! Was the priest insane or was my husband's friend too stupid to listen to his priest?
Have you ever heard of a story of a priest that was about to be drowned in a flood. There were 3 boats came in different times tried to save him but he doesn't want to be saved because he believe that God will come to save him. Then finally he was dead of drowning. And in heaven he made a big complaint to God for not coming to save him.
So God simply said that He had come to rescue him 3 times with the boat but he just keep refusing Him. LOL.
I believe that nothing is beyond his power, that our life is God's. But He doesn't make us that stupid not to fight against illness and death. We can only try as long if our efforts are not against the rule of nature.
If insurance is against God's power then all doctors should go to hell.
Don't you think so?
7 responses
@tulipstrader (1467)
• India
18 Jun 09
your friend's husband was foolish to listen to a priest and discontinue his health and life insurance.
in what way does this insurance interferes with religion? its only stupid people get such ideas. the priest in question is not a well wisher of any one. nowhere in the scriptures it is mentioned that one should not insure health and life as it goes against god.
@tulipstrader (1467)
• India
19 Jun 09
if the church takes care of their medical expenses, then it is fine. from what you have said, i assume church does not provide for anything. may be tomorow they will ask them to stop taking treatment as it is against the will of god. soon you will witness this too.
@nzalheart (2338)
• India
20 Jun 09
Hello caesarin!!!
I would consider it as the perfect foolishness of that person in believing in such things. The priest are going on telling the world as they like. These priests want to see this world going on with their thoughts. I can't comply or agree with them.
The story was really interesting hehe...And look how foolish that person drowning was. But if the man had been in heaven, then why does he still have the question, when he already found the better place than this earth...
If god is the one, then everything that happens here is due to God. People say we are the creation of god. When the good things happen they say it was due to gods wish and when the bad things happen it was our mistake. I don't believe in such things. If whatever that happens is happened due to god, then we are not responsible for anything, god is himself responsible, even for our sins...
The priest have made this world even more and more crazier. They are saying this and that, and for everything they say it is the will of god or against the will of god as they like. And even you can't question them why it is? They don't have a strong reason, and the only reason they say it is god's wish. The perfect stupidity to believe on such things.
After all most people rather than loving god, they are bound to love god by fear. As it is already stated in the ten commandments, That God is jealous god and you would be sent to hell for not following him.
To believe it is another stupidity to me.
@caesarin (1089)
• Indonesia
20 Jun 09
Hi nzalheart. You really have quite of a thought. I wish I can talk to you about this more.
My thoughts:
1. God is no evil.
2. People love God by fear because people who made the rules of the religions made them to.
3. People is responsible for whatever they decided to do, all the consequences good or bad.
4. The perfect stupidity is that people are so much into their religions and take for granted whatever their priests told them too without seeking the truth themselves.
Thanks for sharing.
@nzalheart (2338)
• India
20 Jun 09
Well caesarin!!!
I am always ready to talk on these interesting matters.
Yes God is no evil. God in the infinite love that resides within ourselves. The difference is that we seek it or not.
And I also agree with what you said, the good you do bring good and the bad you do bring bad. I believe in the law of karma.
Another perfect stupidity of people is that, they don't use their common sense. Human beings are given the mind to think which makes us superior than other beings. But the sad thing is that, people bother to use this mind. We have our mind to explore, to totally believe in what others say is to get synchronized. That means our mind is not powerful. The powerful mind have powerful thoughts which can synchronize others thoughts.
The religions seems to exist with this principle of synchronicity, the capturing of mind.
There are really many stuffs to talk about if we go on....
Happy mylotting for now...
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
19 Jun 09
Well, I have thought over this many times before. While it is ludicrous that in this age and time we refuse medical aid and health insurance in the name of God, it is equally true that our Karma defines our life. To make my views clearer, I am a firm believer in the Karmic theory of Hinduism...our actions determine our life, both present and future. This, coupled with reincarnation and the cycle of birth and rebirth, comes down to this...good actions ensure a good life and bad actions have similarly bad repurcussions on our lives. We are destined to suffer if our past actions determine so. In this light, it does seem true to challenge and deny God if we seek out ways and means to evade our sufferings.
However, be sure I pop that pill everytime I fall sick or I will never hesitate to rush to get medical aid if my friends or family need it.
@caesarin (1089)
• Indonesia
20 Jun 09
Hi all.
To tell you the truth, I'm very lucky to be born in a family that's not so religious.
It push me to seek for the truth I've been asking myself so far.
My parents are Chinese following the traditions of praying to the gods and ancestor.
I went to Catholic school and married a Catholic husband. I converted to Catholic before I married my husband but my mind isn't just like that.
I always believe in karma and reincarnation and nothing's going to change it.
I used to have this question when I was a child. If people die and don't rebirth what would happen in heaven? Over crowded?
About what you're saying, you might be right but she is a Christian.
Besides, whatever bad things that happen to our life (that was caused by the bad karma) can be erased by doing good actions, don't you think so? And that's when insurance works.
Or just say if we had insurance, we won't burden other people for the cost of the cure.
Thanks for sharing.
@nzalheart (2338)
• India
20 Jun 09
hello sudiptacallingu!!!
I also believe in what Sudip has said. This world is going on with the force of karma. The law of attraction by the scientists also say that this universe is governed by thoughts. And the theory of karma is also based on thoughts. The theory of Karma is found in the Buddhism and Hinduism and in some other religions too. But the western religions don't believe in this thing and so people in the west do not believe in these things. The law of attraction is not accepted by the Christians. The results of quantum physics given by scientists has been controversial because there are lot of Christians. But if you compare the quantum physics and Buddhism, and Hinduism too, then you will find lot of similarities between them.
@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
19 Jun 09
Proverbs 22:3 (New International Version)
3 A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge,
but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
I think this verse shows that taking precautions is wise. Insurance is a precation in case some calamity comes our way. So it is wise, if one can afford it, to have automobile, fire, heath, and life insurance.
@bird123 (10643)
• United States
19 Jun 09
God created illness so that man would have to learn medical knowledge. God wants you to go to the doctor. When a problem is created for a doctor or man, the learning is in the solving. As far as insurance, it is an invention of man which makes the financial burden easier on those who do get sick. You see the healthy ones pay but don't cost. The difference helps those sick and ok course the insurance companies.
@caesarin (1089)
• Indonesia
19 Jun 09
Hi. Doctor and medical technologies are proofs that human do made much of God's gift, the brain. On every angle and perspectives, I don't see how getting insurance is wrong. If people don't do anything for their life like trying to fight from diseases then it makes us a being that are not using God's gift properly, the brain.
Thanks for sharing.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
19 Jun 09
Please don't call your husbands friend stupid. It would hurt for you to find out he was calling you stupid, so try not to do things that if the positions were reversed, you'd find hurtful.
That said, the priest is wrong. Proverbs 27:12 says that a prudent man foresees evil and hides himself, while the simple pass on and are punished. Insurance is simply a way to safe guard the future, which is widely taught in the bible. Try Proverbs 6:6-8.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
17 Jun 09
I think they need to find insurance against an idiot priest.
@caesarin (1089)
• Indonesia
18 Jun 09
LOL! This is crazy. She was a clever woman, even a career woman with good reputation.
But she just did what her priest told her, she immediately stopped the insurance, without thinking about it again.
And the priest, I don't know what to say about the priest, maybe an idiot or insane.
But how can somebody like him can become a priest?
Thanks for sharing.