Here we go again, with a new issue of the Justice System
By carrotman92
@carrotman92 (446)
United States
June 20, 2009 12:58am CST
My father, being the diabetic that he is, and im sure you have read the other posts that i have made so you kinda know what i am talking about, anyway, so the po po patrol stopped him because he had a light out. and he did, no harm done there. But they started to harass him, see we arent the richest people in the world, so we dont have the best of vehicles. But our mentality is, as long as it gets you to where you are going. He was driving a 1984 datsun Nissan. it used to be red, now its fading and the paint is falling off. They asked him what he did for a living, and he said he was a Professional Structual Engineer, which he is. and they snickerd about to one another and asked why he was driving that vehicle. they continued to harass him. I am not going to repeat the questions the asked, because i dont remember, but they were stupid. I think the officers were stupid.
Tell me what you think about this!
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5 responses
@sjvenden27 (1840)
• United States
20 Jun 09
Not everyone can sit there and have a brand new vehicle.. Unlike some people that can have what ever they want.. Some have to work for a living and support their families first.. It was very wrong of the cops to sit there and judge your father's car.. SO WHAT if its old and looks like crap.. It runs, and even newer vehicles have a light out.. Why sit there and pick on someone that is trying?
@sjvenden27 (1840)
• United States
20 Jun 09
You are funny.. I have met a lot of people on here that have brains.. The reason why my thoughts are rare, is because of the situation that I am in, I was born poor, and well unless something happens I will be poor for a long time.. That's the way it is.. People siting there judging me, thinking I am lazy or something.. Nope, I have a several disabilities that make it hard for me to have a 9 to 5 job.. And that's if I can get hired... Have had several employers really like my applications but they would see me in person, well I would get.. Sorry the position was filled, sorry I didn't call.. and then when I would go back the help sign was still there.. This reminds me of one of my discussion that I started a while back... about poor people assumed to be lazy... I think people should stop and look at the situation, take themselves out of their shoes and go into your... I could just about guarantee these people would have a different view on life.. I feel that it does not matter the amount of money you make... Its the way you are on the inside that counts!! Money can go away over time, your broke.. but if you have a good personality then you have something to fall back on... But if you become broke and well your personality sucks, then you ain't got nothing..
@carrotman92 (446)
• United States
20 Jun 09
EXACTLY, thank you, some of the people that commented on thus topic dont have a brain in there head.... atleast there are smart people at mylot!
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@olydove (1209)
• United States
20 Jun 09
Very well written sjv if you're financially and materially rich but a total jerk you really don't have anything because the only reason people will even hang around you is for your money.
You can be financially poor but be the richest human being in the whole wide world ;)
I agree!
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@klw5000 (213)
• United States
20 Jun 09
From working in law enforcement, I will say that sometimes the police do get bored and just try to find something. I'm not going to say anything about the vehicle because it really doesn't matter. I was pulled one night by an officer in the county I used to work. He did not recognize me when he pulled me. He said it was for the tag light. I did not get out and check it, but the tag light was not out the next day when I stopped at the garage to get it fixed. I know the officer and I know that he frequently pulled females and harassed them. He is no longer employed with a law enforcement agency. Sometimes the people who work in law enforcement are the best picks, it just so happens that they were never caught for some of the things they did in their past. I have seen officer who are very disrespectful and arrogant. Fact is they are just like everybody else, but sometimes they forget that. Don't feel like the pinpointed him, maybe the car, but not your father. Sometimes run down vehicles are owned by those who can't afford another type of car. If they can't afford a better car, then chances are they can't afford the insurance, license plate or inspections. Therefore giving the officers more to write up.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
21 Jun 09
Running a tag will give the officer the make, model and color of the vehicle it's registered to. They can also tell from the tag whether the vehicle has been reported stolen or if the tags are suspended for one reason or another. It takes time for a tag to be suspended due to lack of insurance or inspection violations which is why the officer will ask for proof of insurance from the person operating the vehicle at the time of the stop. If your insurance expired two days ago that information wouldn't be in the system yet but you can't legally be on the road.
@carrotman92 (446)
• United States
20 Jun 09
well, on the fact they run the plates, wouldnt it show up that the vehicle is insured or not? and if the LP has the tags that it needs, and really its a Social Class judgement is what it is.
@lisan23 (442)
• United States
20 Jun 09
If it was that upsetting you or your father should have called the police department and asked to talk to the officer in charge. If he received a ticket it will have the name or badge number of the officer who pulled him over on it. If he didn't get a ticket, he hopefully should've gotten his name. Depending on where you live it is still possible for them to find out who pulled him over but if you live in an area that's large and has a larger police force it will probably not be possible. (At least not without a LOT of hassle.)
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
20 Jun 09
Vehicle operational standards are there for a reason...the safety of the folks in the vehicle and the safety of others. Your mentality that, as long as the car gets you to where you're going, it's acceptable for you to be in violation of the law is wrong. Lights especially are not there for looks. I've read the two other discussions you've started here and it seems to me that you believe it's okay to violate the law if you have a good excuse. It's not.
@carrotman92 (446)
• United States
20 Jun 09
no no no, see you arent getting it, it has been in the same condition for the past 5 years. There is no motor problems there is nothing hanging about and the only thing wrong is the paint is fading to be kinda pinkish. Well you i am guessing is a sir, ok sir. tell me, HOW IS THIS BREAKING THE DAMN LAW? i dont what state or country you are in, but in our state you have to have a legitimate reason to pull you over. the light thing was, but the harassment afterwords was not!
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
21 Jun 09
Maybe you should have looked at my profile before responding, smarta$$, because I'm not a "sir" and I currently live in south Florida. I've also lived in Maryland and Pennsylvania and in ALL THREE STATES there are motor vehicle standards, INCLUDING the requirement that all lights be working. If it was the light on the trunk, as you said in another response, then you're talking about the tag light which is a light law enforcement will pay attention to since they can't see the tag if the light is out. Yes, driving that vehicle in that condition was breaking the damn law whether you like it or not. You guys got away with it for 5 years when it probably would have cost less than $20 to fix it and you have a beef with the cops because your dad finally got nabbed for it? Oh, that's right...just like with your neighbor, they were mean and harassing...and didn't I also read about the hostile judge and jury coordinator in one of your other posts? Maybe your dad has a reputation with some of your local cops due to what you described as a nasty email in the jury duty post.
@olydove (1209)
• United States
20 Jun 09
Oh my lord I can't believe some people. Just because the vehicle has a light bulb not working does not make it unroad worthy. You mean to tell everyone here in MyLot that you guys have never ever ever driven your car with a light out unknowingly only to be told a few blocks down the road or a few miles by a stranger or a cop that your light was out?
ROFL Yes the complete light housing unit is going to fall of and explode all because the light bulb burnt out. UGH!
At any rate ehem... as the other law enforcement person said in one of the responses here.. Cops are just people too. We all get bored we all snicker at someone one time or another and if anyone in this world is saying they haven't done it at least once well I'd have to call bologna on that.
Needless to say if the officers kept on and kept on that's not ok and it should be reported to their superior officer that they are discriminating and harassing people the way they are.
As for your few other post and whether or not you think it's ok to just disobey the law I don't know because I haven't read them yet, but I agree with you it seems to be a social issue here and the officers in question were very wrong to treat your father in that manner. Some people even if they do make enough money don't like to go by a new car every year because there's no need. If the car runs and drives and is over all safe then it's fine for pete's sakes people be realistic not everyone wants to spend 30 thousand dollars on a vehicle!
@carrotman92 (446)
• United States
21 Jun 09
Yes, thank you! i totally agree. and thank you for the bit of humor in that part about the light housing falling and exploding. :)