How can a smoker prevent another smoker from smoking?
By HelScream
@HelScream (2822)
Philippines
June 25, 2009 12:16am CST
Ok I have to admit I am a smoker and been doing it for 13 years I guess
now the question is i want someone to quit smoking but how can I do this while I myself and a smoker and wanted to stop also
Sounds weird right but its the fact now can you suggest or tell me how to do that....
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20 responses
@sjvenden27 (1840)
• United States
25 Jun 09
I am a smoker, have been smoking since I was 13, so that would be 14 years.. I have almost quit but did not successfully do it yet.. The thing of it is you need to figure out for yourself why you started in the first place.. I started because I was a rebellious teenager and my mother hated the smell of smoke on my close.. From the sounds of it, I should be able to quit right? Nope.. Smoking is like a child's blankey that they use for comfort when they are scared or nervous about something.. Well smoking is that for me.. One day I hope to quit but havent... I have tried the gum, the patch, and cold turkey.. The only one that really seems to work just didn't follow through was cold turkey.. See the physical addiction of smoking will last for three days.. Then following is the mental addiction of smoking.. That can take a long time to calm.. but you never really get over it.. You still will have a craving for a smoke once and a while.. It takes a lot of courage and will power not to start again...
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@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
26 Jun 09
I have tried 1 month without smoking before but then was so foolish to go back again coz it was they called withdrawal syndrome thats what happens when you stop abruptly and now I couldnt stop....but hopefully I will and what ever it takes I will do it I may not be able to achieve that much in life but at least this one I have a control of so stopping would somehow give me a sense of fulfillment towards myself... good luck to you friend and to all smokers out there .
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@sjvenden27 (1840)
• United States
26 Jun 09
Thank you..One day I may kick the habit, until that day comes I am not going to worry about it.. Putting extra stress on trying to quit only will make it hard to succeed! Also having others around you supporting you.. and not forcing you to quit is another great aid in quitting.. I remember when my real grandma was trying to quit smoking.. Besides being a little more edgey then normal, she was ok.. It just drove her up the wall when her kids (adults) would call her and asked her if she was smoking.. and how the doctor told her not to... They were doing it out of concern for her, but in the end each time they called and asked it just made her want a smoke that much more.. She was trying to keep her mind off the subject.. So if your around someone that is trying to quit.. Keep in mind the more you bring the subject up the more temptation is there to start up again... Being a quiet supporter is better
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
27 Jun 09
hmmm makes sense thats good
being a quite supporter ok my friend thanks
gonna try that one out
@Margajoe (4709)
• Germany
26 Jun 09
Good luck.
Sorry to tell you this, but you can't.
You cannot make someone else stop smoking.
Especially when you smoke yourself.
You could encourage it by giving the example???
That means you have to stop too.
It is like me and my BF, with the drinking.
I cannot make him stop, he has to want to stop himself.
I can encourage him, by not drinking anymore.
That is what I am trying to do.
I have already stopped smoking on May 12th. But unfortunately my BF
still smokes. But he is jealous, he did not think I would go through with it.
But,I did.
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@Margajoe (4709)
• Germany
27 Jun 09
Thank-you Dan.
Just the conversation before here, you were telling me to keep myself
under control. This conversation you say I have a great control???
So, you see, I can have everything under control. hahahaha!
But you want to stop smoking. You know how I did it?
I started looking at all the bills I have to pay and added up all the money I was blowing in the air. It is a lot of money to just blow out and get cancer from.
My coughing got worse and I started to think different. What does smoking do for me?
Ask yourself that. What does it do for you?
It costs a lot of money. You bother other people with your smoke. You always stink, because the smoke gets in your cloths and hair. (You don't smell it, but others do.)
You always have bad breath. Your teeth go brown. The house (if you smoke inside) goes dirty brown and greasy. You get health problems for free. Coughing, sore throat.
You even get the flue faster because your body is not healthy. You have a bigger chance to get cancer and die at an early age. If you are lucky you can live long, but attached to a oxygen tank, because you cannot breath properly anymore.
You always feel like you are out of air, you have no condition.
You cannot have SX the way you want too, because you don't have enough air to go through with it.
Shall I go on??????
Think about it Dan. The only thing that will help you stop, is you.
You can do it, I did.
Just stop and when you feel like you want a smoke, think about what I told you.
Like me, I am feeling a lot better, I now when I start again I will feel bad.
I want to feel healthy, walk up the stairs without problems of needing air.
Think about it, take care.
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@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
27 Jun 09
wow Joe you have a great control I congratulate you with that
and yes you are right about that one of this days I will be able
to do just that and you would know since I would make a lot of
discussions that I have stopped smoking
I just hope that it will be soon
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@Paraluman (98)
• Philippines
25 Jun 09
I read from one article in the Reader's Digest magazine that the habit of smoking can be possibly replaced with a habit of walking. Committing yourself to walk 30 to 45 minutes a day. Now walking your way to work, to school or somewhere else is not counted in forming the new habit. One should set apart a time each day just for walking. I'm not sure how this information will help you or your friend but I want to pray for both of you. I believe that prayer moves the hands of God and changes things..here it goes: "Father, I thank You that You're always willing and able to reach out your hand to those needing Your help. I pray for my bro/sister rightnow, I pray that You show them how to quit smoking as this is not an easy thing. Help them Lord to be freed from this bondage.You said in your Word that nothing is impossible with You and so we hold on to that promise Lord..this I pray in the name of Jesus, Amen."
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@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
25 Jun 09
Thanks for the advice and thanks for the prayer to my friend
I really do hope by this year I would be able to stop smoking
since I really do want to quit and have been trying my very best to lessen
it and so far been successful too. again thanks for the prayers.
@uicbear (1900)
• United States
26 Jun 09
Really the best way you could encourage someone to quit smoking is to successfully quit yourself. It's near impossible for a smoker to convince another smoker to quit, if they are still smoking themselves. Even a non-smoker has a near impossible task of getting someone to quit smoking. The smoker just tells the non-smoker that they don't know how hard it is to quit, which is true. So quit first yourself, then encourage the other person.
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@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
26 Jun 09
yes you are right my friend and this give me a laugh when my friend ask me to encourage him to quit smoking I told him how I myself smoke lol
well I know this and I just made a point to him that somehow if we help ourselves
then maybe just maybe we will be able to stop this vise
@pickoy (733)
• Philippines
26 Jun 09
I don't smoke but from my grandmother's experience I can share something. She was smoker for more than 50 years, can you beat that? ahaha... anyway she stopped smoking when she turned 65 not instantly, that could ya, just minimize everyday... example you used to smoke 10 sticks a day tomorrow you go for 9 and so on and so forth until you're settled with just one... now this is the hard part... you need to get it out of your system, alternately find something - a replacement. Candy can be good or a gum. In her case, coffee... Without discipline and determination to change it won't work. It's always a good start to try.
@LiAXaZu (183)
• Philippines
25 Jun 09
It's good that you want someone to quit smoking because it shows your concern to the person. But we all know that a person cannot make another person quit smoking unless the other person really wants to. Now, it is also good that you are trying to quit. What you can do is openly suggest this to her/him so that to quit smoking will be a mutual decision for the both of you and lessen the pressure even just a bit. State your reason why you want to quit and why the other person have to. Don't explain the perils of smoking because more often than not, smokers already know that.
There's not much to say. I mean, whether a person wants to quit or not entirely depends on that person. What you can do is to show him/her how you really want to quit because if he/she sees that you really are determined to quit then maybe it will change their mind and follow suit.
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
25 Jun 09
yeah you are right it's just like saying how can you love others if you dont know how to love yourself so I need to start within me then before I can
persuade someone or encourage someone to stop
maybe just maybe this would really work with a
little help of self control which we all
know is a very hard thing to do.
@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
25 Jun 09
It is like "the blind leading the blind". A smoker really cannot get another smoker to quit, unless the person who is trying to get the one to quit, quits first and is successful at quitting.
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
26 Jun 09
Yeah you are right there my friend thats why it's high time for me to quit smoking as well not to stop my friend but to at least set a good example to my friend as well as to my nephews .....this give me more motivation now than ever.....
@ll1pl0x1ll (30)
• United States
25 Jun 09
i really don't think that a person who smokes can tell another person to stop smoking, because that is a hypocrite. But i do think that someone can have the will power given a certain situation. good luck, i hope you can over power the addiction.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
25 Jun 09
Let me gets this straight, You are a smoker and you want to get another to stop smoking? And you , yourself want to stop too? If you want to quit then it is simple, pair upi with this person and both you quit. you have each other as support. But if you want them to quit but you want to keep smoking , then it wont happen. Do as I say ,not as I do Never works.
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
25 Jun 09
That was what I am thinking to my friend more likely I would make a race to him and bet on something if who will be the first one to really stop then wins the prize. at least it would give us a motivation to quit just got to find that right prize ....
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@mylesnarvaez (5451)
• Philippines
25 Jun 09
you were right when you said you don't breathe in fire... but you do breathe in smoke...
i don't smoke. so at first i was just about to pass this discussion by but i went back to it again to share. i cannot tell you to stop smoking because it's a decision you have to do yourself. likewise you cannot prevent another smoker from smoking because you yourself smoke also. besides, for the action to be effective, the decision to do it must come from within.
and you must lead by example...
drink your own medicine...
walk the walk and talk the talk...
i was 13 when too much smoking and drinking claimed my grandfather. i blamed it on those two lethal stuff so i grew up avoiding those whatever the temptation. the most i could do now is a social drink. it was just fortunate that all my ex-bf didn't smoke or never got drunk also.
my brothers smoke occasionally... but never in my presence or in the presence of the kids in the family. if we were playing poker (local version), one of the unwritten rules is that: "no smoking during the game" or else i won't play. so they all behave. they knew how difficult it is for me because i developed an acquired asthma.
if you love or care enough for a friend, family or a partner... you'd do something to avoid harm or hurt (in whatever forms and shapes) befalling on them.
apparently, you already know it's not good for you... and it's not good for the person you care about. i think you care about this person, enough to make him/her quit smoking... right? i don't have any idea how you can prevent another smoker from smoking except... to quit smoking yourself. if not to eliminate the habit... then at least minimize. focus your mind on something else, do other habit-forming activities... you can resort to ogling swaying hips which you find very lovely to look at... or something else that is not detrimental to one's health.
@zhhyhb (11)
• China
26 Jun 09
the precondition of persuade somebody else to quit smoking is that you are not a smoker, otherwise how could you expect others take your suggestion while you don't follow . The hardest thing in this world is to make others believe what you doubt.
So my advice is that you quit somking right away and by this set a good example for the "persuadee", that would be the most effective way to achieve your intention. And the same way may lead you to a more success, not only in your daily life, but the career as well.
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
27 Jun 09
yeah you are right ....it was his idea for me to persuade him to stop smoking
and I laugh out loud when he suggested this coz he perfectly know that I
smoked too...
Well I guess I know now what his point on telling me that it was
I guess an indirect way of inviting me to stop smoking as well.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
25 Jun 09
U are wasting your time trying to do that. Until they make up their own mind they will not quit. i am a smoker to know i need to quit but all the talking from someone else about me doing that would be wasted. HOW CAN U SAY ANYTHING WHEN U SMOKE YOURSELF?????
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
26 Jun 09
We certainly do even tho it's not a good thing. . I need to quit but doubt i ever do, been at it too long. mAYBE Y'ALL CAN HELP EACH OTHER. U don't want to be like me & KNOW U HAVE BEEN SMOKING FOR SOOOOOO LONG. WISH u both luck.
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
25 Jun 09
you are right that about that my lady this discussion was started coz I was talking to my friend last night then all of a sudden he asked me to remind him to lessen his smoke and help him to at least minimize it ..... this really give me a big laugh last night and started a topic and told my friend ok tell me how am I gonna help you while I myself needs help too lol and both of us laugh to that and told him ok wait let me make a discussion in mylot and lets see what they have to say for sure they would think me as a stupid smoker lol well anyways my lady I risk my name by making this funny discussion and never thought that I would even get a good answers .. you are right about that you know at least me and you have a thing in common now .
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@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
26 Jun 09
whish you luck too my lady and if that time will come that we can stop this the I guess I could call us very successful
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@darksorrow (4666)
• Bangladesh
29 Jun 09
Well depends who you want to stop smoking and how can you show your right to that person. Also if that person will listen to you or not if you say so. After that just try to find a method to stop that person.
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
29 Jun 09
hmmmm most of the answers here told me that one can never stop someone from smoking if one also smoke its like guiding a blind men while the guide is also blind so no matter who the person is it really wont work out my friend and it would be hard for that person to stop the other since that person will also have to stop himself first let me stop smoking and who knows the other one will follow
@commanderxo (1494)
• Canada
29 Jun 09
Ooooo, that's a good one. Sounds to me like the other smoker is probably somewhat younger than you? Whatever. The truth is, THEY are the one that will decide if they want to quit or not, and I doubt anything you say, will persuade them otherwise.
It's kind of hard to tell them: "Do as I say, not as I do", and expect something different. The best way is probably to demonstrate the idea of quitting, by being the first one to do so. Chances are if they see you do it, they might also.
Good luck with that one.
cdrxo
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
29 Jun 09
lol got curious my friend nothing much to say thats why I have thought of this topic yes I know that and I also told my friend that
it's kind a funny right he wanting me to persuade him to stop smoking while in fact
I smoke as well
@mrgavediger (73)
• United States
27 Jun 09
the patch works! if you first find a support group, then fill the void ,5 min sitting reading ,lolly pops,a walk, play chess, swim, 1000 piece puzzle, write aletter ,hang with non smokers.and REWARD YOUR SELF every week if you don't buy a pack because you will have 400.00 by the end of the month ~j-mail me if you want firemanj45@yahoo.com I been there ....went to a cancer hospital in tx to visit people just to see what if I got it from smoking what would I feel?What would I have to do...did you know 7000,chemicals in one beam of wood besides what'S in side a burning house that's causes cancer to us fire fighters So sure Ikeep smoking or what?
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
27 Jun 09
thanks my friend and sure would let you know if I will be able to stop this addiction but for now I am doing great and have successfully lessen my intake a day
I do hope that it wont be to late for me to quit then ...
@GardenGerty (160488)
• United States
26 Jun 09
It depends on who the person is and their relationship to you. I was the daughter of smokers, and I definitively did not choose to smoke. My hubby says that his dad, a smoker, told him that if he smoked he could not do sports because that would be a lie. Athletes should not smoke and they cheat their teammates and fans when they smoke. I askeda young person once why, if they were so determined to be in control of their own life, why were they allowing an addiction to control them? For that person it was a new insight. I guess there is no right way, other than telling the truth.
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
27 Jun 09
you have a point my friend and yes we smokers may find lots of reasons
for us to smoke but still in the end it still doesnt excuse us that what we are doing is still destroying us... this makes me realize that that I should be responsible with my own actions and this also motivates me to lessen and somedy stop myself from smoking.
@derek_a (10874)
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25 Jun 09
I used to smoke, but quit back in 1980. I practice hypnotherapy and I get many people coming to me to quit smoking. And they used to come to quit smoking when I was a smoker myself. I never hid the fact that I smoked, and explained to them that I did not wantto quit, but they did. They quit because they wanted to. Therefore I, as a smoker helped others to quit. People will only quit smoking because they want to. If they don't want to, in my experience and I must have seen thousands of people wanting to quit - they won't. - Derek
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
25 Jun 09
got me a bit confused there doc derek lol well anyways I will just try to quit then see if I can and if I can the I guess it would be much easier for me to convince my friend to quit as well.. thanks
@derek_a (10874)
•
25 Jun 09
I used to smoke, but quit back in 1980. I practice hypnotherapy and I get many people coming to me to quit smoking. And they used to come to quit smoking when I was a smoker myself. I never hid the fact that I smoked, and explained to them that I did not wantto quit, but they did. They quit because they wanted to. Therefore I, as a smoker helped others to quit. People will only quit smoking because they want to. If they don't want to, in my experience and I must have seen thousands of people wanting to quit - they won't. - Derek
@daryljane (3406)
• Philippines
26 Jun 09
Im a smoker for 4 years and was able to quit smoking 4 months ago. I just did it. What made me decide to quit smoking was when i planned of working out, and i need a head start, i dont want to be running out of breath when im doing cardio, so i did quit smoking. My friends still smoke. Its hard to tell someone to quit smoking, because base on my experience, its a will issue. No one told me to quit, but i did. My friends has been asking me how i did it, its really a matter of will to decide to just quit smoking. No one can tell you that.
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
27 Jun 09
you are right about that my friend it's all about will and self control and yes no one cant change you except yourself....
congrats my friend you finally made it hope you will be 100% smoke free till the end... I will soon quit well thats what I am saying to myself...
@mermaidivy (15395)
• United States
25 Jun 09
Not that you cannot prevent somebody to quit smoking but I can tell you it is difficult. My hubby, his brother and his brother's wife are all smokers and have been smoking for years. His brother's wife got pregant for almost 9 months now, when she first got pregnant, she kept saying she was quitting, she had to ... so she wanted her husband to quit with her but her husband was not doing it and even asked his wife to smoke together, the wife told me it is hard especially they live together, she can see he smokes, she can smell... so it is just difficult. I think if you want to prevent somebody to smoke, show him/her how to do it first, and smoke lesser, quitting slowly is a way to help. My hubby has just quit last Thursday, I was very happy about that; I don't smoke so he tried not to smoke when he is around me which helped him whole heck of a lot!
Anyway, smoking is a slow killer, I hope you and your friend can quit soon and the other thing is smokes are getting so so expensive, why don't you save it for some other stuff? ;-) Good luck! :-)
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
25 Jun 09
hmmm thats bad if I was the husband I wont risk that if my wife is pregnant at all and if I am planning to have a family of my own I have to make sure that my wife hasnt smoke for 2 years prior to her pregnancy ... and too would stop from smoking I really dont want to ridk the health of my child because of my irresponsibility as a parent....yes you are right just in time I know I can soon...
@charlenmendoza (922)
• Philippines
26 Jun 09
First, you cannot ask someone to stop smoking because for one you are a smoker also. and second a person can stop smoking in his/her freewill. Its also addiction. Its not that easy to stop. The person itself need to have discipline and courage to do it himself or herself without other saying stop.
Second, do it yourself, stop smoking and i think whoever that person will follow to what you want. If you want you can ask each other to be a support system. So both of you can stop smoking.
@HelScream (2822)
• Philippines
27 Jun 09
simply stated but true and that is what I am proposing to my friend as well
now for the determination we have to do it thats what I told my friend and
and for no other reason except to quit the habit .