M.J. Genious or Child Molester? What´s Your Opinion?
By Skills1789
@Skills1789 (462)
Portugal
June 26, 2009 11:44pm CST
First of all i should say that i´m a fan of Michael Since i first saw Thriller...i was probably 3 or 4 years old...so i don´t want people who read the title of this discussion to think i´m a hater.
But the fact is that this legend, that we know mourn, had so much of gifted talent as of polemic man.
My opinin is cautious: i really don´t know if he really molested the kid, but there are two facts that we cannot deny
1 - MJ was not 100% mentally balanced, and some interviews show that as well as some atitudes he had in the last years. I think the source of that comes from the childhood he never had. The pressure his father did on him to be the best denied him the healthy childhood every kid is entitled too.
2 - MJ did pay an astonishing amount of money to the kid´s parents to close the case, and this was extra court.
On the other hand, i am divided, since it could be also a farse, the kid could be actually lying and his parents could have seen his intimacy with MJ as an opportunity for them to earn some easy and dirty money...
I love the man, but my inner feelings about MJ will allways be controversial...
What´s your opinion?
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14 responses
@Savvynlady (3684)
• United States
28 Jun 09
Interesting question. Let me state that if any molesting was done, first off, he would never admit to it; Second of all, I notice his kids here and they seem normal kids, I would think they would have been molested too if that be the case. To be honest, I feel he wasn't. I questioned this time after time, and Skills, you may come back and defute me on what I said, cool, but I have been seriously divided on this. I don't think that MJ was a molester because for the most part, he wasn't. Oh he got beat the Heck out of but he didn't' do that. Plus, I really believe he had folks around that didn't have his best interests at heart. I mean, to go through one case, you settle out of court, that brings that doubt, could he, couldn't? then you have this second case, where he was acquitted, but not without embarrassment and taint to one's name. Now he was a heck of a genius, no doubt.
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@Savvynlady (3684)
• United States
28 Jun 09
Oh yeah, and for the record, Yes, I grew up on his stuff. Watched him on Ed Sullivan, and other shows. Collected Right On Magazine and anything with their picture on it; had a serious crush on MJ; saw them perform at Madison Square Garden when I was ten. like his stuff, but like I said, just divided on that.
@Savvynlady (3684)
• United States
28 Jun 09
Skills,
That's the thing too. He admitted sleeping with the kids. Come on, the average molestor will NOT admit to that. why would he? you are right Controversial, but a musical genius. I would hate to know he was; It would hurt me to know seriously. I am not down with that type of behavior period. but as most of the folks here are doing, we're remembering the music. cause Lord knows socially, he stunk.
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@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
28 Jun 09
Nothing to refute on your response, Savvy... Only the fact that one thing is my heart (he tells me such a genious, such an altruist man could never do such atrocities), and the other is the facts (MJ never looked a balanced man - except, maybe, for the early years and the 80´s - , MJ had a an abusive family, MJ stated he slept with some kids)...al these things together make me feel so d-a-m-n controversial about this man... Don´t think it´s easy for me to acknowledge this...as i said on the discussion´s description, this man as shaped part of what i am, this man inspires my music and he definitely will not die in my heart...
Thanks for your answer, Savvy
Peace
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@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
28 Jun 09
Totally agree with your words, buitzh...
Thanks for your response,
Peace
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@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
27 Jun 09
Skills1789,
Let me ask a poser here, how would you want others to remember you by when you finish your journey here on mother earth, huh?
I think we should always remember that tabloids will always be tabloids and they will never fail to blow things out of proportion especially when it can increase readership or subscriptions. It is just another ugly side of today's commercialism where people in the press will simply act and report irresponsibly.
None of us are perfect and who does not have a past or makes mistakes in one way or another. Yet, I just marvel how sometimes we can so fall into some ploy of others. Look, I am sure you are aware of how countries like the US treat child abusers, molesters and/or pedophiles, do you think MJ will even bother to attend trial and settle the issue simply with an out of court settlement? Is he really SO guilty? As I followed those events I just feel that the other party is just embarking on a gold digging session - say what you like but I feel that if you really exercise some logic and plain common sense you would see that this whole episode is nothing but the works of some schemers. No one is above the law and the US legal system, does not treat child abusers or pedophiles kindly if you know and follow.
Last but not least, let sleeping dogs lie. It is time for them to rest and treat them with some dignity by remembering for their good and contributions to the industry, society and most of all the world.
Take care and have a nice day.
@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
27 Jun 09
Great answer, sky... You brought some insight to my own view about the issue... Thank you for your active mind...
Peace
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@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
27 Jun 09
Debra his father was definitely abusive, that´s well known...
Thanks for your response,
Peace
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@tjades (3591)
• Jamaica
28 Jun 09
Possibly he was both but one has been tried on more than one occasion and has not been proven.
Michael's paying off of these famlies is questionable but more so is the willingness of those parents to accept money for the ills they claim Michael committed against their children.
Its just really a pity that his childhood was so messed up causing him to become fixated on that aspect of his life. That fixation became the devil on his back.
The more I think of it the more I think he was innocent and just fell into the clutches of some greedy people who wanted to take him to the cleaners. Yet at the same time child molestation is such a serious charge it is bound to leave a cloud of uncertainty and mistrust around the accused even if he/she is found not guilty. It sure hurt MJ like hell and sent him into seclusion.
Michael as never really been taken off trial. We still continued to try him and find him guilty or not guilty long after he was declared not guilty. I believe that due to the actions of the parents of those kids, they too must be taken back into the courts of our minds and tried once again.
Michaels child molestation charges are still unproven and questionable but his King of Pop status and the love people have for him is not.
He was a genius. May his soul rest in peace.
@browneyedgirl (1264)
• United States
28 Jun 09
You brought up an interesting point when you said, "Michael has never really been taken off trial." Celebrities live their lives "on trial" by the world...They live in "fishbowls" with their every move seen, scrutinized, judged, etc. How would you act or react in the same situations? He was acquitted. Most people who are acquitted go on to live their lives in peace and the accusations are forgotten. They have not been in Michael's case, and now, he's gone and here they are again...all the specualtions and why's and ifs cropping up again. Let the man rest in peace.
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@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
1 Oct 09
Hi,tj!
Totally agree with your statement. It´s sad to realize that indeed he never really got out of the trial... The speculation, which the media feeds, will haunt MJ memory forever, at least among those who don´t bother to filter what the media imposes and don´t care to digg a little deeper than mere surface.
Peace
Skills
@smartie0317 (1610)
• United States
27 Jun 09
I think people are fond of him, because many people grew up with him and those who didn't, like you, grew up watching him. I never was a fan of him. I liked some songs, thought he danced good, and had great idea, and budgets!, for music videos. In my heart, I believe he has hurt children. He was a very mentally sick who should have gotten help. Even if he didn't molest kids, which I believe, he was very unstable and unable to live. He was debt because he mismanged his money and was raising his own children very strangely.
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@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
27 Jun 09
Agree with you... By the way, nice photo you have... A classic...
Peace
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@baldypriest (338)
• United States
27 Jun 09
I think this is too difficult to just say one way or the other. I think he put out some decent music in the past, but as for his personal life, I have no idea. Maybe I'm better off not knowing, since it could go either way.
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@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
28 Jun 09
Yes, baldy, it´s difficult to say something about a matter we ignore...when that happens the best thing to do is to not speculate, i think...definitely the most wise decision...
Thanks for your response,
Peace
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@browneyedgirl (1264)
• United States
27 Jun 09
Geniuses molest children too. Most child molesters were molested as children themselves. That should make everyone wonder about Michael's childhood-if he really molested those children. The fact remains, regardless, that Michael Jackson was a phenomenal talent!
@ClassyCat (1214)
• United States
29 Jun 09
I just want to repeat what I heard on a Barbara Walters' interview ,that the reason that he paid off the family of those who accused him, because he was emotionally at his breaking point, and even becoming physically ill. Michael was not a strong person emotionally, and could not handle all of the gossip - name calling - and lies about him.
Even the one boy's dad, who has been separated from his wife, said that it was all just a scam to get money - - - and when he paid them off, then came another situation just like it.
Sure is, and was, sad. Hope all things will go as he would have wanted them to for his kids, and I'm glad that he put 'Janet' over his estate and affairs.
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@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
3 Jul 09
That info about the boy´s dad was precious, Classy...thank you...
Peace
@apples99 (6556)
• United States
28 Jun 09
I think he was a really talented artist and a great performer, but as for the other negative allegations I dont have much of an opinion on that, becuse he was acquitted and none of us know or will ever know if those allegations are true, so I prefer not to judge him, but instead remember him for his great contributions to music, and the music industry, no matter what the negative press has been we cant deny his talents even if your not a big fan of his style of music, we still cant deny his amazing talent and showmanship through the years, thats what I prefer to think about instead of all the negative issues and press surrounding his life.
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@browneyedgirl (1264)
• United States
28 Jun 09
I agree with you completely. The world has lost an amazing talent. There's no telling what more Michael might have given us had he not passed.
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@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
28 Jun 09
Much respect, apples...very good answer...
Peace
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@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
1 Oct 09
Hi, Brown!
Well, he was not at the top of his career, that´s for sure. But one thing it´s for sure, as well...you can never say what a genious will do next...
Peace
Skills
@android (895)
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8 Jul 09
Yes he was troubled and may have suffered with some mental difficulties, probably due to the nature of his life. I personally think he is innocent, he missed out on his childhood himself and I think that's why he had such a strong connection with children - I firmly believe that they were trying to exploit this fact and were just after his money. He was one of the richest men in the world at the time, if not the richest.
@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
14 Jul 09
The gold digger issue, definitelly agree with you, android...
Peace
Skills
@o0jopak0o (6394)
• Philippines
27 Jun 09
he is both. he is a great artist but also a child molester.
i share your idea about why he settled out of court. why settle when your not guilty.
touching a kids body in bed even if its not their "special parts" can also be called child molestation.
and he really admitted that he sleep with kids in his bed
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@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
27 Jun 09
I can´t say categorically that he was in deed a child molester...it was never proven...only two people know the truth, one of them is the suposably molested kid and the other isn´t among us anymore...
Thanks for your response,
Peace
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@Bearballew (1148)
• United States
28 Jun 09
I am a true fan. Never had a bad word to say about the man. Here are my thoughts: No matter what he was or wasn't off stage, he WAS a GENIOUS! Who sold more records than this man? Who effected a whole generation CROSS color barriers? Who was the FIRST black man to be on MTV? Who sold out shows in seconds?? Nubmers don't lie. However... children do. I'm not going to say he did do anything inappropriate to a child unless it happened to me or he, himself told me he did it. Yes, he was lonely, yes he was robbed of childhood. Did he pay off the kids because he was guilty, or because he really didn't want to put the kid through a trial? I would take the money if my kid was lying. If my kid was telling the truth, there is NO ONE I wouldn't put on trial to bring to justice. No amount of money could buy my silence if something really had happened to my kid. So, my thoughts are the parents were abusers of the system and owe Mr. Jackson an apology for false accusations. He records reads "Innocent". We should go with that.
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@browneyedgirl (1264)
• United States
28 Jun 09
I absolutely agree with everything you're saying here. There is no way that I would back down if someone hurt my chld. There is no amount of money that could make me go away and/or "give it up" if someone hurt my child. I would pursue that person and the truth until my dying day!
@Savvynlady (3684)
• United States
28 Jun 09
I'm with you Bearballew on that parents part. Particularly in the second trials. To me, it was the momma behind it all trying to get a buck I really believe that and that was found out too. I cannot speak so much for the first one, but the second one most definitely. I will say this.
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@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
28 Jun 09
"No amount of money could buy my silence if something really happened to my kid"...very good point...nothing more to add...
Thanks for your active mind, Bear
Peace
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@dhjioisce (2)
• Philippines
27 Jun 09
both.
but that didn't matter to me coz he is a greater musician than a child molester
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
27 Jun 09
That is a rather sick thing to say...if you believe he was a child molester...but his music made it alright? How can you say that?
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@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
27 Jun 09
I respect everyone´s opinion, dh, but yours doesn´t make sense at all for me...
Thanks for your response, though
Peace
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@ll1pl0x1ll (30)
• United States
27 Jun 09
People will remember for the great racial barriers crossed and him changing pop music forever; not the bad.
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@Skills1789 (462)
• Portugal
27 Jun 09
"It don´t matter if you´re Black or White"... ;)
Peace
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@wookieekyut (673)
• Philippines
7 Oct 09
I don't believe he did that. He loved children. I think the kid and his parents just wanted money.
That case had caused too much stress and pain to him. Poor MJ.
No matter what, I loved him.