Feminists please read: Why are men more successful than women
By AngNicholas
@AngNicholas (14)
United States
June 29, 2009 7:30pm CST
I intend no chauvinist biases in this discussion
Yes, I confess to being a man, but I am fully in agreement with the fact that men and women are of equal intellect, and when in high school, girls even seemed to be more mature than guys.
Why then, does the glass ceiling exist, or why did men climb to the top and exclude women in the first place?
Outside of the rat race, why are philosophers, composers, mathematicians and physicists, and painters, (one exception are writers), always men?
To me, it seemed like during the later years of highschool, girls seemed to lose their drive to strive, compared to boys, even though they still took the runaway prize for maturity between the two sexes.
Why is that so?
I don't want some sort of evolutionary jargon about female's roles in rearing children and males going out and bringing back food fo the table
I want some serious discussions involving neurochemistry and structural differences in the brain that seem to cause this strange imbalance.
Again, make no mistake about me, for I am in no way being chauvinistic. I just want to bring this somewhat avoided issue to the table for discussion.
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4 responses
@khayshenz (1384)
• United States
30 Jun 09
I don't think women lose their drive at all. Remember, historically, women were NOT treated like equal. So historically, even if they were smart - they were not allowed to go to school, to become scientist, etc. I mean, dude, Marie Curie is a great scientist, but do you know who she is?
Even if women are now "allowed" to do what historically they're not allowed to do, as women of the new generation, we're still affected by such things. A lot of men are still finding offense when women are at a higher rank in the office or anywhere.
I'm a woman engineer, graduated in 2006 and finished engineering school in 4 years. When I applied for jobs - a lot of those who have interviewed me were men. That was discouraging to me (and I think that's another reason why. It's tough to picture "me" in that position when it rarely exist!). One man who interviewed me said he didn't think that I would succeed in this profession because I'm a woman. Then he went on to say "do you wanna become an engineering technician instead." I said no thanks. And walked out.
So - I don't think there's any difference in the brain whatsoever.
@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
30 Jun 09
I can see where you are coming from, and I do not see you as being a chauvinist, but I will say that since the beginning of time, yes, there has always been bias in the workplace. Women never seem to climb up the ladder as men do, and I believe that it is because of the stigma that men hold about female employees. I am a woman for the record, so don't think that I am siding with men on this, but it is a fact that women do not have the kind of salaries that men have and that we do not have the kind of positions that men have. Men, not all of them, believe that a woman's place is in the home, and that because she has children, a husband, and she has other priorities that she will not be very productive in the workplace. That is simply not true. Many women can be as intelligent and as productive as men, and many women have some really good ideas that trumps a lot of the ideas that many men have, but since it seems to be a man's world, and I see no woman as US President yet, it may still be a long battle to get full equality in the work place. It takes time, and many women working together to say that we want the treatment that men are getting.
@jpso138 (7851)
• Philippines
30 Jun 09
Well probably because during the early times, women were more of for home rather than for office. They are often called housewives since they manage the home rather than work in the office. But I think women also have something to show given the chance. In fact, there are now women presidents. So it is just a matter of time.
@sauman2006 (125)
• India
30 Jun 09
If you are citing the examples of philosophers, writers and painters of the yore you should realize that they hail from a period when the development of women was stifled and a lot of them worked towrds the emancipation of women . If you look at today's world the chasm between men and women is getting ever narrower . I am a marketing professional . Yesterday i was reading one article in the business daily where they conclusively women are better than men at marketing .Because they are more sensitive and creative and their brains are compartmented in a proper way which makes them excel in multitasking unlike men whose left and right side are nor properly demarcated so we are not that effecient at that particulr job . Yes on an average there seem to be more successful men than women but then again the devil is in the details . On an average there are always more ment than women .
Yes there are social compulsions for women at least in my country . Here a career oriented women who is ready to forgo her social affliations is looked down upon , which is not the case for men . You can only compare between the two genders when there is a level playing field . To say men are more successful than women is a gross misunderstanding on your part