Gambling is bad, bad for who?
By scheng1
@scheng1 (24649)
Singapore
July 1, 2009 12:49am CST
Russia is taking action to close down casinos for good in the big cities. Casinos are allowed only in four far-flung areas, including Siberia. This will cause more than 400,000 people to lose their jobs. In the current recession, adding 400,000 people to the jobless pool will cause the economy to sink deeper.
While most people agree that gambling is bad, sometimes we never stop to think about the effect of gambling. Gambling is bad, bad for who?
Gambling is definitely good for the employees in the casino and hotels, the shareholders of the casino, the winners. But bad for those who lose money, and their families.
What do you think, gambling is bad for who?
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14 responses
@acisMahrje (254)
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1 Jul 09
Gambling is bad for who doesn't like and good for who likes it. Gambling is taking risk and some people like or love to take risk. if you have enough money and know when to stop then gambling is fine. People loose money really bad because people just don't see there limits. Its only a game of possibility, if people gamble only to enjoy ..its there choice. We spend money to enjoy many things in life where we only spend, but with gambling you are enjoying the risk and might as well win.LOL.
recently in my country a person lost huge money in casino, he then kidnapped a girl and brutally murdered even after collecting money from the parent, this incident has totally shocked the nation. So casino is bad. But some people gets lucky and makes quick money. so its good. it pays huge tax to government so good for government, good for country good for country people. People gets jobs so its good as you mentioned. And yes good for lucky people and bad for others...
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
3 Jul 09
Hi AcisMahrje, I'm not from China, I'm from Singapore.
I had visited China a few times for holiday. During some of the trips to remote areas, we witnessed the prisoners doing the roadwork. I think that is a great idea, since the prisoners are effectively eating and drinking on the expenses of the taxpayers, they should contribute to the economy.
@russso (1693)
• Philippines
1 Jul 09
It's bad if you get addicted to it. Not only are you affected, but your family as well. My family owns horses that are used to race. We have a house near the race track and some of my uncles prefer to live here. They were helping out with the family business, but my grandmother didn't know that they were already so hooked with the races and the family business was losing money and all that stuff.
These uncles became so dependent on the game - it's what they eat, breathe, and live. The sad part is their wives were influenced by this too... And I got cousins who don't go to school because their parents don't have time for them. My mom and some of my other relatives offered to help, but it did them no good. They would borrow money from us, saying that they need to pay utility bills and such, but we found out that the money was just used to gamble. It's a sad reality.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
1 Jul 09
Hi Russso, so sorry to hear that your uncles and aunts are hooked to gambling. Very rare for the both parents to addict to gambling, especially horse racing. Women usually love less thrilling form of gamble.
If they have put as much energy into taking care of the horses, that will be a blessing.
Sometimes gambling is part of society. Some businessmen do business with those they can gamble together. In some countries, where bribery is illegal, the only way you can bribe someone is to lose your money in a gamble.
@russso (1693)
• Philippines
1 Jul 09
That's right. It's legal in a lot of countries because governments can generate revenue from it. I think it's the same reason why we got casinos and stuff. Gambling is a recreational activity. It could be a good outlet to relax. It just gets destructive when it becomes an addiction and obsession + when a lot of money is involved in it. Really, everything must be done in moderation.
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@GemmaR (8517)
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1 Jul 09
I think gambling is only bad when you lose control of yourself. It can be healthy at times to go and spend a little money with the thought of maybe winning even more back, but when it gets to the point where you can't even go a day without a little gambling, then it becomes unhealthy. Some people lose all of the money they earn on gambling, which means that they don't have enough money to pay the bills or even buy food for themselves and their families.
Also, many people who become addicted to gambling also turn to drinking when they don't have a good day and don't win a penny. This means that it could be physically unhealthy as well as mentally unhealthy for the person.
This being said, it can be fun sometimes, as long as you manage to keep control of yourself whilst doing it.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
1 Jul 09
Hi GemmaR, most gamblers view a trip to the casino as a short vacation. They just want to unwind, and enjoy the facilities in the casino.
I see many retirees in the casino behaving like kids, they are so happy to see the bonus game or whatever. It is an enjoyable hobby for them. When one of their friends win the small jackpot, they are as noisy as kids.
It is true that gambling is bad, not because of the activity itself, but because of the gambler. Take away the money factor, it is just a game of probability.
@mermaidivy (15394)
• United States
1 Jul 09
I think it depends the level of gambling, it is a hobby for some of the people, they like to do it for fun, I think it wis not harmful as long as it is always under their self control like if you prepare 500 bucks to gamble for thenight, if you lose it,stop it and don't chase, if you won, take off because chasing could be a BIG trouble for them...
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
1 Jul 09
Hi Mermaidivy, majority of the gamblers are able to take things easy, and just treat a visit to the casino as an outing.
Sometimes they will compute their losses, divide by the number of hours there, and come to an averge hourly rate. Spending $10 an hour is not that big an amount, considering that most of them forsake the expensive overseas trip for a short visit to casino.
It is true that some people just cannot get over the addiction. These are the ones with inflated egos, and think that they are the gods, and deserve to win every time.
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@hsofyan (3446)
• Jakarta, Indonesia
1 Jul 09
Yes, I agree with you. Gambling is bad for the losers and not restrained. But not so bad for the losers and restrained. Because of limited value and have been calculated. Gambling is considered bad because it is speculative. In fact a lot of speculative activity which is not bad.
Bad for whom?
This question is difficult to be answered honestly. Because win or lose should be suspected before.
Many activities that could result in bad. People may choose to participate or not. It is a big mistake if to torment the family.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
1 Jul 09
Hi Hsofyan, come to think of it, gambling in the casino is much better than gambling in the stock market.
I like your observation that "Because of limited value and have been calculated."
Most gamblers only gamble away the money they can afford to lose. But many investors (or gamblers) in the stock market can make use of margin to buy more than they can afford, and when the shares fall sharply, they ended up with much more debts, than the gamblers in the casino.
Many retirees like to gamble, and their family members can't do anything. The retirees are so bored with too much time on hand, and they do show restraints in their gambling habit.
Sigh, sometimes people are hypocrites, when the gambler wins the big jackpot, nobody will tell him that gambling is bad. Everyone, including non-gamblers, hope to share in his newly-founded wealth.
@eplove001 (2)
• India
1 Jul 09
Casino games and poker legally are only considered gambling if real money is involved.Some issues here ththough, are that "pretend" gambling type games could easily easily be mistaken for the real thing in certain settings.. I knew somebody who was suspended from school for doing a roulette game in the cafeteria- even after he explained that it was all just for fun, with no money involved. Or, some people who are predisposed to addictions could easily cross the line from "all for fun" to the real deal and end up as compulsive gamblers. I would definitely, if I were you, proceed with caution, , but still enjoy your rounds of poker.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
1 Jul 09
Haha Eplove, I do not even know how to play poker! One day I shall learn, or maybe not. I am those kinds of mathematics crazy fellows, who like to play around with statistics and formulas.
If I learn any game, I am more concerned with using permutations to calculate the probability of winning.
I can't sit still playing the slot machines too, always like to walk around, and observes all the expressions on gamblers' faces! It is very fun, there are a few million ways that people frown.
@youless (112582)
• Guangzhou, China
2 Jul 09
I think gambling is bad for most people. The staff who work in the casino can work in another field. If there is no casino in the world, the life still goes on. The gamblers lose everything including their family. Gambling is not only bad for the gamblers, but also their families.
I love China
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
2 Jul 09
Hi Youless, people gamble all the time, with or without casino.
Since you are living in China, you will know all the different ways that people gamble even without casino.
I remembered the time when the Shanghai stock market crashed, because the people ganbled, and pushed the price too high.
Even when I visited China (different cities), I saw many people played poker, and mahjong. I did not dare to ask how much money they used to gamble.
Sometimes when people gamble in the casino, they may not realise that all their actions are captured on the cameras. They cannot play dirty without the knowledge of the casino management.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
2 Jul 09
Hi Ahmadsosama, welcome to mylot. Just an advice to you, since you are new here. Please try to write longer posts, at least five to seven lines long. The system in mylot rewards us for making longer post. One long post can earn much more than ten shorter post.
Back to the discussion, actually Russia is very contradicting. Russia did not want to close all the casinos, they just close the casinos in the city, and move it to other parts of the country. So, gambling is still legal, yet Russia is making more than 400,000 people jobless, at a time when the economy is so bad.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
1 Jul 09
Gambling addiction is bad, not gambling. People who can't control themselves are making gambling, drinking and other pleasures off limits for those who can enjoy them without excess. Shutting down gambling will cause a lot of damage--in my state there is no gambling so people go to neighboring states to do it. My state is losing billions. We are going to shut down libraries, cut funds to food pantries for the poor and drastically cut down mental health funding all because the state government won't allow gambling.
Sometimes I think we should take our state and federal officials and beat them until they get some common sense into their heads and quit letting minority factions like gambling addicts dictate public policy.
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@rickiely (257)
• Australia
2 Jul 09
Gambling is not only bad financially but also mentally, emotionally & socially. Take this for example : A man loses .. lets say $2,000, first, it's a financial problem obviously which could possibly lead to divorces or break-ups (SOCIALLY) then theres the emotional breakdowns. (EMOTIONALLY/MENTALITY) And it just doesn't affect the gambler, it affects the people around him, his friends & family. I can see why gambling is such a big fuss in some cities but honestly, it's the gamblers decision to gamble or not. I say don't ban casinos, even though i don't gamble myself.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
2 Jul 09
Hi Rickiely, yes, gambling is bad when the gamblers cannot control his gambling habits and keep on gambling.
Once I took up a course in Purple Star Astrology (a form of fortune telling), we were analyzing some life charts. Our teacher made some insightful comment. He said that those who always lost in casino, right from the start, those are the ones who would never be addicted to gambling. Since they lost and keep on losing, they knew that they would not win, so they gamble lesser.
Those who won and keep winning when they were new at gambling, those are the ones who would get addicted. The most dangerous kind are those who win big sometimes, and lose all sometimes. Those are the ones who will never quit.
@daliaj (5674)
• India
2 Jul 09
I agree with what you are saying. There are lots of people who addcited to gambling. If they use their brain they don't want to go for gambling. They participate in gambling because they are addicted to it. A lot of families are becoming poor and house less as a part of gambling and loosing money. We also ahve to look into this issue.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
2 Jul 09
Hi Daliaj, actually most people are addicted to the game itself, not the money part. In Chinese culture, many people are addicted to mahjong, the game itself. Some can even play for 24 hours.
Many gamblers are addicted to one particular game. Some like blackjack, some like slot machines. Most people like the atmosphere in the casino, where they can shout and curse, and scream for joy.
Actually most people do not become poor because of gambling. Only a few stupid gamblers are bad losers, who think that if they continue to play, they will win. Fortunately those are not our parents, otherwise we will suffer financially.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
1 Jul 09
Hi Andiel, based on moral values and religious values, gambling is bad.
But in reality, things are not always so simple. A casino has to pay tax to the government, and a casino provides jobs to many employees. Some are directly involve in casino operation, but most are not. Those cleaners and chambermaids are not directly involve in casino operation, but they are employed because people who go to the casino need to stay in the hotel.
That's why government wants to keep their people from gambling in the casino, yet want the casino to stay open. The taxes paid by casino every year is a big sum of money, which government can use to help their poor and honest citizens
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@uloveteja (41)
• India
1 Jul 09
It is definetly bad for those who play regularly..it is the main reason for the reduction of economy of jobless people...
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
2 Jul 09
Hi Uloveteja, welcome to mylot. Please learn to write longer, at least seven lines long. The system in mylot pays more for one long post, than for ten shorter posts.
Actually those who play regularly are ok, they are not addicted. Those are the ones who know that they will come back next month, and so will not put in their life savings into the casino.
Those who rarely have a chance to play are more dangerous. They have the tendency to charge to their credit cards, and used up all the life savings. They think that if they do not win now, they will never recoup their losses, so they keep on playing, even for continuously 24 hours.
I had seen one such crazy gambler. He was sitting in the same position (slot machine) on the first day, and the same position on the second day. He looked drained, and refused to give up the slot machine to anyone. Even when he walked to the washroom, his card was still inside the slot machine, and he used autoplay. Very stupid!
@babieblu3106 (10)
• United States
1 Jul 09
i believe that gambling could be alot of fun. that is if people could understand that it was just for fun not a life style or choice. ive witnessed people go basically insane over a little thing like gambling and ive seen people not care at all if they lost or if they won. i think it all depends on the person wether gambling is good or bad
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
2 Jul 09
Hi Babieblu, gambling is fun. And guess what is better than gambling? Watching the faces of the winners and losers.
Some people are desperate losers. Those are the ones worth watching, their facial expression changes so fast and so many times in a minute.
I like to pretend playing the slot machine, and then to watch those gamblers. Very shocking to see those serene grandmothers turn into a gambling monsters within a minute.