How are you with your 'body image'?
@owlwings (43910)
Cambridge, England
July 1, 2009 12:52pm CST
Why is it that women always seem to be more dissatisfied with their body image than men? They are just as good people and men just accept them as they are.
Do we ever tell you straight out that you are too fat/thin or too small/tall? NO ... unless we happen to be your brother or something (in which case hanging, drawing and quartering is not a threat!)
What gets me is that women are much more into the 'personality' of other people than their 'looks' yet, when it comes to themselves, they go on and on about how they are not the right 'shape' and 'size'.
Men choose a partner for what she IS (not for what she would like to be) and tend to STAY with the ones that are happy the way they are. If you are constantly saying "I wish I could lose 20lb (or whatever)" or "Does my bum look big in this?" you are committing social suicide. Is this what women really want?
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
3 Jul 09
I've read a few responses and I wish that when I was younger I too had confidence. In my time we all'had' to have a 24" waist and hips just 'had' to be 36". I was a 26 waist and 38 hips and my eldest sister scarred me for life by calling me fat. she still calls me fat and I have to say that now I am.
I will not go into boring details but the saddest thing of my life was even when my husband told me how beautiful I was I just didn't believe him. I lacked self worth. And now, when I look at the photos of myself as a young teenager, young woman and young mother and even at 50, I really was more than pretty - I was beautiful but my sister and mother had taken that away from me from I was a little girl.
I tell my beautiful daughter how beautiful she is and I tell my GD's how beautiful they are and my GS's how handsome they are. No one ever told me and I honestly thought that I was ugly.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
3 Jul 09
How sad to have been put down so much, Cynthiann, that you couldn't believe your husband when he told you the truth! The fact is that not everyone can be called pretty but every one of us has some beauty, which is sometimes only visible to the right people - the ones that matter, of course.
One of the best ways of finding a person's beauty is to call it out by telling them they are beautiful (or handsome, of course, in the case of boys). Now I come to think of it, I don't remember anyone telling me I was handsome and I seem to have always thought of myself as rather plain and gauche.
I do remember how "36-24-36" used to be called 'the perfect figure' and I remember how I used to look in puzzlement at the stars in the magazines (this was in the '50s when I knew little about girls) and think that they were really way too curvy ... certainly not fat but, in my eyes, at least, somewhat well-endowed. Ordinary people - real people - weren't like that at all! These days, I believe, those measurements would be rather out of fashion and many would rather emulate the grandfather clock than the hour-glass!
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
5 Jul 09
Blessings and hugs ;) What is your son? A butcher? LOLOL
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
4 Jul 09
Yes, it was a nightmare of a chilhood but that is past and I am over it. Just wish that I had known that I was beautiful. It is different now. I met a male friend a few days ago that I had not seen for a long while and he told me how pretty I looked with my new hairstyle and I accepted the compliment because I know that my inside beauty is now showing outside with age. Does that make sense? I have confidence now but not then. Thank you for your kind words, I appreciated your response.
My son said a few months ago that if I lost 20lbs he would put me up for auction!!!! Meaning that I am looking good at this time of my life. Blessings.
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@tuckersheri (1327)
• United States
5 Jul 09
I am 135lbs I want to be 115lbs. I have been working out and eating less. I was 148lbs and I lost about 15 lbs in like three month. I working hard to my goal but not there yet. I am not happy with my current weight but happy with the weight I lost. It has been a struggle because I hate cellite on my but and thighs and the pudge on my stomache. I am determined to make my goal but am carful how I do it so I don't gain all my weight back.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
5 Jul 09
Your height matters quite a bit when you are quoting your weight. 135 sounds quite acceptable for an average height of 5'6"+. It's also to do with the distribution, of course, and the right kind of exercise can certainly do a lot to help there.
In the end, though, it's something to do with adjusting your own perception of what you want to be towards what you are. There is no need to be complacent or uncaring. If you are very much over or under weight for your height (according to recommended figures), then it is certainly worth doing something about it in the way of dieting or exercise (mostly the latter). On the other hand, if your partner doesn't want you any different, then why should you worry?
@pumpkinjam (8768)
• United Kingdom
4 Jul 09
I think a lot of people, men and women, have something which thwy would like to change. I would like to lose the "baby fat" around my tummy because I personally find it not only unsightly but also uncomfortable. However, I want to do that for me. Otherwise, I look fantastic! I feel the same about myself as everyone else. That is that personality is more important. I am a great person :) in lots of ways. I think more women should think that way (but only if they are great, I mean I know some people who are really not great and seem to think they are). People will always have things they want to change but if they have those things as "a thing" and not as a "I need to spend 8 days a week at the gym and go on every diet in the world to lose weight" then that should be fine.
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@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
5 Jul 09
I think that changing your body shape because you (yourself) have an issue with it and it's actually uncomfortable is fine. What I think is not right is having some kind of image which really belongs to someone else because you are not (genetically) that shape. We are not all Aphrodites or Adonises nor are we all models or athletes.
Because I know you a little (and your sisters and mother as well), I know that you are exactly what you say - a great person and someone it would be great to meet and spend some time with!
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@littleowl (7157)
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1 Jul 09
Hi Owlwings, that is a brilliant way of putting things..for women I think it is because the media keep turning out skinny women even of 55yrs old and it makes not only young but middle aged women feel the same. Yes I wouldn't mind losing a few pounds but am happy with and in myself, it is the character of the person I always look at not what they look like just as you have said..guess women don't think men see them the same way...littleowl
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Jul 09
OK then, why is it that at age 50+ and a wee bit (but not grossly) overweight, I get a LOT less male attention (looks, whistles, etc.) than I used to? Just saying that a LOT of guys start with the appearance and get to know the person afterwards (or not)...
That said, I do tend to look in the mirror and wonder "who is that middle aged woman and what has she done with my body". But I don't go around asking men (or anybody) does this make me look fat and nonsense like that. I make up my own mind on clothing choices and I'm (about 95%) OK with the way I look... I'd like to lose weight but I also realize that it's up to me to either do it or not. I don't go around complaining about my weight to people.
Anyway, I don't know what women really want. I'm kind of atypical...
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
1 Jul 09
Perhaps it's just because there are less unattached males about who see themselves as your peers than there used to be. They are there, I'm sure, Dawn (though they may not be desirable in a number of ways ... more 'complications', the older we get ... that's another story) and they may have found that the wrinkles in their fingers and the lack of breath make it harder to wolf whistle.
Yes, I know that guys do start with the looks, especially when younger. The sensible ones learn to use the eyes more as they get older ... I mean eye contact, of course!
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Jul 09
Naw, they're all looking at younger women. lol
But seriously, yep lots of complications, and not just marriages and children, but attitudes, health problems, etc. etc.
PS the joke is that the sensible ones are already all taken! :-)
@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
2 Jul 09
For some reason, my husband is more into my body image than I am. At least once a week, he has to tell me that I look 4 months pregnant. I realize that I 'm 74 years old and am shrinking in height. It doesn't bother me. Perhaps his remarks are in retaliation to my comments about how skinny he is. I'm concerned about his health. He doesn't eat enough to keep up his strength. Maybe if I had a smart remark ready, we could laugh off his comments.
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@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
29 Jan 10
Hello owl,
I realize this discussion is old but wanted to add my 2 cents worth. You stated that women are into the "personality" of other people and while that may be true, you get a group of young women together and they will talk about other women. They can be quite vicious in there statements. You get a group of skinny/thin women together on a beach and look out, because I guarentee you they aren't nice about anyone who is slightly overweight and if they are more than slighty overweight well lets just say women can be very mean. This stems more from a younger crowd and I think that as women get older they get a little more forgiving of others, but the damage was done many years before. That's my 2 cents worth. :) Happy mylotting.
@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
3 Jul 09
I'm pretty ticked at mine right now...it seems to be falling apart at a fast speed...first it was my weight, ok started working on that...then the teeth, ok their having to be pulled one after another. Then my back goes nuts if I so much as lift a small box and now my knee has decided it isn't going to work anymore. I wish they had one of those trade in centers where I could go in and get new parts. Most of the time I'm ok with my body and my looks but when everything starts falling apart then I start getting upset.
[b]~~AT PEACE WITHIN~~
**STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS**[/b]
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
1 Jul 09
Women are women, they are all the same universally. They are all beauty conscious regardless of where they come from. Women likes to look sexy and beautiful. Every woman should like and value themselves. Someone who is comfortable with her sensuality conveys a message of confidence. Women can never detach themselves from wanting to look good and beautiful. That is their inborn traits. I believe every women wants to look good for their men and competition is stiff among women to beautify themselves for self satisfaction if not to melt a man's heart.
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
1 Jul 09
I would have said that you were putting the male point of view entirely if I hadn't just looked at your profile. I agree that every woman should like and value themselves (but many don't, which is the point of this discussion, really!).
I suppose that, yes, it is (and should be) the women who attract their men, rather than the other way round. Ultimately, the object is to find a suitable father for their child - even though, these days, nothing could be farther from many women's minds - and so it should be the female who chooses, not the man.
Do women, therefore, want to be other than they are not because of their own body image but because they are looking to attract the 'right' male?
@p1kef1sh (45681)
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1 Jul 09
I don't know Owlwings. Women are very hard on themselves. Personally I would like to lose the pit that some might call "tummy", but all in all I am quite happy with the lump that is me. Maybe we men are not expected to try too hard. Does my bum look big in these new trousers?
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
1 Jul 09
No, friend, I am guessing that your bum is sagging a bit and is overshadowed by the pot. I have that trouble too but have been encouraged somewhat by women who say (honestly, I have to believe) that they don't mind about the belly at all ... though they do like something firm to grab behind.
I think it takes Allsorts and if you are looking for one with the blue bobbles on, then that is what you will get ... if you dip your hand in the packet often enough (and like liquorice however it comes).
@savypat (20216)
• United States
1 Jul 09
I want you to know I have no problem in this area at all. WE have very few mirrors in the house and unless I am tricked into looking at one and seeing my Grandmother there, the problem just doesn't exist.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
1 Jul 09
Hello Owl. Oh, if only every man really did see a woman or mate as you do. All are not as gracious and accepting. However, it is our own perception of ourselves that counts the most. Females do seem to focus and worry more about their looks than do men. Part of it is how we were raised, or remarks peers made in school, the expectations of younger men when we begin to date. Some is media influence, but most comes from "inside" the woman herself.
As I have gotten older, I am fine "in my own skin" and no longer worry about how I look. I am happy with myself as I look, and that is a wonderful feeling, a sort of freedom, even.
What great discussions you do start.
Karen
@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
11 Jan 10
Hello, Owlwings. Well, I'm short, but I like that, because people assume I'm not very strong, so always offer to carry and lift things for me. I'm too heavy, but I choose clothes that flatter my shape rather than try to squueze into a smaller size because 'no way am I buying a size 18.'
As it happens, I have lost almost 2 stones over the last six months without even trying. We've had a very hot autumn in Spain, so I've done a lot of swimming, and haven't felt like eating anything other than fruit and salads. I like the slimmer me, but I was okay with the fatter me as well. Worrying about your weight and how you look gives you wrinkles, which make you look older. Be happy with yourself, and others will be happy with you as well - that's what I say.
@dreamr802 (985)
• United States
1 Jul 09
The problem is Hollywood. It gives every woman that fear that they don't look good unless they are anorexic thin. How many normal/heavy big names are there in Hollywood? Not many at all. I mean look at when they did Hairspray. They took a random girl for the part and not an already movie star because there aren't any heavy girls that look like they are in high school in Hollywood. Now don't get me wrong I love the main girl from Hairspray but yeah my big issue is with Hollywood saying you aren't pretty unless you are thin.
@positiveminded1977 (7072)
• India
2 Jul 09
Aren't you generalizing a bit? I have come across quite a few men who are not satisfied with how they look. :) As for women, their looks do matter to men. However much they protest, a flat belly and a fair unblemished skin do matter a lot to men. What man would date an overweight woman although she has a heart of gold? Come on, why else do you think women bother to "change" themselves so much? They need to attract a man. Men don't get attracted to ugly fat women.
I am a woman, and I give a damn about my looks. That's because I have decided that I don't want a man in my life. A few years back, when I was...uh ... "Man Hunting" I was really bothered about my looks. It almost drove me insane. I am quite at peace with myself right now. LOL!!
Cheers and happy Mylotting
@MisterPlus (1915)
• Philippines
2 Jul 09
I used to have a beautiful body . I worked hard for it. But mow I hardly do my abs exercises and I got a big tummy now. I want to gain back the glory of having a beautiful body. I need to work hard again to achieve it. I know some exercises to get it back and I will start doing it again. This is for my health too.
@AnnieOakley1 (5596)
• Canada
2 Jul 09
Why? Because society encourages and puts models that are teeny weeny, too skinny, no boobs, anorexic, bulemic on pedestals and admires them worldwide.
I don't fall for that stuff. I am who I am, like it or lump it. When I used to ask my husband in the beginning those types of stupid questions, he said he didn't care, because he loved me the way I am. So, I have gone with that and just wear what is comfortable and what I think looks nice.
@mermaidivy (15395)
• United States
2 Jul 09
Hi Owlwings, I don't know; I guess it is how women are like, no one is perfect, we tend to pursue better especially for our "body image".
"Men choose a partner for what she IS (not for what she would like to be) and tend to STAY with the ones that are happy the way they are." - Couple days ago, my husband and I went to a market and I noticed he looked lots of girls and stared at their boobs until they left... that made me really upset... couple days after, I asked him a very silly question - "Woud you love me more if I had a bigger boobs?" he said the same thing as you said!
I guess why I always want better of something about my body is because I want him to think it is better, does it make any sense to you?
@divkris (1156)
• India
2 Jul 09
Well i'I think it is the primitive instincts. I got to know from many of my friends (guyz and galz) that men are attracted to the shape and figure. So, probably women think that their man will desert them if they do not please him with the kind of shape and figure he likes!!
BTW not all men prefer their woman to have a perfect personality - there are many who want their wife to have the perfect figure! - I'm not joking