the climate change conspiracy

Wasn't there an EPA report that was hidden until after the Cap and Tax was to be voted on??? As far as Climate change goes, one just has to look at the climate latley and sunspots then read between the lines of the ultimate goal of those that are for it to see. Not saying we need to let businesses go unchecked but at the same time the crap they have been predicting since early 70's has not come true and here in Pa it's still barely warm enough to swim.

I read an article recently in a Science Fiction magazine putting forward the theory that we were in a warming trend long before human carbon emissions had any effect on the environment. Of course, I have read what the other side thinks too. Not too long ago a friend of mine who is known for researching his stuff really thoroughly told me he will be writing a blog saying more or less the same thing, that the sun is just in a warming trend. Will be very interesting to read. As for me, it is clear that the climate is changing. There are measurable increases in temperature all over the globe (from what I've read - haven't personally taken any measurements lol). But what is causing it? Too many opinions on the subject and I'm not really qualified to say. But I do hope my friend is right about the panic mongers being wrong.

Climate Change is a global phenomenon and that is the whole truth, we should not deny it because it is happening right now. What we should do now to minimize the effect of the worsening condition of the global warming is be aware in our environment, we should take actions right now before its too late. I think we are now being punished by our mother Earth because we continually abused the environment and neglected what God gave us. Right now I am super aware of the climate change, the fluctuating weather is distressing but this is the reality we must endure now.

I am not quite sure what you question is Is it will there be a climate change is the earth in sense changing its seasons and locations then if this is what you speak of yes it is happening how fast no one knows but one only has to look at history and see it will happen. History has shown different shifts in the earth it is normal to think this will eventually evolve into something anew. I mean it could be pretty egotistical to think what we say something is someway and it is just to stay that way the universe the world it is a miracle a force of its own and will do what is is inclined to doing we are only to sit back and watch whatever as it happens and hope we will still be around when it is all done

Watch "an inconvenient fiction" on information TV. The main crux of the argument is that human induced climate change is only having a slight effect - with most of the change being cause by natural factors.

Some thoughts for this discussion. Is it possible for us to know every weather pattern that has ever happened on this planet? If you believe in creation than the Earth is between 10,000 and 14,000 years old. If you believe in evolution then the earth is billions of years old. To be able to predict, with certainty, what will happen in 100 years would not we need to know every weather pattern. Ok, we cannot know every weather pattern. But, if we forecast with such certainty then don't we know a good amount of past history? I was sitting in a speech given by a National Weather Service Meteorologist a couple of years ago. He was elated to announce that by drilling in the Antartic weather officials had collected 400 years of weather data. If you are a creationist that is about 2 to 4% of all historical weather data. If you are an evolutionist then it is...well let's just say well below 1% of all historical weather data. Let us use evolution some more. I love that scientists believe in evolution. It makes looking at their theories so easy. Over the hundreds of billions of years, there have been a multitude of forest fires, meteors hitting the earth and killing off entire populations of dinosaurs (so they believe), and many other catastrophes. Yet, the land has not disappeared. Life has not disappeared, people have not disappeared. Oh, there is more. The National Weather Service Meteorologist stated that the models used to predict Global Warming/Climate Change were the same models used everyday. The point was quickly brought up that these models rarely predicted accurately. He stated that it is much easier to predict what will happen 100 years from now than tomorrow. One more fact. The same meteorologist stated that four things affected global climate change; solar changes, water vapor, carbon dioxide, and atmospheric changes. Ok, no surprise there. He continued that water vapor has the most effect on global climates, however, this also is the thing that they are unable to accurately track and have very little historical data on. Since there is very little scientific data and it is difficult to track, the models do not consider water vapor in their predictions. I will gladly scan in the meteorologist's handouts and provide the PDF.