2012 A hoax? Then Why.....

freethinkingagent, so you are saying it would be pointless to buy Christmas presents that year? Since millions of Christians across the globe are wrong, and you are "right". Tell me, will santa come in 2012? I mean I am on a strict budget. I need to plan ahead!

ok think to yourself when is 2012 its different in all countries just like the 2000 scares if 2012 is going to happen forget about cutting your emmissions and lets all really enjoy ourselves lol,

Whatever happens in 2012 .... for all of us should be the best to be prepared deep inside the hearts for the Lord's second coming every day. Effects of density in space and polarisation of the earth's magnetic field are simply beyond mankind's reach of influence. In the ancient prophecies I don't believe so much because there are many errors included by translation from those old languages. Who can say, that he read and understood Aztec, old Egyptian, Hebrew, Sumerian and Indian languages? How many mistakes came out already from translating Bible's Hebrew texts into Greek and Latin and later in modern languages? For me it is too much interpretation in those old texts to conclude on the same year from all of them.

There is nothing significant about 2012, than 3452 or 1956. The only thing significant about that date, is that people think there's something significant about that date. Not to seem condescending, but there have been dozens on dozens of supposed significant, or end-of-the-world dates in the past as far back as the 1940s. Each time nothing happens. As far back as 1844, the Seventh-Day Adventist believed Jesus was coming back, and on October 22nd, the entire congregation sit on a hill all night in the cold waiting for him. Nothing happened, and the church split up with many leaving the faith. As far as all these other faiths that supposedly point to 2012, it's not true. When people get it in there head that there is something magical about 2012, they tend to start looking for that number "hidden" in other texts. When you look hard enough, your mind starts seeing things that are not there. In short, they determined the answer and found evidence supporting what they already believed, the same as all the other magical dates in history. Specifically to Christianity, the Bible says very pointedly that "no one knows the date of my return". In other words the Bible specifically says there is no possible way to know when Jesus is coming back. As in none, natta, zero chance of having a clue when it will happen. So I don't know what "christian" group thinks they know what G-d specifically said they couldn't know, but it's bogus garbage. I am not saying there are no signs happening today that point to the second coming. There are some very clear signs that we are getting close to the end times. But there is still no possible way to even guess at a date.

I was just wondering something like this. There's a movie coming out about the end of the world called 2012 now. Haha. But I think the reason I don't believe it will actually happen is because I don't want it to. I'm still very young, and even by then, I'll only be 22. I have a lot to accomplish in my life still, a lot of goals I've made for myself. I don't want to think it's all pointless.

The ancient peoples have often surprised us with what they can do, the pyramids Stonehenge, and every day we find that they werent just a bunch of neanderthals huddled around a fire, they were in fact great civilizations. Sure, they seemed to have gotten quite a few astronomical events right, but where exactly do you see the any of them predicting the end of time being 2012? no where. they stopped predicting cosmic events at 2012, after they predicted us passing the center of the galaxy. They have no more ability to forsee the future more than you or I, they couldn't even predict the downfall or their own civilization. They were, for all intensive purposes, just good astrologers. Once you show me clear evidence of some mayan tablet that says, "omg world ends in 2012" or when Jesus says "dudes, 2012 you guys are toast". The fact is that our scientists know soooo much more that these guys ever could, our scientists would know if some sort of cosmic event could destroy our world, because scientists have empirical proof, not just hearsay and speculation

When and if you can show any prophecies that were not based on the obvious outcome of existing events or were not claimed to have come true by a twisting of facts, the you can start to make a case. The 2012 thing is one more case of internet hysteria.

As with most ancient calendars (or even ours) they were based off of astronomical alignments. Its not the end its just tilting the hour glass over. A reset of the clock. Does the end of the world come when midnight strikes? No. Whats truly amazing is how these ancient cultures so clearly understood the solar system and the Galaxy. It makes you wonder if they were influenced by outsiders or if humanity wasn't more advanced in the distant past than we previously thought.

13th zodiac sign, sunspots, changing polar fields, drastic changes in the environment and so forth. It happened in the past and it will happen again when we go through the alignment. The earth will not be destroyed just given a massive facelift and man with either survive or go the way of the dinosaurs. The planet has been giving us signs for sometime now that something is happening but we are like ostriches and stick our heads in the sand and pretend that the environment is not changing all around us. Even the bible and other cultures warn of the coming tribulations of the seas turning to blood (red algea), drought, starvation, crop failure, disease, ect. It warns of poisoned waters, food shortages, drought, insects, diseases, intense heat and scarce shelter.

Nobody can truly predict when it's all going to end. It's been done before and we're still here. Life just goes on and on and on.

The entire world agreed it was the end when Y2K would get here. I'm still waiting for the end of the world. People have been preaching end of the world since the beginning of time. Scientists have not come up with anything other than global warming. If things got really bad, we all would be scared enough to walk to where we want to go instead of drive.

this 2012 really freaks the hell out of me...but for me i wont believe it unless nibiru is visible...hehehehe...this really scary...no one ever know if this is going to happen or not...even those who work on nasa dont really know what will happen they are all depending on their observations...we'll just see what will happen...

First, 2000 where technology would be gone after that year. a lot of people had investment so much on technology protection, and when they realize that it was nothing but a junk, then they stop believing in it.a lot of old civilizations explain the 2012 scenario. one that i used to believe is that a 10th planet named Nibiru is going re enter the Solar System and it's radiative cataclysmic thunder with our sun could destroy us. but you know, why bother with these. if there's one race that would destroy earth is us. Look at pollution,overpopulation and Global Warming. weather is changing rapidly because of our relentless use of resources. I don't believe it, but i believe that if earth's nature is going to be destroyed, it will because we didn't care much on mother nature.

As a Christian I hold on to my beliefs and that all prophecies written in the Bible is true...

Only yesterday, a Muslim friend of mine was asking me about this prophecies. Till that time I have not heard about this, and today just as I was browsing, I came across this discussion. I do not believe in such prophecies, and I think it is a eloborate hoax done by all religions to keep their flock together and to increase their presence in Churches, Mosques or Tempels. As far as I am concerned, I am ready to die even today, but there are people, who love to have a long life, and stay for more than hundred years, these people will be the first to go to place of worship and pray that they do not die in 2012. Evem in 2013, we will be having these kind of discussions.

Hoax, no, I don't think its a hoax, but I won't believe its real until it happens. That's just the way I am. Never really was good at that kind of thing and after being told for about 3 years that our office was going to move, I have gotten even more disbelieving - or as I tell people, I don't believe it until they bring the boxes.

I belive that in 2012 there will be a big change, but it will not be the end of the world. earth started changing it's frequency (every object in this world produces a sertain vibraton) in 1987 and it is belived that by 2012 the frequency will be done changing and earth will remain releasing fequency of 15hz. this frequency effects all those who want to benefit from others, so once earth is done changing all those who are trying to make their living of of good people will not be able to do it anymore. it is belived that this is earth's responce to protect itself from being destroyed. this will in fact end the world as we know it, but it will not be the end of the world because those who are good will not be effected in any way other then positive. this is at least the information that i found and since vibrations of earth did change over the past 12 years it is very likely to be true, but who knows?

I strongly against to believe the 2012 prophecies. Anything may happen in this world but its DATELESS. No one can have exact date, day, place,event to be. Its GOD will to choose without opting the human, nature, animals. Like Tsunami 2004, no one even the scientist, expertise has a glimpse idea of it.

have a good look at this and then come back, free thinker. jb

i m believe the world will become an end in 2012