atheism, whats your definition? Do you consider yourself to be atheist?

United States
July 24, 2009 2:25am CST
A lot of people I know who claim to be atheist tend to be more anti-established religion or anti-Judaic. Websters defines Atheism as godlessness, wickedness or a.) disbelief in the existence of deity b.) the doctrine that there is no deity. Most people I know who claim to be atheist tend to either lean to agnostic or they believe that life isn't just a series of random coincidences. So in your opinion does being atheist mean you have no belief in any deity and if so how do you think things came to be? If you think there was still some driving force that has created our reality as we know it wouldn't you still consider that to be (a) God? If you truly believe that no deity exist than have you ever been in a moment when you were in doubt of this, lets say a moment like life or death situation of yourself or a loved one where you were tempted to pray to the powers that be. After all everyone says there are no atheist in foxholes, especially when the bombs are dropping...lol.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
24 Jul 09
Hi evan, I have already answered your question about atheism below but have to challenge your ridiculous notion that atheists are anti semetic. Although I am an atheist I have read much about Judaism and the intolerance and persecution they have suffered by opposing organised religions which have tried to destroy the whole race. Of all the religions out there I have more respect for Judaism than any other.
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@kprofgames (3091)
• United States
24 Jul 09
I have a daughter that claims to be atheist, but she is really is agnostic. I know she's mad, but she wrote a speach that brought the entire church to tears when she read it at her own convermation. I never understood how you can go from a church environment to atheist because she still belives there is something out there. Whatever her choices are or her own path, still she isn't atheist because she believes there is a higher power out there. I think there is a lot of confusion on it because organized religion is considered a bad thing. I don't know. A true atheist doesn't believe in a higher power. They just live on their own morals. Frankly, they are just fine. People think that Godless people are evil, but really they live by their own standards and own morals and that is just the common sense of right and wrong. Is that a hidden presense in their life and they will not acknowledge it, I'm not to say. I know I believe in what I do, but also I know my own daughter has to choose her own path in life.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
24 Jul 09
Hi kprofgames, I was reluctant to respond to this as believers cannot just accept that there can be atheists, or as you say pthers cannot accept that if we are godless we are evil. I actually think that atheists have better standards than believers as we are more tolerant. I have never believed anything except that god is man made either for some people to believe as they need something extra in their life, or as a manipulitve tool to control other people. I worked this out for myself as a young child, I was not born believing and the whole idea is man made and forced upon children who often don't question what they are told by adults. I don't harbour any doubts at all in what I believe and do not see the need to justify this to anyone. I have directed my answer to you rather than the poster here as you have accepted that atheists are fine.
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• United States
25 Jul 09
kprofgames, thank you for the reply, a lot of people have been hurt by people in organized religion and they tend to turn their beliefs from God because of it. I guess too many choose their faith on people and not on personal experience. Thanks for sharing this.
• United States
25 Jul 09
thea09, I get the feeling that you have jumped to some conclusions about me and feel that I am intolerant, at least by your last sentence posted here. I think maybe before you jump to conclusions you should do some research. I wasn't asking for right or wrong I was asking as an atheist or as you have encountered atheist what was their thinking and definition of being an atheist, sorry if you misunderstood but the point was Websters definition versus atheistic viewpoints. Thanks for your reply.
@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
3 Aug 09
I'm an atheist, but don't rule out the possibility of a deity. I just see no reason to believe in the existence of something for which evidence doesn't exist. I do accept the Big Bang Theory, Abiogenisis, and the Theory of Evolution, as they seem well supported by evidence, or are at least the best current scientific theories/ideas to explain the existence of life and the universe. I haven't really felt the need to pray in a long while - even in cases where I feel I or a loved one is in danger.
• United States
6 Aug 09
Thanks for the reply.
• United States
24 Jul 09
one of my uncles was atheist. the was he explained it was we are it. there is no "celestial parent" to lead or save us,and we were supposed to be responsible for things ourselves. i did not share his beliefs,but i felt he had a right to believe or disbelieve as he wished.
• United States
24 Jul 09
*the way he explained it* i mean. sorry,it's early
• United States
25 Jul 09
I think your uncle was partially right we are it in that we must do our part to make the world a better place, but I do believe we have support.
@nzalheart (2338)
• India
25 Jul 09
Hello EvanHunter!!! Well I would like to consider myself as some sort of atheist. I don't believe in the religions that is totally bounded on the supernatural power, god or deity or anything. I don't believe in creation at all... But my belief is more towards the philosophies from religions like Buddhism and Osho which has always opposed the existence of god. And about my belief in what the reality is: The solid reality we see is the illusion of our senses. The life is the form of our egoes or desires. Without this ego or desires life cannot exist. The world around us is the reflection of our thoughts, it is just like the mirage. Our life is what we think we are. We have all been sleeping in this world. And the ones who awakens is said to be the enlightened one. I can understand such things literally, but to feel it, realize it, lot lot more things to do. We are already confined so deep inside the bars of materialism. It's like we are already confined in the cage than is open but still can't get out of it... And about the last statement you mentioned. I would also definitely pray, but pray for whom, nothing. I would just pray for my satisfaction. As I mentioned the world is the reflection of our thoughts, the praying is also a thought, that can calm be down. I would definitely pray that's why. Whatever you do in life, do it in order to feel peace in mind. Praying is also a power, because praying means the focusing of thoughts, and thoughts are the most powerful things in this universe.. happy mylotting...
• United States
25 Jul 09
Very good reply, thanks for the time to put your thoughts in order on what you believe life/reality is. Yes I would have to agree to life being a reflection of our thoughts or our thinking definitely forms our reality. I still however believe that someone had to create this "hologram" that we live in and not by accident. I also agree that praying is a more pure form of thought and purity of thought leads to a formation of the reality we desire.
• United States
25 Jul 09
You probably know from other discussions that I'm a Buddhist, but I also consider myself an Atheist, because I don't believe in any gods. In my earlier days of Buddhism, people used to ask me, "Are you sure Buddha isn't a god?" but more and more people these days seem to know already.
• United States
25 Jul 09
Well from our other discussions you know where I stand also ... lol. As I pointed out to islander7 some Buddhist do believe that Buddha was tempted and persuaded by the Hindu God(dess) so I don't really view Buddhism as an atheist beliefs just because they refuse to worship. But I can say that like me you can believe something is right for you and still not believe as others do about the doctrine of it all, or in this case maybe the legend of Buddha. Most people who claim to be atheist still have some beliefs, very few people have I met that actually believe this is it we are animals we live and die and there is nothing more to reality as we know it. Maybe atheist should petition Websters to redefine atheist description, sorry but not my place to take up this cause I was just curious to see how it compared to what people who actually called themselves atheist and their beliefs. Thanks for your reply.
• United States
26 Jul 09
No, I'm sure you're totally correct that the dictionary definition of Atheism belies it's usage, so no need to apologize. More than welcome, dude. You just keep on posting good discussions.