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0bama Science Czar: OK To Kill TODDLERS!!!
@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
United States
July 24, 2009 2:00pm CST
[b]John Holdren, the 0bama administration's Science Czar (who is not bound by the Constitution and answers only to 0bama) advocated killing children under the age of two years old, forced abortions, forced sterilization, seizing the babies of unwed and teen mothers, and adding chemicals to our food and water supplies to make us sterile!
How did this guy NOT get scrutinized BEFORE getting put into office?[/b]
http://www.onebigdog.net/tag/infanticide/
excerpt below:
...John Holdren, a Harvard University Professor (aren’t they all), who has advocated in the past that it would be okay to abort an infant up to two years old. That’s right, kill babies. His reasoning is that until the baby can realize that there’s a tomorrow, the baby is not really human.
He also has postulated that sterilants (birth control drugs) should be added to the water we drink, on the grounds that there are already too many people, and certainly too many of the wrong kind, whatever that is supposed to mean.
President Obama’s “science czar,” Paul Holdren, once floated the idea of forced abortions, “compulsory sterilization,” and the creation of a “Planetary Regime” that would oversee human population levels and control all natural resources as a means of protecting the planet — controversial ideas his critics say should have been brought up in his Senate confirmation hearings.
He was confirmed with little fanfare on March 19 as director of the White House’s Office of Science and Technology Policy, a 50-person directorate that advises the president on scientific affairs, focusing on energy independence and global warming.
But many of Holdren’s radical ideas on population control were not brought up at his confirmation hearings; it appears that the senators who scrutinized him had no knowledge of the contents of a textbook he co-authored in 1977, “Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment,” a copy of which was obtained by FOXNews.com.
The 1,000-page course book, which was co-written with environmental activists Paul and Anne Ehrlich, discusses and in one passage seems to advocate totalitarian measures to curb population growth, which it says could cause an environmental catastrophe.
Those plans include forcing single women to abort their babies or put them up for adoption; implanting sterilizing capsules in people when they reach puberty; and spiking water reserves and staple foods with a chemical that would make people sterile.
To help achieve those goals, they formulate a “world government scheme” they call the Planetary Regime, which would administer the world’s resources and human growth, and they discuss the development of an “armed international organization, a global analogue of a police force” to which nations would surrender part of their sovereignty.
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read more about it here (complete with text from Holdren's own book:
http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/
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I don't know about you, but this scares the hell out of me as a mother to young children and as a human being. when you take this into account along with the push for socialized healthcare that may deny treatment to the elderly or others deemed not worthy of the expense, you get a very scary picture that rivals that of the Nazis!
It's a slippery slope, people! Do you want to wake up in an America that tells you your infant or toddler son or daughter must be put to death because they are not perfect in the eyes of the government, or where you are FORCED to have an abortion because the government decides you shouldn't have a baby? Do you think the government should be able to take away your baby if you are not of a certain age or aren't married? Is THIS the "hope & change" you want?
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8 responses
@Eskimo (2315)
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25 Jul 09
First lets look at the facts in a calm detached way. The population of the world is too great and may soon be unsustainable, so how do we cut this down - by education (persuading people to have less children), by natural selection (natural means, by war, famine, natural disasters). etc.
What we DON'T EVER DO, is kill babies and children, forced abortion or compulsory sterilisation. Where would the line be drawn - 3 month old? 6 month? 2 years?, 60 years old? Why would they just target the young why not the elderly when they have finished their productive life, and no longer useful. What about those who are disabled, (physically or mentally), or the wrong colour or religion? Remember once something like this starts, it can then be modified to add additional reasons for extermination.
This was tried in the 30's and 40's to produce a 'Master Race' and look where it got the world.
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@Eskimo (2315)
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28 Jul 09
Debra, I agree that a lot of things that governments tell us is purely for their own good (and greed), especially the myth about greenhouse gases, however I'm not convinced that overpopulation is a myth. I am sure that the earth could substain a lot more people if they were spread more evenly about the planet, however the places with the worst climate, (asia, africa and south america) seem to be where the population growth is largest. Food and pure water would also need to be in abundance.
Hornswaggled, I don't know where you get the idea I'm for abortion, I suggest you re-read my second paragraph again. There are only two reasons where I wouldn't be totally against abortion, that is after rape, and when the mother's life is in danger, but again that would depend on each individual circumstance, in these cases I would not make any judgement either for or against it.
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@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
25 Jul 09
That's exactly what has got me so worried. Thanks for the reply.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
26 Jul 09
Eskimo...I have heard it said that the overpopulation theory is a myth. Sort of like global warming.
Could it be that this to is a lie designed to scare us. The article I read...back thirty years ago....said that the earth could sustain many more than what was cited as 'to much'...but distribution of resources was hindered by GREED and POWER LUST.
What do you think?
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
24 Jul 09
Wow, that seems pretty darn radical. But then Obama seems to have a lot of radicals in his life over the years.
I'm not sure if the man actually advocated these things or just used them as a discussion topic in the book he co-authored some thirty years ago.
I hate to jump to conclusions so I think I will just have to do some further investgation about this before I make a judgement on the man.
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@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
24 Jul 09
I respect your opinion, please get back to me after you've had a chance to look into it.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
26 Jul 09
If you don't mind piasabird...I'd like to know what you find too.
Even if this was just a topic for a book written 30 years ago....he'd have had to have a Come to Jesus experience to change that kind of radical thinking. Couple that with planned parenthoods foudner Margaret Sanger and her radical statements and it would tend to make you wonder if the government has a hidden agenda.
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@visitorinvasion (7709)
• United States
25 Jul 09
Again, thank you for bringing this to our attention. Upon some further digging, what I saw a lot of was how "good for the environment" this Holdren is going to be...which is a big fat lie to cover what he's really here to do: advise the beginning of the New World Order's population control plan.
Here's a link I found from zombietime in regards to Holdren's White House statements:
http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/#white_house_statement
Now's a really good time for people to be getting in touch with their representatives, senators, and mainstream media demanding that this Holdren person be removed from advisory counsel.
Contact information for representatives, senators, governors & media can be found here: http://contentcity.blogspot.com/2007/10/email-addies-youve-been-waiting-for.html#links
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@Riptide (2756)
• United States
24 Jul 09
WTF??? Is this fukking guy for real? Is he the reincarnation of Dr. Mengele or something?
He needs to be stopped, before he can implement any of his crazy ideas and Obama needs to be stopped, before he can appoint any more crazy azzholes like this!
I come from a country where we had something like this happen and now there are laws in place to make sure it NEVER will happen again and you would think that the whole world would have learned from it!
If his ideas are starting to get implemented I am outta here, because I know the after effects!
You know, when Obama first ran for president, I started seeing similarities between him and Hitler. The way he carried himself with an air of superiority, his speeches and how he drew in the crowd and people actualy swooning over him.
NOW I'm starting to see similarities in how is trying to run the country and the people he surrounds himself with.
I just hope and pray, that he can't do too much damage before his term is up and I hope the american people have the sense not to vote for him AGAIN!
@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
25 Jul 09
Can you snag some extra plane tickets when you go and take me & the kids with you? It may be the last place on Earth safe from these maniacs thanks to the brutal lessons they learned the hard way in the past.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
26 Jul 09
be careful what you say Riptide....they're watching.
The more I read and the more I learn...the scarier it gets.
I spent many years reading and studying about the Holocaust. My mother's step grandfather was in New York on business when Austria was invaded. He couldn't go back until after the war, and when he did his family, his life...was gone. My family loved this kind and gentleman and my dearest possession is a picture of him holding me two days after I was born. I've heard about and discussed the horrors of WWII since I was a child. Never ever did I think the world would willingly go through that again.
You see and hear....NEVER AGAIN! about 9/11 and about the Holocaust. What a joke. The villians of both are still very much a threat. And we are embracing them as friends & saviors once again.
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@lisado (1227)
• United States
25 Jul 09
OMG! I can't imagine having someone tell me that I have to kill my child because he is under the age of two. I don't like abortions at all, but this is a whole new level of anything close to that! Them being able to decide that I don't need any more children, and me having no voice in the matter, makes me sick. He may be the president but he isn't God! Like some of the others said, if this gets approved I may have to find another country!
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@visitorinvasion (7709)
• United States
25 Jul 09
Yes, let's all just leave. Heaven forbid we were to stand up and say no.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
25 Jul 09
After reading this I am wondering how anyone could still question if we are in the last days of civilization. HOW did we manage to let it get this out of hand? I feel like I went to sleep sometime last year and am stuck in a bad nightmare! Or worse yet, maybe aliens came and abducted me and I am in a dimensional time warp! This is NOT my country allowing this crap is it? Wow.
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@Yestheypayme2dothis (7874)
• United States
25 Jul 09
I am beginning to wonder about Harvard. I have lost my respect for it. I am still wondering how Obama got it.
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@Improbability (140)
• United States
24 Jul 09
You know, if it came down to the end of the human race because we over-populated (starvation, rampant disease, massive increase in murder and crime) then I'd probably take up a lot of his suggestions. Not all, mind you. This is probably most disturbing when you can't ever concieve of our needs being that dire. And hopefully they never will be. If he is saying that our problem is that bad now, then yes, he's a wacko.
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@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
24 Jul 09
I don't think there is EVER any excuse to kill little kids!
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