Obama's Theology may surprise you. What do you know about his beliefs?

Black Liberation Theology is about Marxism. Throwing off the oppressor. Liberation theology began in Latin America...when Catholic Priests began getting involved in the overthrow of dictators. They taught that Jesus preached the overthrow of unjust human leaders. Which is not the case at all. The blacks in America got ahold of it in the early 1950's - this is true. But just because they put a Muslim or Christian face on it does not make it a good way to expresss 'spirituality'. Rather it is using the Bible and the teachings of Jesus as an excuse to do away with the democratic principles and system we have here in America. It is a true mixing of religion and politics and it is happening here and now under Obama. Is anyone aware that Louis Farrakan the Black Muslim civil rights leader called Obama the 'messiah'. Instead of discounting this as a religious opinion, we should sit up and take notice. Religion does matter as it is a persons world view!...Obama's worldview is NOT the worldview of the majority of Americans.

I am not so sure that the black Christians were looking for a way to express their spirituality by embracing Black Liberation theology. I think they were looking for an outlet and excuse for expressing their anger. The black church has been very strong all through out the civil rights movement...some took the path of Martin Luther King Jr. who espoused the teachings of Ghandi and Jesus Christ...and some took the path of Louis Farrakan and Cone and others of that tendency towards hate. I don't think hate is a legitimat experssion of human spirituality...rather the opposite.....tending towards human depravity.

I would have to partially disagree that Law and Order necessarily began with religion. For example, the Code of Hammurabi makes no mention towards religion; although they did worship several gods, that was a separate issue from the law. I do see however that religion may have been essential to gather people all together under a common goal and creating a community for which laws would be necessary. I have to say I am sorry for implying that there is a separation of church and state law in the USA. You are fully right in that regard, my mistake. But I have to point out that the "American Way" recently has not been very accepting. We are very biased towards the Christian theology, which is understandable; we have a majority of Christians in this nation. For example, having "In God We Trust" on coinage can be offensive and is biased to everyone besides Christians. Muslims would prefer 'Allah', Jews 'Yahweh', Polytheists 'Gods', Atheists 'Reason', Autotheists 'Ourselves', and so on. Being a 'democracy' does not give us that right even if Christians are the majority. The Constitution as you said says we can't favor religions, but how aren't we? I also have another small problem with religion in the government. America as you said was founded by a religious people. But it was founded by people who came to America to get away from religious persecution by the Church of England. Who's to say if we let it continue and the government gains control of religion, we won't be in a similar situation of imposed beliefs which we do not believe? Not that the situation is very likely, but something to think about. Indeed, we will always vote on who shares our view; that only makes sense. Anyway, I did enjoy reading your reply and stimulating my brain into thinking.

I am of the opinion that even though many would like to think their 'religion' does not play a part in their politics...it does. Religion is the way a person views the world. Even atheists have a worldview and a system of belief on how to act and interact in this world. That is the definition of religion. A frame of referrence is another way to describe this. How you see the world and your place in it defines how you think you ought to be governed. Law and order began with religion. The gods were seen as ruling man. Government is supposed to be about Law and Order. Religions were the first to impliment LAW. The American way is to be tolerant of all worldviews...and hope all can cooperate under the law of the land. That is why we do NOT have separation of church and state as most believe. That phrase is not found on any of our founding documents. Fact is...we have a government that is prohibited from FAVORING any certain religious belief....but founded on religious principles such as law and order, we have a government that says that all have been given rights by their Creator. We have in God we trust on our currency..which is our method of paying taxes to our government. We take an oath on a religious book...either the Bible or more recently the Quran. We are a relgious people! To vote for someone who has the closest worldview to what you have is only natural. If I am opposed to abortion based on my worldview or religion...I will vote for law makers and leaders who share this belief. That IS the way it works. I am glad you at least read the article. I am seeing more and more that his beliefs (worldview) do not match what beliefs most of America holds...black or white.

Thank you for responding. Did you read the article? I will not debate whether we are a Christian nation or not...all I know if Mr. Obama get his way we will not be a democracy anymore. We will be the United Socialists States of America.

I read it before I responded.

Oh, I think we can have a good idea of what he believes based on his very public agenda in congress. Not to mention his racism showed during the Gates issue in Cambridge. I do encourage you to read the article. His beliefs are very obvious. This is not about RELIGION...it is not about FAITH...it's about rearranging the social structure of the USA. Please read the article!

Thanks. I see that now...sorry. I think we can see what his beliefs are from his actions and his history.

I care about what is happening, but I believe it is inevitable. We can only do so much in attempt to prevent it, but I think really the only thing we can really do is fight it when it gets here. I think that the New World Order is coming. At first I wasn't going to say anything to you because most people don't believe in that sort of thing, but then I noticed you started a discussion on the matter, so I guess it crossed your mind as well. Honestly, I don't really think that the president has as much power as we are led to believe. Therefore, I don't care what he believes, as I said before.

I do see the New World Order coming. They've been promising us that way back, democrats & republicans alike. I am surprised that YOU see it too. My faith in the Bible makes it easy to believe this coming about, as it was prophecied in the first century. Not to slight the Muslims..they too have their prophecy of a coming 'messiah' who will bring Islam to the WHOLE world. Belief in this Islamic prophecy is one reason the 'newly elected' president of Iran is spoiling for a fight. Which makes my point....religion and world view MATTER in politics. Thanks for responding sketch.

Sketch...you may have to care what his beliefs are when you are forced to live in a socialist state because of them. Like I said, this is NOT about faith in God or the Bible....it is about worldviews. And Obama's worldview is based on the teachings of Marx, Cone and Rev. Wright.

Oh but you are mistaken. Religion plays a big part in this. I do agree that it shouldn't, but in the case of Mr. Obama...it plays a big part. It is not about Muslims vs. Christians. I encourage anyone who wants to respond to this topic to read the article first. The article shows the path from black liberation theology to Islam and finally to our dear leaders plans for America. We in America are so used to our government NOT bringing religion into politics that we are not seeing the subtle hints that Mr. Obama's religious beliefs ARE playing a part in his presidency. Please read the article! It is NOT an anti Muslim rant or a anti Christian rant.

I agree with your statement very much, most politicians are opportunists, like many of us, though when dealing with a country we should have people who care running it, not a bunch of jerks who just want political advancement instead of good adjustments to the country. And yes, both parties are full of them, I feel like neither a democrat nor a republican.

I am not republican or a democrat. I feel the parties as is are the cause of most of the problems we have.

Please read the article! We all realize that politicians are jerks...this is not about politics. It is about an attempt to radically change the whole of American social structure! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeese read the article.

Black Liberation Theology does not teach blacks to hate whites. You should research what it actually does teach. Using Trinity Church as an example of the thousands of such churches across this country is wrong. Rev. Wright is a hateful old man, who doesn't mind living in a million dollar mansion among white folks, who has been denounced by many other leaders of churches that follow this theology.

The Rev. Wright, if it is permissble to even call him that, is the origin of Mr. Obama's statement on the stupidity of the Cambridge police arrest of Mr. Gage. I for one do not see how people can agree to be so misled and support this man any longer. It's obvious to me that the plan is to turn America into a socialist state...with the whites as the oppressed and the blacks as the oppressors. Which is racism still! Please do not call me a racist for having this opinion. It is just as WRONG for blacks to feel it is ok to hate whites as it is for whites to hate blacks. It shouldn't be about hate or color. But the Rev. Wright and his mentor Mr. Cone teach this hatred of whites and their star pupil is Barack Obama! Not to mention that Karl Marx would be real proud! Please read the article!

Black Liberation Theology relies heavily on socialism and the oppressed/oppressor view of the world. AND couple that with the hateful old man's hatred of whites...and being the one Mr. Obama called HIS MENTOR....I think we DO have something to worry about. I admit, I am not conversant about all the ideas of Liberation Theology...but I do know it's teachings are socialistic and Marxist. And I do know that obama values that hateful old man's teachings enough to call him his mentor. I also know that Obama inspired Louis Farrakan to call him the 'messiah'. Put all that together and America's in trouble.

Religious people are not spiritual people per say. The people who are buying the snake oil...may feel it's a religious experience but that is all part of the big lie. A real religious experience is to find the TRUTH. I have to chuckle at those who say they are not religous so this all means nothing to them...do they not realize that by taking a neutral stand they are allowing very religious people the right to decide HOW they will finish living their non religious life?

Obama was not acting presidential or professional when he made that remark. As president, he had no right to say that even if he thought it, nor even if it appeared correct. It's another example of his inexperience. That was definitely a "no comment" moment and he didn't recognize that. Yes, he can do that much damage in 4 years if he can set precendents and get away with subverting the Constitution and if he destroys our economy while putting us in debt to foreign nations, yes, he can set the country back to a point where it may not be able to recover. Obama has HIS vision for America and he's going to implement it regardless. Regardless of whether the people want it. Regardless of whether it is in our best interest. Is it securing his legacy? Is it eogism? He wants to be loved worldwide. Is that the point? As far as racism goes, I think it's like everything else. There's a bell curve. The middle and largest part of the bell is your average American who is not racist and who sees people as individuals as judges them as such. These people don't want discrimination or reverse discrimination. At the far ends, you have on one side people who are extremely racist, and on the other side people who see racism in everything. We elected a black president and we're proud of how far we have come. It's unfortunate we elected someone from one of the far ends of the bell curve. Religion and politics have always been mixed together, religion not necessarily being a belief in God, however. Obama is working towards bringing his world view to reality. He is working very hard at it, look what has happened in just a few months. He's got 3 1/2 more years. I certainly think that if Congress is not materially changed in the 2010 elections, he could accomplish some things that will have effects that reach far into the future. Of course, no ideology or theology will save you in the end if you oppose this world view, this vision, this structure he intends to impose. As the article points out, just look to the Bolsheviks, Marx, Trotsky, Lenin and Stalin to see where it leads.

And add to that mix a bunch of radical extremist Jihadists that he's kissing up to! I hope we can accomplish what needs to be done in the 2010 congressional elections...if the world isn't in total disaray by then, with us under martial law.

Surely he can't do THAT much damage in four years? And surely he will NOT be re-elected? People try to make these facts into a religious issue. I don't care what a person religion is unless he tries to impose his religious beliefs on me. And that is just what the agenda is. His snide remark about the police acting stupidly was just the very very tip of the very very large iceberg of what he believes. That police officer had been chosen as a teacher for the police force on how NOT to profile...did you see his fellow officers...both black... stand up for him? That is what this country needs, blacks and whites working together for the common good...not some jerk saying Gage was profiled just cause he got arrested. There is still racism in this country...but I believe we've made great progress and Obama just set it back a couple of decades with that remark as far as I'm concerned. And THAT remark stems from his 'religious' beliefs! The beliefs he 'absorbed' from Rev. Wright. I've heard and read comparisons to Hitler. Hitler's scapegoat was the Jews...Obama's is the white conservative Christian. And sorry, there are atheists out there who JUST MAY get caught up in the roundup...if they'be ever took a conservative stand on any issue.