Philippines nurses
By sirkana15
@sirkana15 (106)
Philippines
July 30, 2009 10:41pm CST
it's so frustrating that a lot of Filipino nurses have a high rate of unemployment. they went thru expensive education and most of them end up in different jobs unrelated to their field...some are even working as sales ladies. call centers are accepting but nowadays, they are skeptical about nurse applicants because of the short period of commitment. GMA's nars program cannot cater all the nurses passing the board exam every year because it prioritizes only the nurses leaving in remote areas...yet despite this alarming fact, still a lot of nursing schools continue to open and a lot of students are still enrolling...
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@wergild (189)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
It seems that the government neglected the fact that the nursing schools have become lucrative business for some people. This is also something that people who enrolled and are planning to enroll in the nursing school have overlooked. They seem to be easily deceived by the notion or the promises of better chances abroad that they seem to forget about the reality of oversupply of graduates and opportunistic businessmen who sees the nursing courses as another lucrative venture.
The vocation of nursing has been degraded in these times. My grandma who is a nurse in profession used to say that she became a nurse because of altruistic vocation and the love for the profession. Nowadays, one becomes a nurse for the goal of earning much and this temptation of money is a perfect opportunity for greedy schools.
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@sirkana15 (106)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
thumbs up for that...i hate those nursing schools who takes advantage of the situation. and CHED is not working much...they should close these schools because clearly, some of these nursing schools do not meet the CHED's requirements on nursing school standards...
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@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
31 Jul 09
I notice that a lot of Philippino women, and some men, come to my country (the USA) to get nursing degrees. I know that nursing is a great profession, but it seems like everyone wants to be a nurse, and not everyone is cut out for nursing. I have five friends who are all trying to be nurses right now, and it is not as easy as it seems. Doctors are needed more than nurses right now, engineers are needed as well, special education teachers are needed, morticians are needed, dirty jobs such as garbage men, farm workers and jobs like that are all needed right now. People come to America from other countries thinking that nursing is the big thing, but we have plenty of them, so many that some people are on waiting list to get into the nursing programs.
My major is English Education, but I am really rethinking my major right now because English teachers are not being highered right now, but special ed teachers are. You have got to go where the need is.
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@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
Ont thing about that profession is that nursing is the only profession that your country lacks and is accommodating in foreign countries. That is why being here, in my country that is the education they prefer to be able to work abroad and earn higher than they would if they would work here.
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@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
yes indeed. most students will want to be a nurse because of their dreams to work in US for high salaries. but with things going now in US economy i don't know if there is still high demand for nurses.
indeed nursing course is not an easy one. but students here still believes that it is their best hope to make it in other countries.
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@sirkana15 (106)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
take note, not only students are taking up nursing but other professionals as well...some are CPAs, doctors, engineers, etc...
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@swirlz (3136)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
I think it's because there are a lot of students and only a few job opportunities. There are nursing graduates every year while an employed nurse works for maybe 20 years. Just think about that ratio. Where are we going to put the other graduates then? And besides, most of them are so picky. I know someone who doesn't like to work long hours and graveyard shifts, but complain of such low salaries. In short words, he wants a job that wouldn't be tiring, yet with big paychecks. Just imagine.
I think it's the fault of students. They're not thinking things through. They only think of the what-ifs. That is, if they get a job. They don't think that there are already thousands of registered nurses who can't find a job. There are other courses available that are really in demand these days. They just have to open up their minds to it.
@agv0419 (3022)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
It is oversupply of the nursing graduates for the past years but now that nursing course is 5 yrs. at the same time it is recession many freshmen had a second thoughts to take nursing because of the higher expenses of this course. I agree that some fresh graduates are very choosy because they want to have a big salary in my opinion they should look for experience not the salary. Japan and Middle East have opportunities for fresh nurse graduates. In the years to come I think Filipino nurse going to be in demand abroad because of the shortages of nurses in some countries.
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@sirkana15 (106)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
let's not blame it all on the students because even parents influence their kids...ive got lots of friends who took up nursing because they don't have any choices...their parents wants them to take the course..
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@sheena_santi (56)
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31 Jul 09
it is so frustating t know...i am a nurse myself yet i dont work as a nurse...the mere reason i sthat there may be jobs available but we have to suffe from over work and less pay...to think about it...wecan get higher pay from non-nursing jobs...awful isnt it? the situation is really serious and i am not very happy about it...some hospitals even let the nurses pay for experience...this is really unfair and i am not happy because of this...they say that there are a lot of job openings in other countries yet wen we apply we cant get visa instantly....we have to spend a lot of money and we have to wait for such a long time...why is it that wen we go somewhere else aside from asia it is so hard but when people from those places come to asia they get the visa a lot easier and faster...doesnt it sound unfair? i hae to sya this but when your a nurse in the philippines you never get enough money and stii get stucked with debts!!!!
@swirlz (3136)
• Philippines
1 Aug 09
Oh, that's not so bad. You're talking about payment for the duty while students? Well, think about this. Architecture requires a 2 year apprenticeship in order to take the board exam. That's not just duty while being students. It's not part of a curriculum. And how much are we being paid? Here in our area, it's 50 pesos a day, 6 days a week. That's 300 a week. The reason for this: we are learning from our spprenticeship, we should be the one paying for them.
So don't complain so much.
@sheena_santi (56)
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31 Jul 09
huhuhu...T,T...in uk students are even paid wen they have thier duty in the hospital...i dont know why this is happening in the philippines....we should be paid with the right maount of money....u know in UK u can have 80000 pesos in a month...u see...this is so much more than what nurses who are regulars here in the philippines get paid for....
@sirkana15 (106)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
That is so true..i don't know why the government is not doing something on this policy of hospitals that volunteers have to pay in order to work...and students do not have much choices but pay in prder to get an experience for workin abroad...and with the visa thing, it's also unfair...
@koalapenguin (2707)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
Count me in! I just passed the board exam last June and now, i do not know where to start. I tried visiting the NARS program that DOLE gave but it was all just for nurses who live in provinces. Here in Metro Manila, some of my classmates told me that we are required to attend seminars before we get employed. I am having second opinions about it because it will cost me thousands to apply for membership. If only hospitals won't be so demanding, then Filipino nurses might stay here.
@sirkana15 (106)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
yah...the NARS program is not meant for nurses living in the urban areas...attending seminars also is very expensive and nurses do not have much choice. hospitals demand because they know that nurses are competing for the few positions that they offer..so sad...then again, it's reality...i pity those freshmen nursing students...they don't know what the future holds for them...if only the global recession can end soon...
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@wergild (189)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
You are missing a part of your life if you dont get to serve the provinces. I am a government employee in the province and i see these nurses working in our rural health unit. They get to deal with lots of people and all the inconveniences builds their character. it sucks that nurses like you who are determined to serve the people in the province are denied their chances.
@sirkana15 (106)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
yes..that's a sad fact because the NARS program is limited...
@babyfiona08 (652)
• Philippines
3 Aug 09
It's really frustrating. I passed the board exam June 2008 and now it's been more than a year and still nothing happened. There is really a high rate of unemployment. and yes, many students are still into taking up nursing.
Well, I'm not discouraging anyone to take up nursing but i think they should consider the reality of unemployment here in our country.
As of now, I really don't know how will I start up with my career. Well, I just hope someone could help me go abroad and find a better opportunity there.
Well, to all of us, let's just face reality and hope for the best!
@babyfiona08 (652)
• Philippines
4 Aug 09
yeah. i know it is needed abroad. I already have a one year experience as a volunteer nurse for a year.So, i think that's pretty okay already.
My mom always tells me to do be a volunteer nurse again but I don't want to..lol
I'm happy being an online writer now and earning a good amount of money, one I cannot earn even as a regular hospital staff nurse.
Honestly, I don't know If I'll pursue my profession. I'm still on the process of weighing things out now.
@sirkana15 (106)
• Philippines
4 Aug 09
try to get into volunteer work so u can get some experience...it is needed abroad
@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
The situation why there are many nursing graduates nowadays is not because our country is not able to accommodate them but the students themselves chose to be in that course for reasons like the demand for it abroad is high. Unfortunately, because of the the enormity of them you could not guarantee the quality of the graduates themselves resulting to over supply of nurses here and since abroad is not as easy as it was before nurses are trapped here or are forced to work in our local hospitals that pay low wages.
@sirkana15 (106)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
to add to that...not all nursing graduates are efficient enough to work in hospitals...that's because of nursing schools opening everywhere that don't even meet up the standards of CHED...and the government is doing nothing against it... the result is, thousand of nurses graduate each year but only small fraction of them pass the board exam...
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
1 Aug 09
my sister too is undergoing job stress in finding right employer and she even passed all the exam recommended for US nurses ranging from Ielts, nclex, Cgfns and to her amazement. The agency where she applies says that nurses recruitment process is stop as the result of recession. She now plan to work in Middle East as the fast way to be get a job and here in the Philippines their is a lot of competition. I think nurses degree are coming to a point of saturation where everybody are taking nurses in the future their will be an over supply and they will no longer be demanding resulting in nurses accepting job out of their specialization..
@iamcapricorn (338)
• Philippines
1 Aug 09
This I don't really understand. My young cousin who is a newly licensed nurse cannot work in a hospital, to get some experience because his older sister who is also a nurse working in London is petitioning him to work there but he still need to have at least two years experience, so what they do is he applied in a big hospital as trainee and even paid the hospital for his services,one parent I had talked to, said that her daughter nurse was paid lower than minimum salary. Now how can Filipino nurses will stay and work here if this is the kind of attitude they will get from our local hospitals. Even the Phil. Nursing Association is complaining about this kind of practice.
@eichs1 (1934)
• Philippines
1 Aug 09
That's the irony of implementing the two-year service requirement. There are lots of unemployed nurses here and yet we don't want them to work in other countries that need them. The government should really consider this policy. If we want the good nurses to stay in the country, this is not the solution. Giving higher pay rates will do.
@jules67 (2788)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
That is really frustrating. There are more number of graduates than jobs created. Some have resorted to call centers. This is the reason why a lot of people are migrating to other countries. That is one evidence how our government's spending have become out of control. Instead of creating jobs, they pocket the money intended for our country.
@swirlz (3136)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
What do you mean, create jobs? A job of a nurse is in a hospital. So what you're trying to say is build a hospital? 'Cause they surely can't put more nurses in an already operating hospital than what is really needed, can they?
And besides, would you open a hospital with only nurses and no doctors? Since there are far lesser doctors now than nurses.
I think it's the fault of the students. There are a lot of courses that are in demand, yet they keep on studying nursing even though there's no more jobs available for them.
And besides, I think going abroad is the primary reason these nursing graduates have studied nursing in the first place, so don't give that as an after effect of the problem.
@lcdelmendo18 (990)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
Its more of a function of supply and demand... We already have so much nurse graduates right now that demand cannot catch up anymore...Many countries are also not accepting nurses right now because of the economic crisis... The government should limit the students taking up nurses.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
1 Aug 09
Many schools open Nursing degree and yet their students failed in passing the local Board examination. Many graduates have little experience and even getting a experience they have to pay it in other institution. Some schools need to be close they taught Nursing with a low quality hence producing undesirable Nurses..
@sirkana15 (106)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
other school of nursing should be closed especially those that don't have good performance...they are just taking advantage of the people and the situation...
@yuansplace (543)
• Switzerland
31 Jul 09
When I see this post, I remember my sister who took nursing but failed in the board examination. She will be retaking exams again. If the Philippine government cannot provide jobs to thousand of nurses who have licenses, how much more to those who did not even get the license because they were unable to pass the examination. Here in Europe, even if you do not have that license, you can still practice being a nurse. I do not know how possible is that, but I can see that they really work without a degree. Then I can say that it is possible.
Keep posting. Happy Mylotting. Have a nice day.
Jeff
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
11 Aug 09
well, it's because of so-called high demand for nurses that most students think it's a trend now to study as a nurse in order to work abroad. schools only after profit and recognition so that more students will enroll in their school. well, not all of them, some school even coach for cheats regarding the exam, which causes very unfair to hard working students who went hell just to pass the exam....
@homeshoppers (6166)
• Philippines
1 Aug 09
well thats true and actually the fact.. but we cant avoid it.. and as long as theirs school and hospital, nursing course will remain.. it really depends to them of what path they will choose after graduating and passing board exam.
@tholitz (1127)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
Hi sirkana15!
I believe the rising demand for nurses in other countries in the last 10 years have made this course to become so popular, that even school which are experts in computer courses are offering nursing in their curriculum. This have made every young student to choose nursing as their course in college to have a better chance of working abroad and have a bigger salary. Due to this, the supplies have caught up with the demand (in economic term), where even the local demand had already been filled up which made some nursing graduates to pay the hospital so that they will be employed and gained the necessary experienced to apply in other countries. Even have grown tired of waiting to be called and just shifted from other careers like call center, factory workers, etc.
Have a nice day!
@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
the price of education is really expensive here and elsewhere. in fact as we all know. the price of education here is cheaper compared to other countries such as US, Korea, Japan , Singapore and other countries. but the bad part is there is not much available job in our country though unlike in other countries that there are lots of jobs available .
@shhheila (1845)
• Philippines
31 Jul 09
ya i agree with that, every year nurses are increasing in our country. my friends worked as call center agents because hospitals got lots of requirements. NARS program are only for those remote areas in provinces where there's no electricity and water thats what i heard from a friend. schools should limit enrollees
@studentabe (109)
• Belgium
31 Jul 09
If you can get available position, are you sure you still want to be a nurse anymore?
In China, as far as I know, many nurses quit their jobs and change the career every year,so there aren't enough nurses in hospitals. On the contrast, medical students are overfull. It is much more difficult for medical students to find a position than nurse students do.
@studentabe (109)
• Belgium
31 Jul 09
Maybe it isn't a bad news that they end up in other jobs if they don't like to be nurses anymore. I was a medical doctor before I have studied abroad. In China, most nurses don't like their job at all because of high working pressure, high risk, night shift and the payment isn't good.Furthermore, some patients and relatives of patients don't respect nurses. The problem is it is not so easy for them to change their career.