Cash for Clunkers...
By iriscot
@iriscot (1289)
United States
July 31, 2009 1:52pm CST
News Alert
01:24 PM EDT Friday, July 31, 2009
House Votes to Give $2 Billion More to 'Cash for Clunkers'
Week-old government program to encourage car sales had proven so popular with consumers that it was almost out of cash. The House bill would redirect funds in the already-passed economic stimulus package that were intended for energy loan guarantees.
For more information, visit http://www.washingtonpost.com
"It's helping to get these gas guzzlers off the streets... What do you think?"
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
31 Jul 09
To sorta piggyback on something gewcew is talking about, it doesn't really appear to me that this program is getting gas guzzlers off the street, per se.
I think it is boosting the automotive industry, however. From what I understand about the program, it's essentially a run-of-the-mill trade-in feature that allows people to get a few thousand down toward a new vehicle, only they're not being selective about it.
I don't think it's a bad thing at all. If it helps boost the economy, even though it seems to be dealing in more long-term credit, it might produce some much-needed short-term gain.
I believe it's a good program, my only semi-beef with it is that the government is using taxpayer stimulus to do it, right? Ugg. I don't like the government and the auto industry being this close. I just really don't. It makes me feel as if the government's not trying to get out of the auto industry, they're just pushing further in.
The silver lining, I guess, is that funding is from already allocated stimulus funding, so no new spending bills have to be rushed through and passed at 3am -- allegedy! lol
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@gtargirl (5376)
• United States
31 Jul 09
Well said, matersfish. I was just wondering what happens to the clunkers--scrap metal or will we find them in the used car section.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
31 Jul 09
Any dealer participating in this program has to provide documentation that the vehicle was scrapped. Any dealer trying to resell one of these vehicles would find himself in hot water...and probably all over the local news as well.
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
31 Jul 09
Oh! That would be a breaking story -- if someone found out the "clunkers" were being resold at used car lots, at a huge markup no less.
I definitely want to find out now.
@phildozer (284)
• United States
31 Jul 09
and some of the critcisims is from environmentalists who say that it doesnt go far enough, because of what gew cew said, it only forces you to upgrade by 1 mpg. My girlfriend's father for instance, couldnt exchange it, because his old car had to low MPG, so that means that its still out there prowling the streets somewhere. (and he just got a newer model of what he had before). Still, you have to consider that there will be people who actually do make major upgrades to their vechicles. plus how can you go wrong in boosting the automotive industry when its having such troubles?
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@iriscot (1289)
• United States
1 Aug 09
If I had a "clunker" and was going to take the deal, I would definately buy a car with a much better gas mileage rating, you would be silly not to considering the price of gasoline. I think it is a great idea, and at least it is a "jump start" for the auto industry.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
31 Jul 09
How exactly is this program getting gas guzzlers off the street? All you have to do is trade in an automobile that get less than an EPA estimated 18 mpg for something that get more than an EPA estimated 18 mpg. You can have a 2000 Chevy Silverado and trade it in for a 2009 Chevy Silverado. If you have an automobile that get more than an EPA estimate 18 mpg you are out of luck. If you want to trade in an auto that gets 20 mpg for something that get 40 mpg you are out of luck!
@iriscot (1289)
• United States
1 Aug 09
There has already been 1 billion dollars given out to car dealers for the program. If you divide $4500 into 1,000,000,000 you come up with over 222,000 car sales, that has to do something for car dealers to stir the economy and if it will increase the gas mileage by any number it will improve the enviroment. So it looks like the program is working to benefit automobile dealers, buyers and the enviroment, that's a 3 way improvement.
Most dealers are happy with the program and some dealers are confused with the paper work.
You might want to check my math, I did it on the computer calculator.
@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
31 Jul 09
I think this is a great idea, it could also save the country billions in energy consumption. It also will help spur the economy, and increase production of automobiles. This is great for the area that I live in where the automobile industry is huge, and really helps the local economy alot. I think this is a great thing for the economy, and the country. I am 100% for it.
@psychotaz206 (2086)
• United States
31 Jul 09
i think it is good because then there will be more people getting cars and there will be more jobs saved because they will be makeing more . i think maybe they shoul lower the amount from 45 to maybe 25 or 30 that way they may not run out of funds so fast but i know they won't do that,
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@iriscot (1289)
• United States
1 Aug 09
The first billion is already used up but there is a bill that is next up to the senate to pass and be ready for the president's signature for 2 billion more to go into the program. I think the program states up to $4500 but I don't know what requirements changes the figure that a person gets.
@olydove (1209)
• United States
1 Aug 09
Well I am happy about it and disappointed as well. I'm happy about it because it is boosting the auto industry, saving jobs, and enabling more long term success for the dealerships, as people are purchasing new vehicles and with that comes new 3-5 year contracts. In some cases people are turning in their vehicles for more fuel efficient ones while others are just getting a newer model of the one they already had.
My disappointment is that for someone like myself who has a 1996 dodge caravan that does qualify for the program, my income limitations and credit make it near impossible for me to participate. I think they should make the program work to where someone like myself can also come in and trade in a vehicle like mine for even a used vehicle that gets better mileage and maybe puts out less emissions too. For example if I could trade in my caravan, get a decent rebate for it plus pay a little bit of cash say $800 or $1,000 for a used 4 door 4 cyl. vehicle that maybe 22 mpg rather than 18 and not be stuck with 2 or 3 years of payments.
I am glad though that they have the program going it does seem to be working to an extent and is providing positive effects for the industry.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
2 Aug 09
It's great to see that you're smart enough to know that you can't really afford a new car. I'm afraid this program will lead to more fiscally irresponsible people getting new cars that are later repossessed because of missed payments. Too many people are jumping on this without thinking about the long term effects.
I agree that they should be pushing used cars with good mpg. Cars have been getting over 30mpg for a long time. My 10 year old Mazda Protege gets up to 32mpg on a tank if I'm lucky.
@iriscot (1289)
• United States
1 Aug 09
olydove you have a good point there, I am about in the same position you are. I have a 2000 LeSabre, that I like very much but it has a problem in the transmission. It won't shift into overdrive and therefore doesn't get the gas mileage that we used to enjoy. The dealer wants almost $2000.00 to replace the transmission or repair it. He has a 2004 LeSabre that I would really like to buy but he won't give me very much for mine for a trade in.
Regardless it is a great program and there will be another 2 billion to keep it going soon.
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