British girl fights for life with swine flu in Athens. Why did she still travel?
By katerina
@thea09 (18305)
Greece
August 2, 2009 5:10am CST
The headline in the newspapers is 'British schoolgirl fights for life with swine flu in Athens hospital'.
Reading this headline, whilst having much sympathy for the girl and her family, we presume that this girl contracted the virus whilst holidaying in Greece, thus making others think that Greece has become an unsafe place to travel to. This is not so, the girl is desperately ill because her parents took so long to seek help for their daughter who contracted the virus in London and then continued on her holiday.
Do you think this headline is misleading too? And how was she allowed to still travel?
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
2 Aug 09
If people would stay home when they are sick things like that would not spread but they want do it.. when i worked my customer's would come in the shop sick, some running a temp, etc. it always made me mad when they did that, very inconsiderate but they had to get that hair fixed no matter what. Seems to me the headline is misleading. I hear what u are saying!!
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
2 Aug 09
HI THEA, Actually it is 3 in the afternoon here. It is ridiculous that people do that. Are u a teacher? would u tell me what picato means? Hope ur day has gone well.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Aug 09
Hi Jo, still the afternoon there, it's just gone midnight here but no possibility of sleep with the humidity still so high. 'Pierato' is just the Greek word for the general fever which hits every winter, one or two days and they are usually as right as rain. And no,I don't teach, though have done some private tuition in the past, I prefer one to one rather than a classful of children all at once.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Aug 09
Hi Jo, hope you're having a nice evening if indeed it is evening there.
I also wish that sick people wouldn't run around spreading their germs, it's crazy every winter here when parents send their child to school with a fever, the pierato which comes round each winter regular as clockwork. They know that the teachers will send them home as soon as they spot it but not before they've probably infected half the class.
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@dolphin2406 (1224)
• Poland
2 Aug 09
Hi, sometimes the media leaves room for misinterpretation since they don't give all details or may be unknown until time of publishing. well swine flu seems to have spread in all countries. In Malta the first known cases were in June when some people cam back from Spain. then we started having others coming from Uk and other countries it now spread between locals but thankfully many have already recovered from it.
I will still go on holiday next month since it is the same I could either get infected here or there. Everyone needs to keep good hygiene so to avoid such infection.
If the parents did not take this girl at the first signs it was their bad. It is said that the symptoms are similar to normal flu so some people thought it was nothing.
Happy mylotting!
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Aug 09
Hi dolphin, travel advice is that if someone has normal flu symptoms to have them checked out and I'm sure that if people do have to be hospitalised abroad then they would much prefer actually to be in their own country.
Personally I think there was no need for the headline to be so misleading as the facts are reported further down in the report. You are right to say the flu should not stop people from travelling as it can be contracted anywhere, but they should not be travelling if they already have symptoms.
@dolphin2406 (1224)
• Poland
2 Aug 09
No if you have symptoms you should consult a doctor to check if it is the swine flu, if yes people here are being told to stay home in quarantine. A friend of mine told me she had the symptoms and had to wear a mask at home so that nobody else gets infected either. They have to stay at home for 7 days as during that time there is a chance the virus comes out. But thank God she is fine now and back to normal life.
@nancyrowina (3850)
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3 Aug 09
There hasn't been a lot of information given about swine flu in England, many are saying not enough. We haven't been told not to travel on holidays for example even though it started in Mexico and children who were on holiday from England in Japan got quarantined. And do you know there are no symptoms of swine flu for the first 2 days? So the girls parents probably didn't know she had it when they set out on holiday. I don't think the headline is misleading at all it doesn't matter where she got it, it's turning into a global pandemic soon every country in the world will have it. It was already in Greece anyway so she may have caught it there we don't know, this article says the number of cases in Greece hit 730 3 days ago so you are no more or less safe from there than anywhere else in the world.
http://www.sofiaecho.com/2009/07/30/763981_number-of-swine-flu-cases-in-greece-reaches-730
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Aug 09
Hi nancyrowina, I wasn't intending to start a controversial subject at all, I just found the headline annoying when the article itself stated that she became ill in London. What is known is that by ignoring her symptoms until she actually collapsed in a critical condition, symptons she had for at least 6 days, it has caused her condition to be much more serious than it otherwise would.
These headlines have now caused claims that Greece is an unhygenic country which is not really fair to Greece. I was under the impression that the UK had advised people not to travel with symptoms, or are they just advised not to travel to countries with cases already developed?
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
2 Aug 09
Hi my friend Theo. I feel so sorry for the girl and hope she will soon recover from the swine flu. I can't understand why her parents allowed her to travel if they knew she had swine flu. Headlines on newspapers can be misleading. Someone seeing that on a newspaper stand might make the person think she caught swine flu in Greece. It might lead a lot of people assuming that due to the risk of catching swine flu visiting Greece is unsafe.
I read about a boy that came down with swine flu on the opening night of a music festival. He thought about the other people and the risk of them catching it. He got his dad to collect him. He came back home missing out of the festival that has spent ages saving up for. A traveler with insurance would probably get their money back if they caught swine flu and were not able to go on their booked trip.
People with swine flu should stay at home recovering if it is mild or be in hospital if it is serious. The risks of old people, babies, young children and sick people are worrying. The girl didn't know this probably but her parents should have.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Aug 09
Hello maximax, I felt bad raising this as a sort of criticism but wanted to highlight this. She is so desperately ill as even when she had clear symptons medical attention was not sought until this case had become life threatening, so along the way how many more people had been exposed. It also definitely implies that Greece is the culprit which is not the case and could deter well needed tourism.
The boy which you describe did an admirable thing in thinking about others and the implications, rather than just his own wants. But to island hop with disregard for others was foolhardy. I hope the girl recovers but also that this has not needlessly exposed others.
@hairypits (294)
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3 Aug 09
Hi there
as usual the media are managing to cause a controversy!
They have left the subject open to many interpretations and we are all at risk of fallin into the trap they intend to lure us into. When not given ALL the facts surrounding a subject, it is very difficult to cast judgement which can be justified. The facts I am aware of are:-
* with swine flu are that you can contract it and carry it for 4 - 5 days before symptoms present
* it most affects the vulnerable such as babies, the elderly, those with underlying health problems such as asthma etc
* symptoms present in many different ways and don't necessarily point towards swine flu such as headache, hayfever like symptoms
* it affects people in many different ways - 2 friends of mine who had it said it was nowhere near as bad as regular flu.
I sympathise with the family for the difficulties they are facing but I think to cast blame in any direction would be an appalling thing to do
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Aug 09
Hi hairypits, I really was not casting blame except at the misleading headline which was in contrast to the facts of the doctors in Athens stating this case was contracted in London.
Medical attention was not sought until the girl actually collapsed in a critical state which could be an indication that this flu really should be identified early on as just not 'the flu' as the dangers are very real.
The controversy has now lead to questions about Greek hygiene. A friend of mine was in the town hospital for a week and his only complaint there was that the cleaners came in too many times, the place was run excellently and the Drs along with other staff wore masks as there were tree cases of swine flu in the hospital then, all of whom I believe made a full recovery.
@tundeemma (894)
• South Africa
2 Aug 09
that is really pathetic, the other time a little boy from the united states flew in to south africa and more than 10 people were infected in the plane alone and now south africa has recorded more than 100 cases of the virus and schools are being closed now for the fear of the spread of the infection
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Aug 09
Hi tundeemma, I agree that that is not only pathetic but irresponsible by the parents. Surely more care should be given to small children with signs of the flu as they are more vulnerable but to needlessly expose that amount of people is ridiculous. I wonder what happened to the other people on the plane who contracted this?
@GardenGerty (160996)
• United States
3 Aug 09
If you are desperate to take a trip and you take enough medicine to mask the symptoms you can probably get away with traveling. OR she may not have been so very ill when she was leaving London, but the stress of traveling weakened her system and she got more ill than she would have if she had stayed at home and rested. I agree, the headlines are misleading.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Aug 09
Hi GardenGerty, thank you for agreeing that the headlines were misleading. The girl is now still in a very serious condition but it should not have been allowed to get so far, no medical attention was apparently sought until she collapsed from it and had to be airlifted to Athens. The reports say now that she did not tell her parents of her symptoms.
@dreamr802 (985)
• United States
2 Aug 09
I didn't read the article but everytime I fly I get sick. It's the weirdest thing, I will get almost flu-like symptoms but not really be sick because then the next day I am usually fine (unless it's my ears which happens a lot because of my ear problems). If I was sick but not sick enough to stay home or anything like that I personally wouldn't turn down a trip to Athens. Then again, I don't know how sick she was before she left London...but you are right that headline is misleading by making Athens seem unsafe because of the swine flu.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Aug 09
Hi dreamr, sorry to hear that flying gives you flu like symptoms, there's bound to be plenty of germs running round at random on a plane though. I don't know if this particular girl flew to Greece or not but the family was apparently island hopping round the Greek isles when she needed urgent medical attention and was transferred to Athens. I am glad to hear that you too thought the headline was misleading.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
2 Aug 09
This latest flu has taken the world by storm. Everyday our papers have news of people infected by this virus. Many colleges are now temporarily close to avoid their students getting the flu when few students were detected to have the swine flu. I think those who have contracted the virus should be quarantined and not allowed to travel to other countries as it will only spread the virus to the host country. See how reports being distorted because of no restriction of traveling to those who have this flu. It is unfair to pinpoint the country she landed in as the source where she contracted the virus.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Aug 09
Hi zandi, I agree that distorted news headlines give the wrong impression. There are many more cases of the swine flu in England than in Greece and to me that headline implies that Greece has a problem. This year particularly we are in real need of tourists so do not need adverse impressions being given.
It is good to hear that your country is taking this seriously to try and contain it.
@3SnuggleBunnies (16374)
• United States
2 Aug 09
I think sometimes people don't think with their heads as much as they think with other things like in this instance their wallets. Probably figured it was just a "bug" or the child was being a pain so they thought nothing of it and didn't want to loose on their airfare ect and continued on.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Aug 09
Hi SnuggleBunnies, from what I've seen this was a girl from a well to do family who attended a prestigious private school (that's fee paying in the UK) and it wasn't a young child but a sixteen year old who would have been well able to voice her condition. It does seem very irresponsible to continue to travel in these circumstances.
@jshekhar (1562)
• India
3 Aug 09
It is really the duty of the airport checking staff to ensure that no person with such illness enters another country. However, swine flu has spread around the world now and it is a matter of chance when you are caught up with it.I don't think its effect can be limited to a particular country. May be the girl got the flu in Greece itself, not in U.K. Since it is not mentioned how long was the gap between her entering Greece and getting flu, we can't conclude much from this.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Aug 09
Hi jshekhar, I was under the impression that more alert checks were being carried out on travellers crossing borders. The report now on this case is that the girl in question had the flu for 6 -8 days before seeking any medical attention and this was only when she collapsed from it. The doctors say it is now so critical as she did not seek medical help earlier but her condition is now stable but critical and she may be on a respirator for many months. I hope she is able to recover with no long term effects.
@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
4 Aug 09
Thea, the media are making Swine Flu the biggest threat to human existence since the Great Plague wiped out over half the population of Europe in the 14th century. One kid whose parents are either too thick or too uncaring to seek medical advice, and suddenly Greece is a no-go zone. It's disgusting, but it sells papers, and I don't think anything can be done. The thousands of people who have had a great holiday in your part of the world aren't news, but the kid whose parents were so irresponsible as to travel with a sick child will be household names. It's not fair, but then us old birds already know that life isn't fair, don't we?
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
4 Aug 09
Hi Sandra, to single one person out in the English press when so many others have it and go completely unreported is I feel something to do with the school she attends, celebrity connection sells papers these days.
The fact that it has lead to slurs on Greek hygiene is too much.