We Won!
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
August 3, 2009 1:29pm CST
Just think, if we relied solely on the incompetent press, we would have a health care law that nobody read... and Obama, Pelosi and Reid lied about!
We won this battle!
Who are "we"? Everyone who would rather have a discussion on medical care than have liars shove a bad bill down our throats.
Way to go!
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6 responses
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
3 Aug 09
"we won" well when they say those words it does not mean the american people won. It means that party won. It is all a contest to them.
As for the bill....as far as I know it has not made it to the floor for a formal vote YET. So we have time to put on a lot of preasure and stop it.
We are going to have to pull out all the stops to do it but it can be done. IF enough of us will stand up and do it. IT is going to take more than phone calls. IT is going to take massive (and I mean really really HUGE) demonstrations in washington DC and a sit in. Bacially refuse to leave until they vote it down. (or the national guard gets called out to arrest us all).
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Aug 09
Yup, which is all why I said we won the battle... the war is a different thing. :~d
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
3 Aug 09
oh the war is going to long and drawn out. you know it is. But you take it one battle at a time.
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
3 Aug 09
We must strive always to discover the truth and to cry out when we see something wrong, to speak out whether we agree or disagree so that, in the words of Abraham Lincoln, "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth". Which people? WE THE PEOPLE. Yay us!
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@GardenGerty (160996)
• United States
3 Aug 09
It is important to be informed, and then to let those people voting KNOW we are informed. If I could believe that everyone would have free access to good medical care, I would be on the bandwagon. I just do not believe that everyone will be served equally well, and I do not believe that the government can manage anything well.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
3 Aug 09
It is a small victory. Getting many of the Congresspeople to read the bill (and many pledged they would)and try to work out the details is almost a miracle. However, they still have a lot of details to work out and I hope if they finally pass something it will be practical improvements without trying to remake the whole system.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Aug 09
Unfortunately viable solutions to our medical care problems is the furthest from The Central Committee's mind here.
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@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
4 Aug 09
Even so, I'm hoping enough of them get an earful from their constituents during the break to make them take a good hard look at the issue.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
3 Aug 09
theres so much crap being slung, that we all forget a lot of people cannot afford food and health care both. I want everyoone to have adequate health care not just middle class and upper wealthy people. You work or search for work, you need to be healthy, obama wants to help all of us. forget the scare tactics as helping those who dont have insurance get good health c are is a must for all of us.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Aug 09
Ok, but none of that was helped with these bills. Even if you are for universal health care, that doesn't mean that the House and Senate bills are good ones.
Those who are for universal health care should be exposing this bill for what it is the loudest. It has a lot more to do with bureaucracy and invasion of privacy than it has to do with health care.
@RhythmWalker1 (825)
• United States
3 Aug 09
Oh, and I take it that you are listening to all of this trumped up bull crap that is being spread by reporters that have decided that this plan will try and exterminate the elders? Some party pays them to come up with this crap and I
can't believe anyone with common sense would fall for it.
To me, the changes that Congress has made to the original plan Obama had are
the REAL problem.
So, our Congress will take a vacation and then come back and ask for a recess
so they can read the bill and hash it over when they get back.
I could live for 10 years off of the salary they each make it one year...
There is the problem with America!
We pay ALL of our Government Officials too DAYM much.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
3 Aug 09
It's not about trumped up bullcrap, it's about a bill that nearly got passed without being read. One Democrat, Conyers I believe, even mocked the idea of reading the bill before he voted for it. He said he's not going to waste two days and have two lawyers read the bill before voting for it (note, Conyers himself is a lawyer). That's ridiculous. In the meantime regular people like me, without law degrees, read this of our own free will and we aren't being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to read it like the morons in congress.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Aug 09
No, I took one step further and did the one thing Pelosi, Reid and Obama didn't want me to do.. I read the bill. Did you?
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Aug 09
"‘‘(aa) The term ‘nurse home visitation services’
21 means home visits by trained nurses to families with a
22 first-time pregnant woman, or a child (under 2 years of
23 age), who is eligible for medical assistance under this title,
24 but only, to the extent determined by the Secretary based
1 upon evidence, that such services are effective in one or
2 more of the following:
3 ‘‘(1) Improving maternal or child health and
4 pregnancy outcomes or increasing birth intervals between pregnancies."
What do you think "increase birth intervals between pregnancies" means here?
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http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf
