What came before the "Grandfathered Health Insurance" scare
By spalladino
@spalladino (17891)
United States
August 5, 2009 10:42pm CST
Granted, the health care bill is very long and I'm still not sure if it's a good thing but, what I do know, is that taking bits and pieces of it and posting them out of context is an unfair misrepresentation of the facts. So, if you would care to read how the "grandfathered" section fits in with the rest of that section, which has to do with STANDARDS, the information is below.
TITLE I--PROTECTIONS AND STANDARDS FOR QUALIFIED HEALTH BENEFITS PLANS
Subtitle A--General Standards
SEC. 101. REQUIREMENTS REFORMING HEALTH INSURANCE MARKETPLACE.
(a) Purpose- The purpose of this title is to establish standards to ensure that new health insurance coverage and employment-based health plans that are offered meet standards guaranteeing access to affordable coverage, essential benefits, and other consumer protections.
(b) Requirements for Qualified Health Benefits Plans- On or after the first day of Y1, a health benefits plan shall not be a qualified health benefits plan under this division unless the plan meets the applicable requirements of the following subtitles for the type of plan and plan year involved:
(1) Subtitle B (relating to affordable coverage).
(2) Subtitle C (relating to essential benefits).
(3) Subtitle D (relating to consumer protection).
(c) Terminology- In this division:
(1) ENROLLMENT IN EMPLOYMENT-BASED HEALTH PLANS- An individual shall be treated as being `enrolled' in an employment-based health plan if the individual is a participant or beneficiary (as such terms are defined in section 3(7) and 3(8), respectively, of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974) in such plan.
(2) INDIVIDUAL AND GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE- The terms `individual health insurance coverage' and `group health insurance coverage' mean health insurance coverage offered in the individual market or large or small group market, respectively, as defined in section 2791 of the Public Health Service Act.
SEC. 102. PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT COVERAGE.
(a) Grandfathered Health Insurance Coverage Defined- Subject to the succeeding provisions of this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable coverage under this division, the term `grandfathered health insurance coverage' means individual health insurance coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:
(1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT-
(A) IN GENERAL- Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day of Y1.
(B) DEPENDENT COVERAGE PERMITTED- Subparagraph (A) shall not affect the subsequent enrollment of a dependent of an individual who is covered as of such first day.
(2) LIMITATION ON CHANGES IN TERMS OR CONDITIONS- Subject to paragraph (3) and except as required by law, the issuer does not change any of its terms or conditions, including benefits and cost-sharing, from those in effect as of the day before the first day of Y1.
(3) RESTRICTIONS ON PREMIUM INCREASES- The issuer cannot vary the percentage increase in the premium for a risk group of enrollees in specific grandfathered health insurance coverage without changing the premium for all enrollees in the same risk group at the same rate, as specified by the Commissioner.
(b) Grace Period for Current Employment-based Health Plans-
(1) GRACE PERIOD-
(A) IN GENERAL- The Commissioner shall establish a grace period whereby, for plan years beginning after the end of the 5-year period beginning with Y1, an employment-based health plan in operation as of the day before the first day of Y1 must meet the same requirements as apply to a qualified health benefits plan under section 101, including the essential benefit package requirement under section 121.
(B) EXCEPTION FOR LIMITED BENEFITS PLANS- Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to an employment-based health plan in which the coverage consists only of one or more of the following:
(i) Any coverage described in section 3001(a)(1)(B)(ii)(IV) of division B of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (Public Law 111-5).
(ii) Excepted benefits (as defined in section 733(c) of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974), including coverage under a specified disease or illness policy described in paragraph (3)(A) of such section.
(iii) Such other limited benefits as the Commissioner may specify.
In no case shall an employment-based health plan in which the coverage consists only of one or more of the coverage or benefits described in clauses (i) through (iii) be treated as acceptable coverage under this division
(2) TRANSITIONAL TREATMENT AS ACCEPTABLE COVERAGE- During the grace period specified in paragraph (1)(A), an employment-based health plan that is described in such paragraph shall be treated as acceptable coverage under this division.
(c) Limitation on Individual Health Insurance Coverage-
(1) IN GENERAL- Individual health insurance coverage that is not grandfathered health insurance coverage under subsection (a) may only be offered on or after the first day of Y1 as an Exchange-participating health benefits plan.
(2) SEPARATE, EXCEPTED COVERAGE PERMITTED- Excepted benefits (as defined in section 2791(c) of the Public Health Service Act) are not included within the definition of health insurance coverage. Nothing in paragraph (1) shall prevent the offering, other than through the Health Insurance Exchange, of excepted benefits so long as it is offered and priced separately from health insurance coverage.
2 responses
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 Aug 09
SEC. 102. PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT COVERAGE.
(a) Grandfathered Health Insurance Coverage Defined- Subject to the succeeding provisions of this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable coverage under this division, the term `grandfathered health insurance coverage' means individual health insurance coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:
(1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT-
(A) IN GENERAL- Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day of Y1.
Ok, please tell me how this allow for new enrollment after the beginning of 2013? It clearly puts a limit on new enrollment after that date. Or should I be reading between the lines, or interpreting it differently than what the words say?
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 Aug 09
btw, Thank you for making the details of the bill the center of your discussion instead of trying to defend it with generalities. There is legitimate debate about the merits/drawbacks of Universal or Single Payer coverage, but that debate is completely separate from the debate about the bills themselves.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
6 Aug 09
You are free to interpret it any way you like, but that isn't what the bill says.
Remember, with laws, exact wording is what the law means. It doesn't mean anything else. It doesn't say anything about what it can mean, it says "limitations of new enrollment".
The first limitation of new enrollment is "Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day of Y1."
So tell me what that limitation says if it doesn't say what he words say?
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
6 Aug 09
Ted, take the time to read what I posted. At the start it establishes standards for Qualified Health Benefits Plans. These standards include many things including affordability, access, etc...go to the Subtitles and read what they are. Existing plans can be grandfathered in even if they don't meet the standards under a specific set of circumstances. The bill does NOT indicate that they cannot enroll new members entirely but that they have to meet the standards set forth in the bill and become a Qualified Health Benefits Plan if they intend to enroll new members. In other words, plans that don't currently meet the standards will have to improve the coverage they provide if they want to enroll new members. Since the standards look pretty good, why would that be a bad thing?
@phildozer (284)
• United States
6 Aug 09
Why are the people so much more willing to read the bills than the people passing these laws?
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
6 Aug 09
Because we have more at stake than they do. I haven't read the entire thing because life keeps interrupting me whenever I try but I will get through it eventually. It's not going to be perfect, and change always has a disturbing aspect to it, but I really would like to discuss the bill on it's true merits instead of on sensationalized bits and pieces taken out of context.