Breaking the cycle - WHY do you 'stay together for the kids'??

@mommyboo (13174)
United States
August 17, 2009 9:07pm CST
This is a question for those of you who are children of people who 'stayed together for the kids', those of you who are currently doing something like this, or those of you who have considered it but maybe haven't made up your minds yet. WHY do you do this? Do you honestly believe your parents made the right decision? Is it out of guilt? To me, this is NOT the way to protect your kids. As an adult, I know that my actions and the actions of my spouse reflect on and influence many more people than just the two of us. In the same manner, children are like little sponges, they soak up EVERYTHING. Not just the good, but also the BAD. What do you think your daughter learns when she sees you put her mommy down? What do you think your son learns when you laugh at his mommy rudely or undermine her in front of him? What do you think your teens learn when you talk to your husband as if he's also one of your kids? Honestly, when you have issues, it is not fair for it to trickle down to the kids but if the kids are THERE, it will. In my humble opinion, people ought to be together because they love each other. NOT because someone forced them to be together, because your friends think you make a good couple, because you've been dating for 10 years, or have kids together. While you do still have to communicate in the future because of kids if you have them, it doesn't give you the right to poison your kids while you are attempting to poison each other because you're angry. Also, angry people who are not willing to work together any more because you no longer share common ground probably are better off separate. Think of it this way, would you really want to put yourself in your kids' place if your marriage is on the rocks, going nowhere fast, and all you do is yell and scream and slam doors, give each other dirty looks, it's never your fault but it's never his fault, nobody will go to counseling, nobody even thinks of how the kids feel? I can tell you point blank I would not want to be that kid. I would probably TELL my parents to get on with it and at least separate so my home life could be somewhat normal, if not normal at least QUIET! Also, what if things have escalated to the point where one or the other parent takes out their anger or problems with the other one or on the kids? So my dad is mad at my mom about something stupid - she didn't make him what he wanted for dinner and I'm sitting there working on something for school and he comes by and unplugs my computer and kicks my chair and tells me to get out of his sight before he has a fit...? I'm not saying these things have happened to me, but if they did, man, I would be BEGGING my parents to end it. Then there is the whole religious slant. There is not now nor has there ever been any clause in the marriage vows that states you must stay with a person who is abusing YOU or your CHILDREN. I think that is actually one of the reasons for divorce that is universally accepted. I happen to feel that if you belong to a religion that frowns on you for deciding you are worth your own happiness, then that religion is wrong. Nobody is here to be a doormat, nobody is here to be pushed into misery and shackled there for a lifetime. Also, people who are miserable and have no self esteem are probably having such a hard time trying to dig themselves out of depression, what else do kids get from that? They should see the future as a bright thing, relationships as good, and their happiness and success as something within their reach, but I can sure tell you that if my parent was all gloom and doom about the present and the future, after awhile, I guess I'd see the world the same way. I would begin to believe that I'd never amount to anything, never accomplish anything. I would begin to think that all I had waiting for me was being mistreated in a relationship myself, and that I deserved nothing more. It's just sad, the length this goes to. Please think twice before you decide that you are 'staying together for the kids'. If there's nothing about staying together for you in that equation, it may be time to consider giving it up. It doesn't do the kids any good and if you are already unhappy, it definitely isn't improving life for you.
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@zoey7879 (3092)
• Quincy, Illinois
18 Aug 09
My ex of five years and I live together for our child, but not as in a relationship together. We were both very miserable towards the end of our relationship. Now, though, we split the bills and how takes on what responsibilities. My daughter knows that her mommy and daddy care about each other but we don't love each other. Her dad dates women, I sometimes date, and those people don't get involved in the life of my daughter until the relationship is well cemented. We're great friends, but we just can't maintain a romantic relationship. If things got abusive however, that would be the end of it all right there. And I agree with you.. I knew a woman once who was being severely abused but wouldn't leave her husband because she didn't believe it was a Christian thing to do. It took a long time and a lot of work from a lot of different people, but we finally convinced her to look at it as "the body is the temple" and that God wouldn't want someone destroying his temple just because they could.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Kudos to you, being good parents and accepting your responsibilities! I'm not sure if I could consider living with someone though, not if we were not 'together' lol. I know people who have done this, they think of themselves more as 'roommates' and they do it instead of divorcing and moving out because mortgages are too expensive, they have purchased things like vehicles together, kids can qualify for things if parents stay together, etc. I don't think I could do it, because I just wouldn't want their life entwined that closely with mine any more. I think one of the biggest issues with people who get abused is a lack of self esteem, self respect, self confidence. People who get abused constantly ALLOW it, they don't have the courage to stand up and say that they are WORTH BETTER!
@mrbranan (1012)
• United States
18 Aug 09
I could not agree more that this is the wrong thing to do. If people think that you are helping the child your are not. That child knows that you are not happy and that something is wrong in the house. Does anybody really think that makes them happy. They don't want to strive for the best because they know something is wrong and mom and dad aren't trying to make it better so why should they. I just believe it would be miserable for both the parents and the children and not a good idea.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Aug 09
It IS miserable for the kids! My parents are still married and we RARELY saw them not get along or be at odds with each other, but I'm sure it happened occasionally. It is downright WEIRD to see your parents angry with each other, not speaking, or otherwise snipping at each other in actions. It is not a comfortable, peaceful environment. If it is like this all the time, or many of the fights start and/or continue over parenting issues with parents undermining each other in front of the kids, it gets even worse. There's a song I think of often, relating to this, called The Real Thing: I did it for you, and the boys, because love should teach you joy and not the imitation that your mommy and daddy tried to show you. I did it for you, and for me, and because I still believe there's only one thing that really matters at all and that's the real thing you need in love... If it isn't real, then it doesn't matter.
@smileonstar (4007)
• United States
18 Aug 09
Hello, you got the point, but most of people have their own rule and we can't stop that either. Life is upto them, people can think right and some can think wrong but it seem to be right to them all the time. For me, I always stay with my husband for my children. One, I just can't be with someone for this long and also have kids together. two, I dont think someone else will understand me like he does. three, as a married couple should be forgiven all the time. four, Nothing is more than your family and why dont you all put it that way. Five, Leaving someone for some good reason is good but if you leaving someone just can't stand with this person then you can't stand with someone else new either. I always hope and pray to make my marriage work
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Aug 09
So if you were being abused, physically, emotionally, and mentally by your husband, and he was hurting the kids, you would ignore all of that and stay with him because you've been with him a long time and you have kids together and you should always forgive someone, even if they are an abuser, and nobody will understand you like he does? I'm just asking. There is no law or regulation nor any good sense in staying with an abuser. I have a friend whose boyfriend was abusive. He threatened her because he did not want her getting a job. He threatened her in order to isolate her from her friends and family. He succeeded in driving away most of her family and friends. She got a job anyway. He forced her to quit because he claimed SHE would cheat on him and that there were men slobbering after her. When she finally stood up to him, he killed her. If she had left months ago, she would still be alive.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Yes he was caught and arrested and served jail time, but he got out very quickly, it wasn't 25 years or anything even approaching what he should have served, which in my opinion would have been life. She wasn't a close friend, but I knew her, and although I wish there was something I could have done, I'm glad I wasn't closer to her lest he go after ME. I would definitely have tried to get her to leave, I know I told her if he was hitting her already she should move on... but she didn't.
• United States
11 Sep 09
i know! its just going to set a bad example for the kids to compare to later on in life.. i mean if they see mom and dad miserable they may think that is how marriage is suppose to be and that you just put up with anything.. my family thinks that the kids would be grateful later on that their parents cared enough to stay together which i say is BS! even if their parents some how do fool them all those years and divorce after they grow up then they will be screwed up because everything they believed was a lie! i say divorce is better and then maybe one or both parents can find happiness and set a good example for their kids