Do they really want advice???? If not, why ask?
By PeacefulWmn9
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
United States
August 18, 2009 8:08pm CST
I have often had people ask for advice, sometimes on a regular basis. Yet...every single thing I suggest, the knock down without even giving it a thought. I have seen it a few times on here, and I run into it "in person," as well. They've tried it all, done it all, nothing works, etc. So...why are they asking for advice?
Does this happen to you? What do think people like this really want?? It's obvious it was not actually advice they are seeking.
Thank you in advance for responses and insight.
Karen
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@jokerwild86 (13)
• United States
19 Aug 09
I they think they already know what to do, but there waiting for another person with the same idea so they know there idea isn't a stupid one
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Hello Joker. That is a real possiblity. I like that you look at this kind of thing that way. Gives me a whole new perspective on it too, so thank you. Have a beautiful day!!
Karen
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
19 Aug 09
Hi Karen!
You have a very valid point to make. I've also observed the same that some of the users seek advice, however, they do not tend to agree with our advice and we also donot come to know whether they were genuinely seeking our advice or just for the sake of it. We cannot come to know whether they actually acted on our guidance or advice. If you observe these points for a particular user, it would be better to ignore his/her discussions. I've seen some of the users are always complaining about their friends/colleagues/bosses/relatives and keep posting discussion to seek our views, irrespective of the fact whether they really want our advice, I feel they just want to vent out their anger against that particular person(s). (If I notice that any of the user/friend is doing it quite often, I ignore his/her discussions).
@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
19 Aug 09
Karen!
You are very right in your observations that there are some typical users here on mylot who do not feel satisfied ever. You are right they just want to draw our sympathy and attention towards them.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Yes, there are those people, and I fall for "sob stories" easily. At the onstart, I always think these folks are in dire straights, which make me feel bad and want to help. But nothing anyone advises ever seems to satisfy them.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Hi Deepak. I agree, all we can give is our best advice, and then probably never know if it helped or was even tried.
But if someone wants to merely complain, gossip, or put another down, I tend to avoid being any part of that.
I do feel that some people simply like to complain. They always have a dire and dramtic situation. They plead for help and advice. 30 people can give loving and wonderful suggestions, but.....the complainer is never satisfied. They've tried this and that and everything, and nothing worked lol. That makes me a bit suspicious of motive. Perhaps it is attention they want, and not real advice.
Karen
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Hello Yugasini. That is all one can do...express what they advise. Sometime the one requesting tries it, and sometimes not. At least when we offer sound advice when asked for it, we have done our best to help another.
Have a great day.
Karen
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Hi Sarah. That is how I feel, too. When someone seeks advice, if I know of something that might help, I will share that. What happens to the advice after given is up to the one receiving it. Most of us want very much to help out :)
Karen
@maygodblessu44 (7336)
• India
4 Sep 09
Hello my friend PeacefulWmn9 Ji,
To deal with such charcters and many other problems, I have following few suggestions/way of application in life, I even might have told you earlier as well. So try out of following :-
[b]"S A T S A N G
If one can practice/implement any of the following, one will owe the whole world, free from all worldly bickering: -
(A) ”If You Can balance / stable your mind, when they are otherwise around you and at the same time blaming you”.
(b) “If you have belief on yourself, when others have doubt on you and at the sane time you strongly oppose their belief of their doubt”
(c) “If you can wait for Good / Bad days embark and you do not loose patience/get disheartened of waiting”.
(d) “Everyone is deceiving you and you are not”.
(e) “ Every body hates you and you do not, at the same time, you are not proud to be ‘good’ and ‘wise’.
(f) “ If you Can dream, but do not allow them to overpower you, and you Can ‘think’ but at the same time, do not live into dreams of ‘thinking”.
(g) “If you can welcome ‘gains’ and ‘defeat’ with open hearts and they do not unbalance your mind”.
(h) “If you Can accept your own words in twisted/mutilated /distorted form happily by ‘fools’ and they do not
involve you in their bad plans”.
(i) “ If you can bear, the items made by you ‘raised to ashes, for which you took whole life to build them , and at the same time you can once again order your tired hands to restart making”.
(j) “ If you can take one chance to reduce your gains in your life, ‘loose’ or ‘gain’
(k) “If you can, after loosing every bit in your life, get ready fresh to obtain the same with total energy from all corners of your body and mind, without uttering a word even”.
(l) “ If you Can compel your heart, mind and limbs, when they ARE so tired and refuse to accept any thing, except that your ‘belief’ and ‘desire’ to order them that they have to march forward and not falling back”.
(m) “ If you can roam in crowds, but do not allow your ‘thoughts’ and’abilities’ to wander stray, and you live with emperor, but do not neglect common man “.
(n)“ If you ARE unharmed by people loving you and people hating you”.
(o“ I you Can respect everybody within the limits, at the same time nobody”.
(p)“ IF YOU REMEMBER THE UNEXQUSED MOMENT IN YOUR LIFE, AND EXPLAIN THE REASON FOR THE SAME”.
Then, the whole world belongs to you only and every thing that exists on this, at the same time you fall under the category of ‘ACTUAL INSAN’, which is greatest achievement in the life than any thing else”.
(OM)"[/b]
May God bless You and have a great time.
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@maygodblessu44 (7336)
• India
4 Sep 09
Hello my friend PeacefulWmn9 Ji,
I know , it is very difficult to remain with-in four walls of those sayings, but if anyone is tried and implemented , one will remain happy. If there is any sufferings, it is out-come of our deeds performed. Further, none of us are dare to confess and explain what harms anyone have commited including me. But in case it is done, happiness always remains at our door. May God bless You and have a great time.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
4 Sep 09
My friend, you have a great time, too, and thank you for such beautiful words of philosophy and wisdom.
They would serve anyone well for a lifetime.
Karen
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@flutterbykisses (593)
• United States
22 Aug 09
Hi Karen...I agree with you. I don't know why people ask for advice if they don't want to read what others have to say.
The whole thing in asking for advice in my opinion is hoping someone can help you sort the problem that you may be having and even suggest something to fix it.
I say if you don't want to hear it then don't ask it..lol
flutterby
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
22 Aug 09
Hi Flutter...such a wise answer. I agree, why ask if your going to contradict every single bit of good and well-meaning advice left by those decent enough to respond to your plea?
Have a beautiful weekend!
Karen
@masteronline (834)
• Indonesia
20 Aug 09
Sometime the people only want to know "what response from other people". And may be they only confuse with themself "what I do now" so the only say without any serious purpose.
Some people do that to look around them, who are a good response and they want make a friend with the best response.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
21 Aug 09
Hello there. When people ask a specific question or for advice here on a mylot discussion, yes, I suppose they already have in mind the kind of thing they want to hear.
Thank you for adding your input to this discussion
Karen
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
19 Aug 09
hi peacefulwmn9 sometimes I think the person is just
looking for someone to talk to, just tocry on someones
shoulder as no matter what I suggest, this elderly lady
says,no I think that wouldnt work,or I have already tried
and its always this same litany. She complains her kids
dont come to see her, I suggest she remind them that they
havent come for a long time. oh I couldnt do that. Then'she says
someone has been in my dresser. I say tell the'
administrator. I dont think she'd listen . She doesnt like
'the food,I say you can order a cheese sandwich or ham
and cheese instead.oh well I'll think about it.
And All the time I am thinking why do you say the'same
dArned thing to me every day if you dont really want my
advice. but she is my table mate and I do like the woman.
Guess at my age I am supposed to have wisdom.oh well.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Hello Hatley. Yes, you understood perfectly what I was trying to get at here. I imagine people do just want to talk or cry on an understanding shoulder at times. I've learned a lot of patience through the years, but I see I still have to "get better" at it :)
Thank you.
Karen
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
19 Aug 09
I know exactly what u are talking about. I don't ever give advice unless i'm ask & like u say they go right on & do what they want. I like to get other people's advice about things sometimes. I have some close friends that i can ask for their opinion & i'm so glad i do.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Hello my friend. Yes, that is exactly right. I think they just want to hear confirmed from another what they have already decided. Like you, I do not give advice unless asked. It is a good policy.
Have a good day!
Karen
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
19 Aug 09
I am laughing because the same thing happens to me sometimes. Someone asks for advice you give it and they say what they are going to do and why your scenario won't work for them. It's soooo funny. Actually, it's a little pathetic. Are they just asking to get a response of what they did so they can console themselves that they did the right thing? I think people do that just to have a discussion and then to make themselves feel better by belittling other people's opinion. I don't know why people do that!
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Hi mommaj. I wonder the same thing, and then why the anger or contentiousness. (sigh) I eventually give up lol. If I ask specifically for advice, it is because I truly want it, and I am willing to actually TRY it out, not just say: that won't work. Or I've tried that (and the 50 other great suggestions given lol.)
Thank you for you opinion!
Karen
@phyrre (2317)
• United States
19 Aug 09
This seems to happen to me all the time. People seem to love to come to me for advice and some people take it, but most people don't actually want to hear what I have to say. I think they want "advice" hoping that I'm just going to say whatever it is that they want to hear to validate them, but it doesn't always happen like that and they get mad if it doesn't.
My sister does this all the time. She's got crappy relationships with guys and she likes to ask my opinion about what she should do in her relationship and when I tell her she usually says something along the lines of she knows she should but that's not what she wants to do. So, basically, she just wants me to say that my advice is to do what she wants to do not what she knows she should do.
All you can do is just give them whatever advice you have and let them take it at face value. Whether or not they take your advice is up to them and you can't really do much more than that. ^_^
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Hi Phyrre. I have thought often the same thing...people already know what they intend to do, but are a bit unsure, so they want to hear their own thoughts reflected back to them. I do know some people, though, who ask many others for help with a particular situation, only to take all the good advice, say he/she's already tried everything in the book, yet keeps asking more people! I feel it is perhaps attention or sympathy wanted at those times, rather than an actual solution to a real problem.
Thank you for your input! You make good sense
Karen
@rosepedal64 (4188)
• United States
19 Aug 09
As for myself, whenever I start a discussion about something I need help with, then I am being real honest. I have posted a couple of discussion that I truly needed advice. In return I got exactly that from members on mylot. I personally know no one on here and to think that there is people out there that are willingly to help with problems is just a joyous thing to me. I think that people who respond with rude remarks are just plain being mean and rude. Have a good day and keep lotting.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Hello Rose. Like you, I have learned much and been helped often here on Mylot by the great people I have met. And I have no clue why among so many good ones, there definitely ARE those few who will be rude for no apparent reason.
Have a wonderful day.
Karen
@advokatku (4033)
• Indonesia
19 Aug 09
sometime people ask actually just for say on problem them. They not really want advice, one more time, just want to know what your opinion
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Hello Advokatku. You have made a good point. Perhaps it is just opinions some people are seeking and not advice. Thank you for your input and have a nice day.
Karen
@Enascent (40)
• United States
20 Aug 09
Yes. I agree with you. It's not all about you giving them good advice. Some people just want you to listen to their problems. You probably are the kind of person who they can really trust and can depend on, someone who isn't so judge mental. It makes them feel more comfortable talking to you more than anyone they know. But beware, some people only want to feed off you positive energies. They really do not want to change. Not to mention, they will even ask you for your sound advice just to make you feel more important. Does any of this make any sense to you? It has happened to you, me, and many more. This is a common thing.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
21 Aug 09
Hello Enascent, yes, you make perfect sense. When one becomes constantly negative or needlessly dependent or demanding of attention, I feel that they are what I call toxic. Their behavior seems to poison those around them, and that is the time to say bye.
Thank you for your wise insights
Karen
@jaggiking2001 (119)
• India
19 Aug 09
I often want advice for certain things, which i cannot decide immediately. The advice should be either from the close friend and the colleague. ADvice is required when there is a unsolvable issues.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Hello Jag. I think we all need or want advice sometimes, especially when we cannot find a solution on our own, or we are unsure of what to do. Other times, we perhaps only want various opinions. I appreciate your input.
Karen
@tarachand (3895)
• India
19 Aug 09
The human mind is so simple and so complex at the same time. Often, people ask for advise thinking that the adviser may look at the perplexing problem from another angle or another aspect than they are looking.
In case you have not been able to do so, the person querying may tell you so, and I see no reason to be offended, unless you encounter rudeness or vulgarity directed at you by the initiator of the discussion. Take a chill pill and leave it as it is. All that you have lost is a few minutes of your time for dispensing advice that pays you about 2-3 cents on mylot.
No offense intended.
Life's Lovely! Love & Live Live!
Live & Let Live!
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Hi Tarachand. No offense taken, and of course, your wise response DOES make good sense. For sure, simple and complex together is a good description of the human mind. Live and let live? Yes!
Karen