Does Your City or State Have a Tax on Plastic Grocery Bags?
By ZephyrSun
@ZephyrSun (7381)
United States
August 19, 2009 6:16am CST
My city had talked about this I think it was last year. The mayor wanted to put $0.05 tax on each bag. I thought that seemed like a lot for a plastic bag that falls apart before you make it to your front door It didn't go far and the mayor dropped the issue. This morning I was reading an article about Seattle trying to pass a $0.20 tax on plastic and paper bags. That really seems like a lot makes my nickel sound good. So, does your city/state have this type of tax on bags? Did it go to the ballot or did the city just pass it?
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@trisha27 (3494)
• United States
20 Aug 09
Wow, as far as I know, my state has not made a tax law for bags yet or have even thought about it and tried to pass it. I'm sure I would have seen it on the news. I think that would be kind of crazy to try and pass something like that. Like you said the bag is only used once and thrown out and never used again. I'm here in San Antonio, TX.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
I'm shocked at how many cities give their customers money off the bill if they bring their own bags, to your stores do that? I know that my city was trying to raise funds because our economy revolves around the auto industry and it isn't collecting much tax revenue with our unemployment at 24%. I'm way up in Toledo, Ohio.
@antarcticpostcards (472)
• United States
19 Aug 09
I would totally support a bag tax in my area, but I do not think there is any talk of that happening anytime soon. I try to bring reusable bags, but I always forget them. I think I would be more likely to remember if I had to pay for the bags. I know when I used to live near Whole Foods and I got 5 cents off per bag I brought and used for my groceries it was enough to make me remember to bring my own bags.
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@antarcticpostcards (472)
• United States
20 Aug 09
Well, at our store the cashiers do not like to bag either way. I always go with my dad and a lot of times he ends up having to bag the stuff. I personally refuse to do it myself unless I go to the self checkout stand and wait for them to do it after they ring everything up. They do not really care either way, as they make it seem like a big deal they have to do it and there is not a bagger available.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
19 Aug 09
I get so mad because when I remember to take my bags in the cashier won't use them. Most of the cashiers will but, I have run into a lot that simply won't because it's "too much of a hassle". I have never lived by Whole Food but we had Safe-Way and they gave you 5 cents off if you brought your own and charged 10 cents if you wanted paper.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
20 Aug 09
Most of the stores I go to have grocery baggers, and the only lines the cashier does it are the express lines which are 15 items or less, some places it's 12 items. I occasionally will go to Winco or Food4Less and I have to bag my own groceries there - which is of course why they can afford to have cheaper prices - they don't have to hire nor pay grocery baggers!
If I have to bag my own, I definitely want the store to provide plastic bags... geez. Let me put it this way, if they have to add 1 cent more to each item in the store, I'd rather they add 1 cent so I pay 18 cents a lb for onions instead of 17 cents - instead of trying to charge me for my damn fall apart plastic bag so I can carry the onions AND the peppers with one hand.
@cloud_kicker_32 (4635)
• United States
20 Aug 09
They just seem to want to take and take some more from us dont they? They are worse than Mosquitos! lol most of the stores where i live they are free there is just one store that charges and whats funny is that its the cheapest store in the area..Its called Aldies and they charge 20 cents for each bag although teh boxes u need are free because u box and bag ur own groceries,thats one reason why the food can be so cheap,but personally i think 20 cents is way to much for a bag..
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
20 Aug 09
LOL! And they don't even spend the money they take from us in decent, reasonable, and clear ways - PLUS they are always complaining they don't have enough. If they are taking 3 cents times oh..... say 10 from thousands of people every day, that's not chump change and there's no excuse for wasting it! BUT... that's what they do, with any money they somehow are able to get from us.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
LOL That is a very good point, they are just like mosquitos. I too think that 20 cents is too much for a bag. Considering I can buy a cloth one at my grocery store for 99 cents.
@horsesrule (1957)
• United States
20 Aug 09
So far our town doesn't have a tax on bags though you know it will be coming eventually. Everyone is thinking "green" thoughts and trying to save the planet and that would be one way to do it, they think. I'm not so sure it would work but I could be wrong. I mean there's people who would just pay it and say oh well, no big deal. Now for me, I would have to get canvas bags because I couldn't spend the extra to pay a tax on bags each time.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
I ended up buying cloth bags just because I got sick of the plastic bags tearing. There's been times where while I was loading them into my car they tore, I certainly wouldn't pay money for those bags LOL I'm sure that some people would just pay and pitch the bag in the trash. Maybe they like throwing money away LOL
@emma412 (1156)
• United States
20 Aug 09
No, my area is not doing this. I am a bit suprised as I live in California and they seem to jump on the band wagon with stuff like that. I think the tax would be a good idea. There are so many wasted bags that get thrown into landfills and never break down. I do think if they charge a tax they should refund it if you recycle your bags. California charges a tax on any time of plastic, glass or aluminum container. But, you can turn your items back into a recycling center and receive a set amount of money back.
I use reusable bags whenever I shop. When I do need to use plastic or paper bags I am sure to recycle them. A few stores in my area do give a discount if you use your own reusable bag. Do they do that in your area?
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
20 Aug 09
I live in California and I do not want to deal with anything like this. I surely hope that enough people don't want the hassle and if it ever comes up we can shoot it down. I don't need any more complications - if you WANT to do that, then recycle your bags. I do not appreciate being FORCED into doing something that is a hassle.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
I always said that California sets the trend then it works it's way across the country now, New York City set the trend and it's working you way. I use to live in Nevada and I hated going into California and buying anything bottled because I never did back for the deposit. I always just threw it into the recycle bin. This tax would actually be perfect for California since the state is in so much financial trouble. My stores do not give us a discount or anything for bringing our own bags, I wish they did. I just take my own bags because I hate the plastic ones.
@blackeyedcat69 (6)
• United States
20 Aug 09
My area does not have any sort of tax on bags, however at my local market if you bring your own bags they pay you $0.03 for each one used for bagging your groceries.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
That's really good that they give you something for bringing your own. Our stores in my area do not.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
19 Aug 09
That's very interesting. So can you just go outside of Toronto and they not charge the 5 cents? My city decided that people would just start going to the other towns to buy groceries.
@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
20 Aug 09
not yet,but i'm sure it's coming.
they'll tax anything you can think of here if they think nobody's watching them.
if they see people using cloth bags instead,they'll probably tax you for being able to reuse it."carryout fee" or something.
@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
20 Aug 09
LOL no kidding.
i actually started using those cloth bags a long time ago-those plastic ones sometimes don't even make it past the store door,they're so cheap.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
20 Aug 09
LOL! That's literally damned if you do, damned if you don't! I guess I'll have to bring along all of my neighbor's kids to help me unload groceries since I won't be able to have ANY bags eventually. I can talk my son's friends into coming home with him on the bus by buying them energy drinks.... I think between 9 of us we can get all the groceries from the cart to the car and from the car into the house without a freaking bag.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
LOL Soon we will see people just taking the cart out to their car and throwing their groceries in so they don't have to buy bags or paying anything on top of what they already have to pay.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
20 Aug 09
That is retarded! I have never heard of such a thing... ugh. Thank God I moved away from Seattle. As much as I like Seattle as a venue to visit, if they start tacking on ridiculous STUPID taxes, I'll be even happier I left and NEVER go back!
I think this is horrid, any mayor who would come up with such a thing is thinking with the wrong head. There is no such thing here and there better not be!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
20 Aug 09
It just seems like highway robbery. Honestly, I recycle bottles and cans and I do it BECAUSE I get that CRV back, as well as extra for any other bottles and cans I find. If I got nothing out of it, I doubt I would do it, because I also have to pay for a trash bin and a recycle bin at my house. I use the recycle bin at my house for paper and cardboard, and the plastic containers that do not earn a CRV.
If the city is hurting for money, I propose they charge very small taxes on luxury items - things that would only likely be bought by people who could actually afford that 3 cents extra or whatever and not care/not think about it. Charging everybody for something everybody uses when it was not done before is going to make people even more tightfisted - or they will go somewhere else to prove a point.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
I couldn't believe when I read they were trying to pass a 20 cent tax, I know that New York City has a 5 cent tax but, 20 cents is way too much. Our city talked about 5 cents after New York passed theirs but, our mayor figured that everyone would stop shopping in the city and didn't put a lot of effort into getting it on the ballot.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
20 Aug 09
Hey Zephyr! I sure hope my city never thinks they could get
away with something like that! You're sure right about those
bags! If they don't double them they won't make it out of the
store! It is just getting so ridiculous! I am all for helping
save the earth, but when I go grocery shopping I do it just
about for three weeks at a time because I don't have a car
and can't afford to keep going back and forth in a taxi! So
I couldn't even afford to pay for the bags and the taxi fare!
Would the city like to pay for my ride? I doubt it!
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
20 Aug 09
Half of my stuff is always double bagged too. Honestly, I'm looking at convenience here. I never use paper because I cannot carry it easily. I try to make one or two trips with the bags from the car to the house - or the bags/handles bust and I really don't need busted eggs or exploded bottles of something. I also figure there are enough people who bring those cloth bags... heh, just one of you makes up for me. I agree with the baggers, I do think it's a hassle.
@jb78000 (15139)
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19 Aug 09
well here some shops are charging for plastic bags. to be honest it seems like a fairly harmless tax to me because you don't have to pay it if you take a reuseable one along and plastic bags are pretty wasteful. what some other shops do here, which i think is liable to go down better is giving shoppers extra points on their loyalty cards (roughly equivalent to what the shop would spend on carrier bags, i.e.not much) when they reuse bags. carrot versus stick.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
19 Aug 09
When I lived in the Western US the grocery stores charged if you wanted paper, I believe it was 10 cents and plastic was free. If you brought your own paper bags than for each one you got 5 cents off of your total bill. In my area I am not aware of any stores charging for bags but, I take my own cloth bags. So you're right it is a fair tax but, 20 cents seems a little high for a bag that won't make it to the front door
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Well here when the store charges for the bags they actually keep it, they say it is to help cut costs. If the charge is actually a tax than it must be turned over to the city or state whichever imposed the tax. I don't think that it is an "erosion of freedoms" but, with the economy the way that it is I wonder how people can afford to go grocery shopping. When I go to the grocery store when the economy is good my normal bill is close to $300 and I have at least a cart full of groceries I couldn't imagine how many bags that would be but, my best guess would be 20 or more, so if I lived in Seattle that would be an additional $4.00.
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@fruitcakeliz (2639)
• United States
19 Aug 09
I haven't heard about any laws such as this in the works in my area, but i do know that many stores are pushing towards becoming "bag free" stores. Some have already stopped supplying plastic or paper bags, and if you don't bring your own, or want to purchase some of the reusable bags (which have gotten fairly cheap not and are made out of recylcled materials) you have to carry your items loose.
I work in a grocery store, and when i first started there almost 10 years ago, we used to offer 5 cents off your bill for each paper or cloth bag you brought in to be reused and 2 cents off your bill for each plastic one, then we eventually did away with the plastic credit..and only gave credit for paper or reusable totes. Now we don't even offer that, but it is because so many people have switched to brigning their own bags that we were loosing money! For the first month of so that we quit giving the credit, we gave customers who brought in their wn bag a free reusable fold up tote bag to add to their collection for future use.
I think last i read in the info from my store, something like 35% of shoppers now bring in their own bags....which is great for the environment..and personally..when i have to go help out at the registers because we are busy, i PREFER bagging our customers groceries in tote bags opposed to plastic, as they can hold so much more and are vver sturdy.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
Another great idea, washing the bags. I had thought of washing them because I am a clean freak but, I was afraid they would fall apart. I know I couldn't wash my insulated bags but, they have a vinal cover that I could just use a sani-wipe on it. I know being a cashier is a thankless job I did it a number of years ago, and I really do understand that the cashiers hate me and my coupons but, the enviroment is a little too important to not use the cloth bags.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
19 Aug 09
You're awesome! My cashiers at my store gets so put out by having to use my cloth bags. I like having my own bags because I have the insulated ones since I drive about 30 minutes to the grocery store. I had one cashier say, that isn't from our store, like I wasn't being loyal to them so they were mad LOL I said yeah I know but look how big it is, I went to that store and only bought the bag so you can bag my bread and not smash it.
I was actually amazed when my city wanted to tax plastic bags because they started putting out the number of how many of these bags were in landfills and "floating" around the city. I really just everyone recycled theirs since everytime I drop my in the bin at the store it's overflowing.
@fruitcakeliz (2639)
• United States
20 Aug 09
thanks for the awesomness rating LOL
I would never ever get after a customer about using bags form another store, as that totally defeats the purpose of using reusable bags! i mean, what, do they expect you to have a number of bags form every store you ever shop at?
The only thing that ever bothers me about people brigning in their own bags, are the condition of some of the bags (though i never say anythig to a customer as that would be rude) some of these bags are so stained a filthy, i coudln't image wanting to put my food in them. they are made of cloth people, WASH them. First, it is gross to expect us to handle a bag that is stained with who knows what, and secondly, do you REALLY want me putitng your fresh meat and vegetables in a bag that is dirty and will contaminate them? I wish i could just leave a little note inside the bag saying "for your health and safty, please give me a good washing before using me again" LoL
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@jimntam (93)
• United States
21 Aug 09
We don't have a tax on our plastic bags, but like some other people have commented, we do have some discount grocery stores that charge for their bags. I always mean to bring in my own plastic bags when I go there, but always forget to. Several years ago one of those store chains came up with a brilliant idea of how to keep their parking lots clean of stray carts. Hense, cutting their cost. To get a cart you have to put a quarter in a slot on the cart to release it from the bunch. When your done if you hook it back up in the cart corale you get your quarter back. Pretty smart, hey?
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Aug 09
We have one of those stores in my area it is a great idea. I don't know how many times I have gone to other stores and there isn't any carts, or the ones that are left have wheels that don't work correctly.
@qwertyu6171 (73)
• China
19 Aug 09
I laughed after reading your post,but don't get me wrong in here I don't get the idea.Maybe everyone could have a party list,but I don't want they will do on congress if ever they had the chance to enter.What will be their concern,they have to present it to people transparently.In the first place,the name itself show it in bad way,Sabong or Cockfingting is like gambing.What help can they offer to public?they should explain it so that they will not be judge.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
19 Aug 09
Well this is more at a local or state level, not a federal. And, most cities are really hurting for funding since our economy is so bad. My city has come up with so many ideas on raising money that this tax on plastic bags was one of them. They also raised our trash collection fee from $10 every 3 months to about $20 a month. When you go to the store or market in your country, do you have to pay for the bag that they put your items in? I've never been to China so please pardon my ignorance. That's pretty much what this tax amounts to, and you have every right to laugh because it is funny. I mean they actually want us to pay for a plastic bag that is so cheaply made it tears apart before you get home LOL
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@flagella08 (5065)
• Philippines
20 Aug 09
nope we don't have that here in our place. i don't think it's practical to do that. there are plastics that will torn immediately and it would be unfair to put taxes on it. the government must put a clear distinction on the types of plastics and paper bags. im sure people in our locality will have a violent reaction when that happens. the taxes collected here are rumored to be corrupted and it's not fair to put taxes on bags too.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
They bags are very cheaply made and do fall apart. I use my own cloth bags for that reason. I didn't know that your government was like that, it's too bad that government everywhere is so corrupt.
@buzzmaker (630)
• India
20 Aug 09
We don't have a tax on plastic bags but I think it is a great idea and every country / city should impose taxes on use of plastic bags. It will help to protect the environment and will motivate people to use lesser plastic bags.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
I've had several people from your country respond and think it's a great idea, maybe it will happen. The only city in the US that I know has the tax is New York City and the mayor claims that there's been a huge reduction in plastic bags dirting the streets.
@chiepao (714)
• Philippines
20 Aug 09
that tax thing on plastic bags are being thought of here in our country. I've watched the news yesterday and it says our government was thinking of putting up taxes on plastic grocery bags. I don't know if this really should be pursued or not, but there are pros and cons on this one.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
That's what they keep doing here in the US. Some of the cities that have passed the tax have seen a reduction in plastic bags all over the city. It would seem much smarter if they just banned plastic bags rather than tax them.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
I agree. Where I live so many people complain about recycling that my city has thought about offering gift cards to people that recycle the most.
@christmas_ (121)
• Singapore
20 Aug 09
i forget about what my system my country place in, but seems that every first Wednesday of each month, its carry your own bag day...
i know my country, Ikea charges plastic bags for a small fee
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
That is very interesting, they couldn't make it confusing here in the US because people would never do it.
@sharryCD (121)
• China
20 Aug 09
In my city,people have to pay 0.1Yuan (nearly $o.o1)for each plastic bag in the supermarket. But the bags in the stores, small shops and restaurant are free. Although its cost is not dear , people here often remember to bring their cloth bags or paper bags with them before going to the supermarket. That is good for our city's environment. Abd the service of the supremarket is great,too. Once the plastic bags cannot be used to hold the goods, customers can exchange the old for a new one.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
It is good that so many people do use the cloth bags although $0.01 is not to expensive to pay well, I mean if the country is poor than it might be. That is very good that you can exchange the bag for a new one though.