How should I handle this situation? Should I file a complaint?
By sandi109
@sandi109 (160)
United States
August 20, 2009 2:01am CST
I just went to the dentist today for what I thought was just going to be a couple of cavities. I got a little more than I bargained for. I had been told previously I had one small cavity that needed a filling and another even smaller one that only needed to be sealed. Seems this involves using a laser to burn it away. Did I mention I have dental anxiety and need to take medicine for oral sedation to calm me for procedures. I hate needles and drills. But who doesn't? Anyhow, when I got there and he started working on my teeth, next thing I know, I had wires being pushed under my gum in two spots. One of the areas was very uncomfortable, even a little painful. I felt him working on another tooth I had not been notified about earlier. I was very confused, very sedated, with lots of cotton and other contraptions stuck in my mouth to make it easier for him to work on me.
At the end of the ordeal I asked him why he had used wires in my mouth and he then told me he had repaired on of the areas of my mouth where the gum had eroded. It cost an additional $330 that I had not counted on, nor had agreed to. I feel kind of betrayed. Why didn't he notify me that he was going to do this additional work? Why didn't he tell me about the use of wires ahead of time?
Should I call my dentist and file a complaint about what transpired? Or should I simply wait till my next visit and politely tell him I would like to be notified in the future about all dental procedures ahead of time? Or should I just let it go and assume it was an oversight on his part? I mean, people do make mistakes. It's just when I ask questions, I get a lot of dental jargon that's hard to understand. I sometimes feel like I am being taken advantage of. Have any of you felt you were taken advantage of by your dentist? That when you ask simple questions, you get a lot of technical language you can't understand? Do you get the feeling that some of this jargon is done on purpose, I mean if you don't understand what they are saying, it's very hard to argue with them, isn't it? I would really appreciate any insight you guys have about this. I also welcome any stories you have about your dentists where you have felt frustrated and possibly even taken advantage of.
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8 responses
@iskayz (5420)
• Philippines
20 Aug 09
Hi there!
I have never been betrayed by anyone in my experience in dealing with others, either professionally or not. Every time I need to go to my dentist and have something fixed in my teeth, she diagnose it first, check every corner of my mouth to see what needs to be repaired in one schedule. She explains everything to me, what procedure I need to undergo and how much would it cost me. If I say no or some other time, she would tell me honestly if I need immediately or it can wait and that it's not urgent. What ever we agreed on my consultation that is what she does in my next visit.
In your case I think you can file a complaint because you are only scheduled to have a cavity filled. If the dentist didn't see beforehand that something other than the cavity needs repairing and so that's why he/she decided to have it done in one go, the fact that you are unaware of that, he/she should have not proceeded with it. He can't ask you if it's ok with you cause you are sedated but that's not an excuse.
Do you have any proof like a piece of paper that you're schedule for a cavity filling only?
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@sandi109 (160)
• United States
20 Aug 09
No, My last appointment was a cleaning and evaluation of my mouth and bite. He only told me what had to be done, but never gave me a schedule of what was going to be done. I doubt it would have made any difference anyway. Today I had one cavity filled, one tooth sealed, and one gum reconstruction and yet on the bill it is listed as three tooth reconstructions. So even the bill doesn't really spell out what was done. I was also sedated when I came in today, so I think it was a little shady slipping this procedure in. I might have been a little drowsy, but let me tell you, he never mentioned the word gum in his short explanation of what he was going to do. He just mentioned the cavities, and on recollection, he might have mentioned tooth reconstruction. I don't know. I was sedated! Dentists are suppose to do what they say they are going to do on your last meeting. You are not expecting an additional procedure out of the blue. He did mention fixing my bite, but told me he didn't want to surprise me with a procedure I wasn't expecting. So maybe it was just a mistake. Maybe he thought he had told me he was going to do it. I know he didn't mention it though, because he even told me I would only be numbed on one side of my mouth because it isn't needed with sealing. I was so happy about this. So I was mighty surprised when he numbed both sides. I should have said something right then, but figured maybe the second cavity had just gotten worse. I definitely should have spoken right up. I can't help but feel a little taken advantage of though, me having been in a sedated state and all. All in all, it was probably just an oversight on his part. I think I should speak to him about this though and in the future, make sure it is laid out exactly what is going to be done. Problem is, this office has trouble talking in lay language, but it just means I need to try harder. Thanks so much for your advice.
@de_angel97 (549)
• Malaysia
20 Aug 09
I'm a bit speechless when i finish reading your post. I can feel like you've been betrayed and have to go through the pain. I have been in your situation before, but luckily I'd take the control before they overcharge me.
Last 3 months i had my chicken pox, so we as a student we have coupon to go for clinic panel that under our school. So i met this doctor and he told me about the medicine that I'm going to take, he mention the medical things, which i totally have no idea about it. This is the first time I had a chicken pox, i don't know if there is any medicine we need to take, as what i know is that it will naturally gone in two weeks. So, finish meeting the doctor and go through all the medical terms, i went out and wait for the medicine. The nurse called out my name and gave me the medicine and told me the amount i need to pay.I have to coupons with me with each cost $35, so i have $70 to pay them. With that 2 coupons in their hand, they told me I'm still short of $190. What?? I never know medicine for chicken pox can cost this much. At first i was thinking to go to ATM machine and withdraw the money, because they pack up all my medicine already. But at that time i also rushing to get to the airport, because i want to spend my two weeks with chicken pox with my family. I definitely cannot make it to the airport if i go for the ATM. I told the nurse, i want to cut out all the other medicine which i can get it at my hometown, and i need to rush to the airport.
Think back of that time, i feel so lucky that i don't go to the ATM and withdraw money for the clinic. I told my friend after that, everyone said I don't have to get such medicine, just drink lot of water and everything will gone in 2 weeks. The doctor and the nurse also know that we are the student, and very rare for student that can afford to pay for that costly medicine. The doctor also didn't mention how much is the medicine and do i really really need the medicine. Walking out from the clinic, i feel like I'm almost been cheated by them. And they took my two coupons, which cost $70, and in return they gave me vitamin and calamine lotion. I definitely know it won't cost that much, and i argue with them, they said, they put a chop mark on my coupon already.
In your case, if i am you, i feel it's hard to argue with them anymore since they did everything already. I'll be more careful in the future, and clarify every thing and total amount i need to pay for all the procedure. probably, i won't go back for the same dentist. Sorry if my stories too long =)
@sandi109 (160)
• United States
20 Aug 09
I am so sorry to hear about your bad experience with your doctor when you had chicken pox. In some ways very similar to my own. You were expecting one thing, and then out of nowhere were blind sighted by a cost you weren't expecting. And you weren't told your options in your matter so you could make an educated decision. As patients, we should know our options in every situation. We should know the cost versus risk. In your case, they should have told you that you didn't have to take the expensive medicine, but that you were at increased risk for developing pneumonia, etc. You could weigh the risks and decide for yourself. Luckily you had a friend who informed you of your options. In my case, I should have been told about the gum surgery, so I could decide if I really needed it or at the very least could put it off till I had the money to cover it. And the risks associated with waiting, which I think would have been pretty low. I have a procedure coming up to fix my bite. I am going to make sure I know what this involves so I can make an educated decision. After all, I don't want a repeat of what happened yesterday. Thanks for your story. Don't worry, it wasn't too long. :)
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
21 Aug 09
I am like you...I hate the noises and I have this huge fear. I think it is my age and being exposed to the old way dentists did things back in the day. Now they have so much more painless procedures. Knowing that, doesn't alter my fear. My dentist laughs and goes along with my fears trying to ease me. I have been with the same one for 16 years. He also knows my financial situation and works with me. I pay a little extra to be numbed up even tho he insists that I don't need to be....I get numbed up for cleanings even. If he finds anything beyond the planned that needs to be done, he discusses it with me, tells me the cost and urges me to get it done asap and even tells me if it can hold off for a bit. He has NEVER surprised me with such a cost. I pay as I go and he would not want to do all that work and then not get paid. If he did...well...I would expect him to work out a plan for payment with me. My dentist is good-hearted enough that I know that if he did it that he would do it because it was needed and would work out a payment plan with me. If I were you, I would call him and talk to him about this. There are some that will take advantage. I have a friend who visited the dentist and hadn't been in a long while. She was a new patient. He told her that she needed 7 cavities filled and a root canal. Costly and she was devestated. I told her to get a 2nd opinion. She had a beautiful smile and in the past, never a cavity. She went to my dentist ...hmmm...no cavities!
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
21 Aug 09
I could not say for sure what if anything is up with your dentist. Maybe you really did have something that needed to be done. the way he went about it is questionable and as noted...very easy to get away with. I would definitely get a 2nd opinion and I would definitly inform the dentist that you are only paying for the work you knew you were getting. I can't imagine any dentist just springing those extra fees on without knowing that he would be getting paid for them.
@sandi109 (160)
• United States
21 Aug 09
Do you take something to help you calm down for your visits? Do you have very sensitive teeth? When they clean your teeth I do get some discomfort in the back so I can understand how this could be really painful and get you nervous. You really made me think when you talked about your friend who was told she had all those cavities. It is mighty strange that I went 10 years without seeing a dentist and had no cavities. Then I start taking immaculate care of my teeth-brushing twice a day and flossing every day without fail. I see this new dentist and I have two micro cavities. Thing is, previous to this past year, I never flossed and only brushed once a day. I was terrible. Now I take care of my teeth and I get cavities! What's more, everyone in the office comments on how clean my teeth are and how great my gum looks. The dentist, hygienist and dental assistants. Everyone! He told me yesterday that I would probably not lose any of my teeth because I take such good care of them. All I could think is, If I'm doing such a good job, why am I getting cavities? Doesn't really make any sense. Makes me wonder if I even had those cavities. I guess there's no real of knowing the answer to that without seeking a second opinion. I just wish everyone was trustworthy. I wouldn't even be thinking this way if he hadn't sprung that additional procedure under my nose. Thanks so much for your input. I'm just wondering now if I should seek a second opinion about my bite. He says its off and that he needs to adjust my teeth. Shave some of the teeth down and add to others. I am worried about this since my teeth are so small. A tiny bit larger than baby teeth. Couldn't shaving them down cause problems. I am probably making more of it than it is given my dental anxiety. Anyhow, thanks again!
@MissAmie (717)
• United States
20 Aug 09
As a person that has had a lot, and I do mean A LOT of dental work, I think I may have a tiny bit of insight into your situation. First of all, it's not uncommon at all for my dentist to quote me a price and then while he's doing whatever, something else comes up. It's happened with different dentists and the one I have now is really trustworthy. I don't think he would overcharge you on purpose.
The part that really makes me wonder is when you talk about the metal being shoved into your gum and the feeling he was working on a different tooth. Are you positive he was working on a different tooth or did it just feel that way? The reason I ask is because there is a little metal band that goes around your tooth to keep the dentist from harming the other teeth beside it. It does shove up in your gums and it's a very unpleasnt feeling. When my dentist does this, it really feels like he's doing something to the tooth beside the one he's working on, but in reality, it just feels that way because of the metal band.
When my dentist does start to do something that we hadn't originally discussed, he is very good about telling me exactly what he's doing. He even offers me a mirror to see for myself, but I usually decline because who would want to see that yuckiness? Gums bleeding, teeth being drilled...no thanks!
Your dentist should have told you, but maybe he thought you were too out of it to understand? I don't know...I hate to take up for your dentist, but I always figured they're the professionals. What do I know about teeth?
@sandi109 (160)
• United States
21 Aug 09
I am pretty sure the metal was put into my front tooth because there was even a metal contraption sticking out of my mouth that he was adjusting. This was occurring in the front of my mouth. Each tooth that had to be worked on was in the middle of each side of my upper jaw. Since he was reconstructing the area of my gum which was eroding away I was figuring it might have something to do with that. But like you said, I was sedated so maybe I am wrong. Maybe my ability to perceive this was wrong. Thing is, it makes me uneasy because I do think he should have told me what he was doing. If he had, I wouldn't have been happy about it, but it definitely would have made me less anxious. That's the way I am. If I know what is happening, I prepare myself mentally. Then I'm fine. When I asked about the wires, his answer didn't make sense. He simply said he was working on my cavities. I am a fair person, so I am not assuming he was trying to be unclear, I think that in his mind he was explaining what he was doing. Only I am not a dentist and I don't understand what goes into doing these procedures. My aunt is a nurse. And let me tell you, she is always telling me about things she does on the job using very sophisticated language that I don't understand. I think this is common among health professionals. I think they should have to take a class in College about communicating medical things in common lay language that anyone can understand.
Does the metal they stick in to protect the side teeth actually stick out of the mouth? Only the one that felt like it was coming from my front tooth was like this. The other one wasn't. Your explanation of this metal has helped me understand it's purpose, but I'm still wondering about how it protruded from the mouth. Maybe it depends on the tooth. Thanks for your input and your experience. It really helps me keep things in perspective. I mean, I don't think all dentists are trying to cheat their patients. I just think they lack an ability to communicate which makes things difficult.
@bird123 (10643)
• United States
22 Aug 09
If he is honest and just forgot to tell you up front, he saved you another trip to the dentist.If he is dishonest, it's time to find another dentist.I guess I would give him the benefit of the doubt. Tell him next time you go that you will not pay for procedures not approved. Tell him you did not approve the last one. I would pay but keep an eye out to see if he is always trying to tack on more charges.If he is, try a new dentist!!
@sandi109 (160)
• United States
22 Aug 09
I have already decided to get a second opinion about a procedure he wants to do to fix my bite what will cost $600. It just seems every time I see him there is more work that needs to be done. It might be costly this way, but it would tell me if he is being honest with me. Also, by canceling the next appointment, I can see what his reaction is. I am going to email him with my concerns and sees how he handles it. This reaction will speak volumes to me. Thanks for reply.
@nonersays (3335)
• United States
20 Aug 09
You should file a complaint now. They should never do any work on you without you knowing about it beforehand and agreeing to have it done.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Aug 09
You're in the US and I'm pretty sure you had a legal right to be notified and approve things in advance, so I'd say you have a legitimate complaint. You can complain to the dentist and there are agencies you can complain to too. It just depends on where you want to take it.
@sandi109 (160)
• United States
21 Aug 09
I think I will just mention it to the doctor's office. I have my dentist's email address so I can lodge the complaint directly to him and not go through the girls at the front desk. If he gets rude and is unprofessional, then I might consider reporting him. Thanks for your response.
@fruitcakeliz (2638)
• United States
20 Aug 09
I would definatly think about filing a complaint. He shoudln't hve done any work on your mouth with out going over it with you first. You had agreed to have the two cavities filled and that was all. What i you weren't/aren't able to pay?
I had a similar problem with my car once. I took it in to have a couple minor things fixed on it, and had tlaked with them in advance and ound out that depending on how long it would take them to fix it, the bill shoudln't be more than between 100 and 150 dollars, when i went to get my car, they told me the grand total was $360 ...which i didn't have as i had only budgeted to spend no more than 150 dollars on this. Turns out they found a couple of other things wrong with it and went ahead anf fixed them with out checking with me first. I had to get the manager, explain to him that i hadn't authorized these repairs and coudln't pay for them, but needed my car. Luckily he was nice enough to let me pay $150 and take my car, but i had to make payments on the rest of the repairs within a couple weeks. Which i did, begrudgingly, and in the long run these were things that were oging to have to be fixed anyways, i just wants planning on fixing them right away!
Many people after that said i should have looked into filing a claim agianst him and not paying the rest since it wan't authorized, but at the time i didn't have the knowledge to do such.
@sandi109 (160)
• United States
21 Aug 09
I also don't have dental insurance, which hurts even more. It's funny you mentioned your experience with taking your car to the mechanic, something I have always compared to dentistry. You go to the dentist to have something done, and in the end they tell you you need b,c and d done as well. And there is no way for you to know whether you really need these procedures or not. The same is true with an auto mechanic. You can go to another dentist for a second opinion but who has the money to do this? He says I need to have my bite realigned which will cost close to $600. In order for me to go to another dentist to confirm this it will cost at least $400 since impressions and bite tests will need to be done. The cost will be almost as much as it would to fix the darn thing. Very frustrating. What happened to me yesterday with the surprise gum surgery is exactly what happened to you and happens to most of us when we take our car to the mechanic. But it isn't right. We should agree to have something done before it is. The more I toss what happened around in my mind, I know I need to confront the dentist about it. How can I trust him? I am worried now that I will go in for my next appointment and there will be some other unknown thing done. I don't want to seem like a troublemaker but I know I am right. Thanks for your advice. I am glad you didn't have to pay anything additional.