Should there be any limits on free speech?
By ZephyrSun
@ZephyrSun (7381)
United States
August 20, 2009 4:20pm CST
I was thinking today after reading that one of the radio stations here in my city gave away the home phone to one of the mayoral candidates to listeners. The radio DJ (is that what you call them on AM radio?) announced the phone number 6 times during his program. Now, the candidate has started getting death threats. Since I don't listen to AM radio I didn't hear the actual broadcast but, I was able to get information that the radio guy is a supporter of the opposite political party of the mayoral candidate.
So, do you think that certain freedoms of speech should be limited? Would you feel the exact same way if say Keith Olbermann gave out Sara Palin's home phone number? What are your thoughts?
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15 responses
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
20 Aug 09
Hey Zephyr! Are you serious? Now that is really going way too
far! I don't think that would go over too well here in NY!
DJ's in NYC have gotten fired for doing things less serious
than that! I don't think that is appropriate no matter who's
side you are on! That is just unacceptable and dangerous, as
you have already stated! I think that DJ should lose his
job and if he was working here in NY he would probably lose
his DJ license! There are just some lines of privacy that
shouldn't be crossed like putting someones life in jeopardy!
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Aug 09
Wow that's amazing, I didn't know that DJ's had to have a license. That's good that some states actually care about the rights of the citizens.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
21 Aug 09
You need a license for pretty much anything in New York. That's where the little girl got ticketed for selling lemonade without a license.
Does the FCC have guidelines prohibiting the release of phone numbers?I honestly don't think this guy violated any enforceable rules.
@elmiko (6630)
• United States
21 Aug 09
for a radio host to give out somebodies home phone number on the air is not just free speech. it was an intention to put a person in harms way which is illegal not to mention this person is a mayor. the radio host should be fired in my opinion i wouldn't doubt it if he will be later. keith olbermann on the other hand knows better than to do something like this to Sara Palin as he wouldn't be where he is doing something foolish like that.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Aug 09
You make a very good point because the DJ complained all the time that the candidate would not come on his show, he was invited he just refused. So the DJ gave out his phone number now, I didn't hear the show but, what was he thinking giving out the phone number.
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
21 Aug 09
No. Just because someone does something with their free speech that we do not like doesn't mean that there should be a limit as to anyone's freedom of speech.
Because limits to freedoms always slide right into restrictions, and then, eventually, to eliminations.
I'm not saying that that's not despicable, but seriously...there's stuff the guy whose phone number was abused can do. He could sue the radio host for example. I'm surprised the radio host thought that he WOULDN'T get sued, in fact.
It's not like we're defenseless when someone abused their freedom to speak. There's always something we can do about it. It's just that law doesn't have to come into play.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Aug 09
I am not one for junk lawsuits but, in cases like this I would love for Konop to sue the DJ and the radio station (I believe it's a Clear Channel station) and win millions so it doesn't happen again to someone else.
@Bluepatch (2476)
• Trinidad And Tobago
21 Aug 09
No. No limits at all unless you're obscene or disrespect other people.
You should have all the free speech you want but if you use obscene language or invade or publicise against the privacy of others or get perverse then you should be penalised.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Aug 09
lol Then there would be limits...Just kidding I know what you mean.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
21 Aug 09
I don't believe that freedom of speech includes the workplace. I couldn't, for instance, tell the idiot at CSX that I had to deal with when I worked for the railroad to kiss my a$$...although I wanted to sooo bad many times...because my boss would have fired me for that. I believe that radio station has to have certain standards regarding violating the privacy of others and that DJ should be dealt with by management.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
21 Aug 09
Well the constitution forbids any law against free speech. The rules made by your employer are not laws. Any employer can fire any employee for a variety of things they may say which are perfectly legal and part of free speech.. Frankly, I wouldn't object in the least if this guy were fired. I just don't think that he broke any laws.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Aug 09
LOL I've wanted to tell my former boss the same thing. I probably wanted to tell me a few more four letter words as well.
@fwidman (11514)
• United States
20 Aug 09
While I'm sure the DJ has the right to do such a thing, I would think that he or at least the program director would have more common sense. If this man is actually hurt, or killed, because of what the DJ did then the station will certainly be held accountable for the deed since they created it.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
20 Aug 09
The DJ and station could only be held accountable if he instructed the people to harm or kill this mayor. Giving out a phone number does not amount to encouragement of any form of violence. At best someone could try to hold him liable for harrassment they recieve over the phone, but he didn't give out the mayor's home address, or any information that would make the mayor more likely to be physically harmed.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
Well like I said before I didn't listen to the program because I don't like AM radio and honestly I don't know if it comes in on my house stero.
@livewyre (2450)
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21 Aug 09
There is the specific instance that you mention (seems to me like a malicious prank that should get the DJ fired as far as I can see), and then there's the principal of 'free speech' which is quite a can of worms.
In the UK, there is no right of free speech which means our police are entitled to remove people who preach terrorism and violence on the streets. You cannot sustain an entitlement to free speech without limitations in which case it is no longer fee speech is it??
The far more worrying aspect of legislation that has been recently considered in the UK is not so much the limitations of free speech, but an active ban on speech specifically directed at fanatics, but which could result in all religions being gagged ie. not allowed to publicly express their views.
So there's the issue, I don't believe in free speech as that allows people to say all sorts of unkind, untrue or harmful things without limitation, but equally I don't believe in prescribed speech that restricts me from expressing my thoughts publicly. I think each case has to be treated on merit assessed in the context in which it occurred.
@livewyre (2450)
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21 Aug 09
Ha Ha it is indeed a slippery slop...
I agree, but my point is once you restrict free speech - it ain't free!
For example If I said, you can have a free ice-cream if you subscribe to my magazine, then you know that the ice cream isn't really freely given, it's conditional...
I don't think you want to kill me, I don't have a magazine, and I'm not really offering you an ice-cream (phew, that's the disclaimers out of the way...)
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Aug 09
See, I'm all for free speech as long as it doesn't infringe on the right's of others. I don't think I should be able to say, "I'm going to kill you livewyre" whether you live by me or not, whether it is even something that can be done or not, it really shouldn't matter. I'm infringing on your rights to live without fear. I don't think that if I had access to airwaves (radio or television) that I should be able to say, "I think that livewyre doesn't deserve to live anymore" because we all know that there would be some nut listening that would say, "I know that zephyrsun was talking to me telling me that I should kill livewyre". I know it is all a slippery slop but, people have the right to live without fear for their safty.
And, please do not think I mean you any harm in any way because I do not. I just picked you as an example to make my point.
@YoungInLove (1254)
• Canada
21 Aug 09
Ah, I dont think thats right. I mean, if the DJ is so opposed to the political views of this person, yah he has free speech to say that he thinks its wrong, or whatnot, just voice his opinion on this person. But to actually give out the phonenumber is going way to far. Thats like someone giving out your phone number and saying "this guy is an @$$ and is ruining your town and taking all of your money, heres his phonenumber" I think that was really dumb on his part. Because this person isnt just a regular person, but a public official, and I bet hes getting SWAMPED with calls, concerns, yelling, and yes of course deathreats. Hes being harassed by everyone because of this DJ so I think he most deffinately went way to far on this one.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Aug 09
I agree. I'm not sure what drives people to think without using the brain LOL
@gitfiddleplayer (10362)
• United States
29 Aug 09
Free speech, that's funny. I know that a lot of people who think that certain groups should not be allowed to speak will speak louder than they will by calling them names or trying to label them as infidels. Free speech is out right under the constitution but a lot of people think that entitles them to say whatever they want and then hide behind its steel power. I would rather have a healthy debate than call somebody a name but sometimes you just have to say it like it is. If Doberman gave out Palin phone number she would just out him anyway, how's that for free speech.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
29 Aug 09
Like me calling Beck a loony? Did you happen to see this show that this discussion was about? I hadn't seen the clip because I think Beck needs some time in a rubber room with his coat on backward but, since I have read the transcript and wow what a nut job he is. He claims Obama has a hatred for whites a few seconds later he said something like I'm not saying he doesn't like white people followed a few seconds later he calls Obama a raciest.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
I think you're right about both parts but, my thing is, I believe everyone has the right to live without fear for their lives or their loved one's lives. It's sorta a no win situation.
@sblossom (2168)
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21 Aug 09
I think the personal telephone is a part of privacy. without the permition you should not public it. I feel sorry to know the story. how can a professional did such mistakes.I think it's a basic rule to people in the world about to keep privacy.
There are no absolute freedom in the world,so we should have some limits on free speech. it's a kind of protection to citizen's right.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Aug 09
Great response. You're so right, there isn't one freedom that is absolute. I really don't believe that someone's personal information such as this should be something made public.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
20 Aug 09
I didn't know that people considered the UK a police state. But, to be honest with you the politics overseas are my weak spot. I am not very familiar with them at all.
@jamzy_amor86 (182)
• Philippines
21 Aug 09
During my University days, one of my favorite subjects is the Public Speaking subject. It was one of those subjects that I get a grade of 1.0.
Public speaking have really helped a lot with my work as a call center agent and as a lector in our church as speaking and communication skills is concerned.
With regards to free speech, this is the privilege that the radio commentators, senators and congressmen have. They are allowed to explain their side of the story or their reactions to certain happenings in the society. But given this kind of privilege, there are always limitations to this because without knowing, they are hitting below the belt and it may affect the privacy of the certain person that they are commenting. Giving out any personal information either a public or a private citizen is a big NO, NO. This is against in their CODE OF ETHICS and they can be sued- oral defamation or libel case.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Aug 09
You're so right. Code of ethics is such a big thing that everyone forgets about! Thank you for your great insight.
@kilani123 (864)
• United Arab Emirates
21 Aug 09
Yah sure , some areas of speech mau hurt people , so why not limit it
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
21 Aug 09
I agree if it will cause harm to someone that free speech should be limited.