Why are we told that TOLERANCE is the greatest thing since sliced bread........
By debrakcarey
@debrakcarey (19887)
United States
August 22, 2009 11:59am CST
and then told to hate the Christian and the Jew? Oh, not overtyly...but in subtle ways the message is put out there. Christians and Jews are blamed for things that just aren't so. I'd like to hear why you think this is...and if you decide to come to this discussion spewing that said hatred....think again. I will report you.
1 person likes this
9 responses
@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
22 Aug 09
Tolerance IS the greatest thing since sliced bread!!!! It's people's intolerance all in the name of their Supreme Being that creates the problem. Unfortunately, those of us who are truly tolerant, are too busy forgiving the intolerant people to make a change in them. We are born to lead the fallen to redemption by example. Becoming intolerant because being tolerant is too hard to keep doing is a sin. Just because someone claims to be religious, it doesn't necessarily make it so!!! My best friend goes to church every time the doors are opened, spouts her religious beliefs to anybody that will listen & in the same breath spouts her hatred for the blacks, gays, Jews & Muslims. Then she tells me I'm destined for Hell because I have NO faith in organized religion. The God I was taught to worship loves EVERYONE. Jesus best friend was a whoore. Yet He loved her & lead her into the Kingdom of Heaven!!! We were ALL put here imperfect & will more than likely die imperfect. If you listen to the religious zealots, Heaven is EMPTY as NO ONE will ever make it in....including them.
3 people like this
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
23 Aug 09
Like I said, I can tolerate anyone living here on the earth with me. I can overlook differences in race, gender, religion. But that does not mean I HAVE to accept the differences as being correct. :)
I tend to agree that there are going to be alot of very surprised people on judgment day. :)
1 person likes this
@greenfeathers (1206)
• United States
23 Aug 09
As stated in other posts, denominationalism of christian churches shows that church as we understand it is geared more towards man than God. Nothing Biblical, as I recall, says anything of organized religion except in Revelations where various unacceptable aspects are denounced. What it says is (roughly) 'Forsake not gathering in my name.' insofar as religious gatherings.
You are the only person I've ever read/talked with who referred to The Christ's bestest friend as a whoore. Folks tend to be a bit shocked when I put it to them that way..and the shock continues when I say that is was that whoore who announced the risen Christ..with questions then of where the sexist attitudes in christianity began.
ENJOY!
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
23 Aug 09
Jesus Christ said if you love God with all your heart, mind and soul and your fellow man as you love yourself, you've kept ALL the law.
@bird123 (10643)
• United States
22 Aug 09
It doesn't matter what everyone else does. It's what you do that counts. Everybody wants to rule the world. They are all out there trying to rule each other.It doesn't take long to find an excuse to HATE! I really don't like the word tolerance because it doesn't get rid of the hate. It just says to put up with things. As for me,I hate no one even the ones who hate. We are all children of God no matter what our parameters. I do believe in interaction and discussion. We are all meant to learn from and teach each other. So I will not hate you. I will make you my best friend. I guarantee you that I will not agree with all that you say. After all, if everyone in the world were exactly the same, it would be a mighty boring place. Since everyone has a different view, man gets a much bigger picture than any one person can see. Let's get rid of tolerance and substitute UNCONDITIONAL LOVE! Imagine how much more we could learn from each other!! If people come to you with hate, surprise them, give them unconditional love back. It has always been hard to hate those who love you!!!
1 person likes this
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
23 Aug 09
God is love, and if you do not love your fellow man the love of God is not in you.
Heavy duty words....hard to live up to. Worth the try.
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
23 Aug 09
Tolerance is nothing more than putting up with something you don't agree with or believe in.
The very idea of tolerance is counterproductive.
What happened to "If you eye offends you, pluck it out"?... or "Abhor evil"... or things being an "Abomination unto God"?
There are things occurring in this country right now that should not be tolerated, and yet we have let those things get out of control.
Tolerance is not a Christian attribute, because evil is not to be tolerated.
Tolerance is why we are now being told to hate Christians and Jews... because Christian tolerated non Christians in our midst for far to long.
I think it is time for some righteous anger and smiting mightily...
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
23 Aug 09
In everyday life, tolerance is necessary for society to function. In a pluralistic society such as ours...where there is equality before the law... we must tolerate those who differ in their views so as to have that coveted equality before the law for ourselves. All that happens when you have no true tolerance...is the opposition will someday get the power...as we have now in our government...and they won't tolerate YOU.
America was built on this tolerance. We perfected it as we grew and became more mature. Now we have tolerance in word only. The opposition claims they are more tolerant than us...but really...they are enjoying their power over us and their true intolerant motives are revealed in how they are treating us. Tolerance is born out of love for God....and his law. Jesus said, the whole law was contained in the first two commandments..Love God with all your heart, soul and mind...and your fellow man as your self. You can do this, without accepting the wrong a person does. In fact, real love demands that you warn him his wrong doing is coming between him and God. That's the tough love so many don't understand when reading the Word of God.
Woe to them who call evil, good....and good, evil. Tolerance is not wrong, it is in the ACCEPTANCE of evil as good that we have gone wrong.
@cobrateacher (8432)
• United States
22 Aug 09
Hi, Debra!
While I agree about slurs to Christians and Jews, I think the trash thrown at Muslims is worse. Most are wonderful, quite ordinary people. Too often, they're painted with the same brush as the terrorists and other extremists.
Tolerance and acceptance are the only things that can stop these unfair tactics. I wonder if we could declare prejudice and bigotry to be unacceptable, filthy words, along with hate?
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
22 Aug 09
I wish we could all just judge a person from THEIR character and not stereotype people.
Besides, even if they were painted with the same brush as a terrorist....more hate does not do away with hate, it feeds it and makes it grow stronger.
1 person likes this
@cobrateacher (8432)
• United States
23 Aug 09
Hatley, you're so right! Most people are too judgemental, and that's a pity. Just think of how many wonderful friends they might have made!
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
23 Aug 09
what ever hAppened to the idea judge not lest you be judged'aS'you do not even know me so how could you judge me? and so often we may be'of fine character and yet the person judging sees only our outer'appearance. they do not know the me of me. you wouldhave to be with that person for awhile to know aNything at allabout his character.
1 person likes this
@worldwidewadi (277)
• Singapore
23 Aug 09
Ah, the subject of tolerance. Being a Muslim, it irks and irritates me when I see my fellow Muslims showing intolerance to other religion. Always hating in the name of religion when the prophet set example of tolerance to the Christian and Jews of his time.
@worldwidewadi (277)
• Singapore
24 Aug 09
Its pretty simple. Chances the intolerant ones are the social pariahs who can't contribute anything beneficial to society either due to lack of education or lack of jobs usually due to the incompetence of the government of the country. When they find themselves lost in this world they thought the ideal solution was to turn to religion. This is where they'll adopt extremist attitudes when village idiots pretending to be religious leaders preach their doctrine of hate justified by their beliefs. This led them to believe that Jihad is the solution to their problems and easy ticket to heaven. They've forgotten or unaware that the prophet once said that ink of the scholars is holier than the blood of the martyrs. The 1st revelation of God to the prophet was the emphasis of learning. It is through there that Islamic civilization grew into centre of learning inviting people of all races and religion to come and learn with no fear of intolerance and also were guaranteed the freedom of speech. These fools have forgotten their heritage. Well I'm glad in country Singapore, the government are aware of the dangers of intolerance. Therefore racial harmony is important for a multicultural society like us. The Muslims here are tolerant of other cultures and religion. There's no room for extremism in our country.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
24 Aug 09
After 9/11 I wondered what had happend to the great civilization and beautiful writings that had sprung from Islam. Now I know...it is being held in trust by those Muslims who like you...love God and show forth his forgiveness and mercy. God bless those of you who do not let intolerance and hatred rule you.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
23 Aug 09
Thank you worldwidewadi. I've read many things on the history of interaction between our faiths. And this current situation confused me just because of that history. Sure, there's been times when rulers of both sides have acted badly and caused bloodshed....but for the most part the PEOPLE of each faith, Muslim, Jew and Christian have had respect for the other. What happened to change that so dramatically?
@TheGypsyDad (391)
• Canada
23 Aug 09
I think if you cannot tolerate your ownself, then you will never be able to tolerate others!
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
23 Aug 09
worthy answer...thank you.
There's alot to think about in that short statement.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
23 Aug 09
hi i am wondering if you mean tolerance or respect. I do not'hate the christian or the jew. Ican respect allfor their own opinions but i do not have to agree And I expect all to respect myown opinions even if you do not agree.and do not report me. Ihave no hatred for anyone unless you do me wrong.that I will not tolerate at all. I think that one should practice tolerance in all things and to me that justmeans I respect you even though I might not Agree with you.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
23 Aug 09
Sounds like we agree.
I didn't mean I would report someone for disagreeing with me. OH NO!
I meant I would report those who brought hatred and disrespect to this discussion.
In this milquetoast society we have now a days....it is frowned upon to say you hate something...unless it is a Christian or a Jew you are hating. I hate ignorance, I hate intolerance. But like you I do not have to accept every worldview or belief system as correct. I merely recognize that everyone has the freedom to think and believe as they see fit. I on the other hand...do not have to be subjected to their hatred or their disrespect.
@okkidokitokki (1736)
• United States
22 Aug 09
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tolerance This is a definition of the word and I personal do not look at tolerance as a good thing.
I see tolerance used as a type of reverse hate. I will tolerate you while you spend all of your time trying to decide how to destroy me/ hate me.
To me this is not ok. The best way I understand tolerance is through this example: you tolerate other people's children acting in a way you would punish yours for.
To me it is just another tool that people without faith use against those with a faith to make it seem like the person with a belif system is wrong and should not be alowed to have a faith.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
22 Aug 09
I agree...I have said in the past, I will tolerate your right to exist on this earth, but I do not have to accept the way you live as correct.
@greenfeathers (1206)
• United States
23 Aug 09
Ahh..TOLERANCE..that's one of those multi-facet words. As Christian folk I have grown tired of being expected to be tolerant (which is catamount to inanely accepting, as I see it) of folks who disagree with me BUT who believe they have the privilege of being arrogantly intolerant of my disagreeing with them.
Some use it as a weapon (as with ALL weapons) to denote authority and subservience. Its a shield to hide behind when they feel threatened and a club to bludgeon with when they feel hateful..and since both uses serve their purposes both are acceptable to them regardless of how it affects those they use it against.
ENJOY!
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
23 Aug 09
Words can be used as weapons. I find that along with the instances you give, there is another way words can be used to hurt...lies are one of the most hurtful and most demeaning of all word uses.
EnJoy to you too greenfeathers!