Are children out of control?
By vikkiz
@vikkiz (518)
August 22, 2009 10:00pm CST
Why is it today that no children have respect for anyone ive recently had to take my sister in after my mother threw her out due to health concerns she was having because of my sisters bad behaviour.
I currently work at a special school that caters only for the most aggressive of children, I have chairs thrown at me, im spat at, i have abuse hurled at me and some of these kids are only 6/7 years old? Ive noticed that there are two sides of the coin when it comes to these childen.
On one side of the coin you have the neglected and abused child who vents their aggression and anger on other people, And on the other side of the coin you have the ''spoilt brat'' who will stop at nothing to have their own way.
Both of these issues are a result of bad parenting.
I know that being a parent is hard but i will not listen to any excuse of any parent who has a disruptive child due to there parents behaviour.
I say this because at the mere age of 16 i fell pregnant, I had to work extremely hard to make ends meet and spend enough time with my child on top. Therefore i dont have time to listen to 30 year old parents who sit at home on their backsides and still dont have time for their kids. Dont get me wrong the parents of the spoilt kids are just as bad! Instead of spending the uch needed time with their kids and discaplining them on a regular basis, They shove new electronic devices in their faces or immediatly buy what the child wants to avoid a distress.
Has anyone experienced this sort of situation and think im wrong?? does anyone know someone who is in the same situation?? I love to hear more as it will give more of an understanding of the issue thanks!
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10 responses
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
23 Aug 09
Hi vikkiz,
I don't think in all cases the parents should be blamed, I think the cases should be looked at individually and make assumptions from that, parents try in a lot of cases some kids are just that out of control, I have someone in my life that is having problems with her son, she spends plenty of time with her son, she sits with him, have him read books, do home work when he has no homework, and yet he is bad as he]], when he is with his Dad he don't give him any problems, at school they always have to talk with his teachers for something, all the time,the teachers want him to have medication they refuse, I don't blame them, he is not slow or anything he is just bad.
So with that said, you can not immediately say your parents are doing something wrong, sometimes kids are just bad, which is why they are with you, the parents can't handle it, its unfortunate but true, now don't get me wrong, there are some sad parents out there, but not all, we really need to remember that.I wish you the best, hope you understand the point I am trying to make. bless you for doing such a wonderful job, I could not do it.
When I had my daughter, keep in mind I had her when I was young, people use to come to me all the time and tell me,you are doing such a good job, she is great, etc etc, I would say to them it is not all me, I am blessed is what it is, I felt that at a very young age, watching other people go through he]] with their kids, having no control what so ever, yes I feel I was blessed, you never know with kids these days, you have to hope and pray that you guide them in the right direction, sometimes it just don't turn out that way. I can go on/on/on with examples as to why I know for sure you can't blame parents all the time, but I will stop for now. good luck
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
23 Aug 09
Hi vikkiz,
I agree with you, and yes in most cases it could be a parenting issue, I won't dispute that fact, especially considering I don't work with children, I am speaking from personal facts, I have so much respect for the work you are doing, I could not do it, god knows I can't, but yes, now a days this is something the schools are doing on a regular basis I know two people kids the school want to medicate, they admit their kids are bad, my other friend her son just could not seem to get with the program, he is doing much better now I am so happy,
I don't know what is going on with the schools, my grandson is the same age as the two kids I am speaking of, I pray he don't misbehave in school,so far he is great, he is always student of the month, he is doing great, I hope it stays this way, its really hard you never know what will turn them into disruptive children like others they see,its really hard you know. I wish you the best.
@vikkiz (518)
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23 Aug 09
How typical of the teachers and govement with their usual bount of ''give them medicine'' fiasco, I totally agree offering medication for bad behaviour is way over the top in my eyes and if i was in that position i would have told them where they could shove their medication.
I too had small problems with my son when he started nursery but with good teachers and me working alongside hes fine now.
It all came down to the fact that he needed more to stimulate his brain than the other children and plaing in the sand and water wasnt cutting it for him anymore, So yes i would agree that in some cases it isnt the parents fault, and yes sometimes there are medical issues in the web aswell.
But one thing is for sure the majority of badly behaved children are in this bad way because of the bad parenting.
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@vikkiz (518)
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24 Aug 09
yes some of the bad kids influence the good kids theres been a few times my son has come home and swore and when ive asked him where he heard that he replys school,Its easy to tell him hes not allowed to say it and he does understand and rarely ever says it again BUT its confusing for him when hes thinking ''well why cant i say it but other children can''??? Its not nice to make your child think your making them so things that other parents dont stop and than your the bag guy! sooo annoying!
@celebratelifeh (1142)
• China
24 Aug 09
well. here is only one child allowed to each family and those parents and grandpartenst really spoiled their kids with tons of love already.i have a 4 year's old nephew and he do not follow anyone in the family. anything he asked for should be provided or he will be angried with we adult...hehe..they need more strict rules.
@vikkiz (518)
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24 Aug 09
Its not really funny though is it because you will be the ones who are annoyed when hes a hormonel teen braying for blood because you didnt get him the latest xbox game, He needs to learn that in this life people work hard for luxurys and that the only reason he has them is down to fact that his parents work hard to provide them, thats the problem with this country to many hand outs, kids these day have their own children, then never work and live on my taxes!
@highflyingxangel (9225)
• United States
23 Aug 09
I'm a preschool teacher and I see plenty of spoiled and children that just behave badly and the part that kills me is that parents think that it's not their problem, it's everyone elses problem, or everyone else's behavior is what is causing their precious little baby to behave like they are behaving.
Another thing that really drives me crazy is the parents that assume that because I'm not a parent myself, I shouldn't have any business raising their children. I understand their frustration and I get some parents feel intimidated that someone that is trained to work with children can help offer suggestions may be annoying if you've done all you can and it's not working, but that's my job. It's my profession. I'm trained how to work with children, how to fix behavior, how to create good behavior and the like. It's annoying when they think that it means nothing unless you've had your own and raised your own. Well, you're obviously not doing a good job yourself and you've got kids!
I think parents today are realizing that there are many ways to raise kids and a lot of them feel slighted because they were raised 'tough' when they were younger so they refuse to treat their kids like that because they just thought it was the end of the world. So we've got kids that are walking all over parents.
@vikkiz (518)
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23 Aug 09
Like i said earlier i was only 16 and my sons father was only 19 but we have no problem issuing discipline, I dont put up with tantrums, screaming, burping.I will admit hes spoilt hes spoilt rotten! he gets everything, but the difference is it works to my advantage because when he does decide to act up everything gets taken away from him which he hates so he rarely acts up, I also took custody of my 15 year old sister because of her disrespect for people and bad behaviour, Last year she was predicted Fs for her gcses but shes had her results now and she even has one A honors And that was result of 11 months of hard work and hell!!! I grounded here and took time off work to go to school and speak with teachers every week or when she acted up, To be honest her storey fits in with this disscussion because the only reason she was badly behaved was because she was spoilt rotten! She walked all over everyone....accept me! Being the big sister i have no problems slapping her back down to earth when shes as a high as a balloon and now shes getting her own flat and going to college to study youth work and counciling so she can help other kids like herself turn round.
Its so much easier stopping them from doing things when they are younger which i found out the hard way with my sister So for people out there that do have unruly kids stop them now before they turn into a raging teen monster who has no intention of changing because they dont care!
@Keola12 (820)
• United States
23 Aug 09
To some degree, I do believe children of today are out of control. Whenever I go to a store, there will be some child screaming from the top of his or her lungs and throwing a tantrum, because they can't have their own way, or they would run around in a given restaurant. The parents just look at the child and tell them nothing most of the time, and go back to their business of eating their meal and allowing the bratty child do what they want. If they were my children, I'd give them a couple on the seat of their pants. I'd don't believe in causing harm to any child such as emotional, spiritual, physical or verbal abuse. But I do believe in spankings. I believe that the generations who grew up with spankings turned out to be better humanbeings because of it. Parents nowadays are far too lenient with their children. And that's scary. It concerns me deeply, because I worry about how distructive this leniency will turn out to be in the long run, when the child doesn't know right from wrong, because their parents failed to teach them. Children should never be abused, but they do on the other hand require some form of discipline in order to make them better more civilized, more respectful citizens.
@vikkiz (518)
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23 Aug 09
I do agree with what your saying about past generations, my parents used to wack my backside when i pushed them too far, I wasnt scared of my mother as she never used to hit my bottom to hard but if i pushed and pushed she would shout of my dad.....And ud find me hiding behind the settee haha!! I knew my dad would give my backside a tanning!! thats what my gran used to say to me aswell ''Ill tan ya backside in a min if you dont stop it'' And i agree that the past generation was better for it i mean they also had national service, smack on the hand buy teachers if you got too rowdy but now teachers are the ones hiding behind thaie desks, and i know soo many teachers who have lost their jobs after snapping and losing it with a student who has pushed them too far! its disgracful.
@Archie0 (5652)
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23 Aug 09
Not all children are out of control.There few of them who really dont care for their elders or parents.They dnt do it purpeir childhosely too there are few things which might have happend in their childhood which may even make them disrespect their elders or it might even happen that they are loved and pampered too much.This is the main reason which makes them go disobedient when they grow up.
@oztoo3 (25)
• Australia
24 Aug 09
Although there are a few kids who may have medical problems most of them simply lack discipline. Kids need to be taught from an early age to understand what is acceptable behaviour and what is not. The problem is compounded by the fact that many parents are afraid to disipline their children. These days even a quick spank can be interpreted as abusive.
Likewise teachers cannot disipline their students.
When I was at school (a loong time ago) kids were sent to the principal to recieve punishment for bad behaviour.This was a good idea because there was no emotion involved.
It annoys me to see children running amuck in shopping centers or in other peoples homes, touching everything without a word of caution from the parents. They simply aren't taught to respect anything.
Parents have learnt to give the child what it wants just for a bit of peace. Better to be firm, say no, and mean it.
I used to tell my daughter I would think about it if she really wanted something. But if she kept on nagging or whinging about it she learnt the answer was NO.
@vikkiz (518)
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24 Aug 09
Thanks it amazes me that so many poeple think the same thing, yet the goverment do nothing to combat the problems! Did you know that in the uk naughty children who are taken out of achool and put in a special school for bad behaviour are taken on trips and get free swimming and rock climbing after school activitys all because they are badly behaved, They also get picked up by private bus in the morning and dropped off afterward, I work with these kids and it utterly disgusts me that all those poor children in normal schools who are model students and just get on with get nothing! Mabe a trip to spain or france but the parents have to pay!!! Just shows how warped our world is! thanks for the response.
@dreamjapan (409)
• Japan
23 Aug 09
I think you are right in saying that there are two kinds of kids that are out of control.
Here in Japan the spoilt bratt syndrom is a big thing. I have the past few months trying to get one child removed from my daughters 1st grade class. This boy is out of control, he has beaten the teacher making her lips bleed. The mother admits that she can't do anything with him. He needs help and now, but the headteacher says he can't do anything (the boy has an older sister and brother, both are known trouble makers). My daughter is afraid to go to school because of this boy and I feel so sorry for her. September starts the 2nd term here and I am hoping that the headteacher has done something.
Also our neighbours boy is another swine that I would love to give a good hiding to, he is older 13 or 14 beats his mother regulary (we can hear her scream), climbs out on the roof, yells at night so my kids can't sleep. He has real problems but because the family would "loose face" nothing is done. Very sad.
@vikkiz (518)
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23 Aug 09
The kids round my area are the same they are allowed to play in the dark streets till as late as 11.30pm!!!!! If my son is at school hes in bed for 8.30pm I dont even allow him to play outside through the day on his own as hes only 4 i dont think a 4 year old should be out playing on roads at anytime lat alone 11.30pm at night!!! Some of the kids who are a little bit older like 10/11 think its appropriate to pinch bikes and other toys left in peoples back gardens! its disgracful!
@vikkiz (518)
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23 Aug 09
I have to disagree with you there, At the school i work at the kids dont take a blind bit of notice!...do you want to know why?? because the parents couldnt give a dam and no matter how many times you drag them into school all they do is moan about the time they are wasting talking to me!!! what a cheek nd im the one trying to control their child why they sit at home watching jermery kyle! it makes my blood boil! but i wouldnt paint everyone with the same brush.
@busybren (258)
• United States
23 Aug 09
I have to SOMEWHAT blame ourselves for our childrens' behavior. REMEMBER YOU GUYS', we were the generation growing up saying "MOM, TIMES HAVE CHANGED." and "Dad, I'm old enough now". We chose to start our own traditions and lead our own paths and believe our own wisdoms growing up, because we just knew better...REMEMBER? So having more younger parents, we are still thinking young. As we grow we are molding our kids into what we like, what we do, what we hear. We treat them as though they are "mature enough" to talk about this and that or have more trust in their decisions, WHY??? BECAUSE WE WANTED OUR PARENTS TO GIVE US THAT RESPECT.
Sorry I'm rambling on. I guess my point is, now that we have given them all this trust and freedom, they are taking advantage and it's our jobs to check their butts. LoL Get me? It's just "level of control".
@vikkiz (518)
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23 Aug 09
lol I agree those were the exact things i said to my parents but i will say i was very very indenpendant, and i still am now i think thats why i was succssful in bringing my son up from a young age and juggling a job at the same time as im too stubborn to let any one think ive failed!, mind you i dont think my way is that bad then you know only to rely on yourself!
@balasankari (31)
• India
23 Aug 09
i think your thinking is right. but all of others may think that you are wrong. but parents are the responsible of the abuse child. their behaviour only can change the child like that. so parenting is important and we do the paranting as in correct way and need to take care of our child very much.
@vikkiz (518)
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23 Aug 09
Everyone brings their kids up differently but i just think theres no excuse for abuse! i was 16 when i had my son and put aside his little tantrums he has now and again he is top of is class and even though hes only 4 hes got the reading age of a 7 year old! Im so proud of him and myself and his dad, I dont know any other young parents in my area who have 1.stayed together, 2.worked hard 3.brought their kids up respectfully and proper. The problem with our country is most young girls get pregnant on purpose as its a free ticket to loads of benifits and a free house, I never got any of those things and it make me feel proud that myself and my partner did it all by ourselves. x