Hooligans return to English football
@madmillionaire (598)
August 26, 2009 9:27am CST
There were shocking scenes last night outside West Ham's Upton Park before and after the Carling Cup match between West Ham and Millwall. One guy got stabbed during the violence and many more were injured. I hope that this is an isolated incident and not the beginning of a return to the bad days when England hooligans ran amok destroying the game I love so much.
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@polo_princess (803)
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27 Aug 09
Honestly i think it is an embarassment to our country, though having watched a series of documentaries about football hooligans around the world, England arent as bad as some that i have seen. But its always the English ones who seem to get branded the hooligans.
Its a shame for the real fans who go there to watch, my father has been a West Ham supporter for the last 35 years so he knows a fair bit about the scene but he will not take my younger brother to the games because he does not want him to get involved in that
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@madmillionaire (598)
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27 Aug 09
Oh no you are quite correct. It is definitely a world wide problem- you just have to look at football in the Balkans or in South America to see that.
Football is supposed to be a family game but when it gets to the stage that people are scared to get their family to a game something really has to be done. I imagine the authorities will severly punish West Ham an Millwall over this one.
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@polo_princess (803)
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27 Aug 09
Rightly so, it spoils it not only for the fans but im sure for the players too, its such a shame.
They have such great rules in place for English fans going abroad to see the England games, they need to try and implement something like that for the games that are based here. I remember a few years back i was stopped at the airport and questioned and searched just incase i was a hooligan, that did give me a chuckle 
@akuler (3531)
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26 Aug 09
Hi madmillionaire,
I didn't know exactly about England hooligans because England FA take a lot of preventative measure before. But I know there is a lot of provocation during derby games.
I have watch "Green Street hooligan" movie before and if that is a real situation about the "football gangs" we can't avoid it. Police should make extra precaution before and after the games whenever derby games played.
@madmillionaire (598)
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26 Aug 09
You just have to look at newspapers from the early 1980s to know the scope of the trouble in England. Have you heard of the Heysel disaster? That was when Liverpool fans went on the rampage and loads of fans got killed when a wall collapsed as they tried to escape.
The police in the UK have done a tremendous amount of work combating the problem and I think they were truely shocked how bad the violence was last night. They do take extra precautions when derby games are played, especially when they involve the likes of Millwall and West Ham, but the truth of the matter is if rival gangs want to fight- they will fight no matter what.
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@akuler (3531)
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26 Aug 09
You are right. There is no much we can do if this gangs want to fight. Most of it just happen whenever this gangs meet at the streets.
I knew about the English hooligan during the 80s' but not after the Liverpool-Javentus incident. Today, most of the hooligan this associated with the Serie A but not EPL. So I think this is an isolated case. And I hope that the case.
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@Boffle (123)
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1 Sep 09
Always seems to happen when these two teams get together. I can't understand why West Ham and, particularly, Millwall are not punished more severely for what their fans get up to. It shames the game and the country, and I fear that, with the internet being used more and more to arrange these sorts of "gatherings", they may not be isolated incidents.
@madmillionaire (598)
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1 Sep 09
I do not think the problem has truly gone away. The authorities have become more adept at sweeping things under the carpet as it were. West Ham and Millwall will get hammered as the FA will want to make an example of them. It is astonishing that the police were caught so unawares- anyone with any knowledge of football knew that it was going to turn to violence when these two clubs were drawn together.
