Watch Out. E-How Is Deleting Articles Again For More Ridiculous Reasons....
@windchimebooks (314)
United States
August 26, 2009 11:53am CST
All of you who write for eHow get ready. They are "cleaning up their site" anew and are deleting members' hard work left and right and this time they are giving their reasons for deletions. Here are some of mine they deleted with reasons included.
How To Get Your Writing Published Instantly. They said this was deleted because it was "poorly written". That was an article about the site YouPublish. I could have seen it if they had decided this was spam, since it's the only site I mentioned in the piece, but I didn't think it was poorly written (I've had over 10 years experience as a professional freelance writer and have had many articles published in different periodicals). Still, opinions are like feet...most people have at least two and some of them can sometimes stink a little. So if some eHow editor decided that piece was poorly written, so be it. Not a big deal there really, even if I don't agree with them.
How to Spot An Albino Squirrel (yes, there are such creatures..I've seen them). Their reason for this article being deleted was "legacy rejection." If anyone knows what that means, please let me know.
How To Avoid Becoming A Victim of Check Washing (a big scam in the U.S. society...lots of people still use checks today, believe it or not). The reason for deleting this article? "Other." That's it, just "other."
How To Get A $49.99 Pair Of Sneakers For Around $10. The eHow "editors" (and I use that term loosely now) decided this was spam. Okay, maybe I can see this one, sort of, if you decide I'm trying to promote a product of some type, although there are a lot of similar articles still on eHow (not with this subject, but the same style). This one was about how I bought the shoe warranty at Sports Authority, how one clerk tried to wiggle out of honoring the warranty when the soles split after a few months on my $50 pair of shoes, and how I managed to get them to finally honor the warranty, thereby outlining ways that people who bought this shoe warranty could get the terms honored. Still, okay, even though I don't work for Sports Authority and am not affiliated with them in any way, shape or form, and was mainly saying the warranty is there, lots of people don't know it's offered, and if they buy the warranty here is how they can make sure the terms are met if there are problems...okay, maybe this could be considered spam I guess.
On the other hand, I also did articles on how to sell on eBay, how to do research on eBay, how to keep from getting scammed on eBay, how to get the best deals on eBay, and, even though I only mentioned eBay, none of those were considered Spam.
Same thing with Craig's List. I did a piece on how to sell succesfully on Craig's List, no other company was mentioned...but this one they didn't consider spam and left it alone.
How To Read A Person's Body Language...reason for deletion here was "blog/opinion," although I included research from reputable professional sources who have studied body language and what it means so it clearly wasn't just my own opinion here (It wasn't hard to include professional quotes, since I'd already had this article published several times before in print publications and had interviewed professionals then for the piece. I kept the rights to the piece and, by the way, when you publish on eHow, you, as author, also still own the rights to any of your work. You are simply giving them a license to distribute the work you post to their web site on the Internet. However, you, as the author, still own the rights and can publish this work elsewhere..although you do need to tell the other publications that this work was posted first on eHow.)
How To Get The Best Cell Phone Plan...reason for deletion here was "common sense."
So, if you write for eHow, they can use the following criteria (the ones I personally know about anyway) to delete any of your articles now: poorly written, spam (which, loosely translated, can cover a lot of articles) legacy rejection (whatever that means), other (which can cover pretty much anything they choose to delete...someone please tell me how "other" is a satisfactory explanation), blog/opinion (which can cover just about anything, if they decide it's the writer's opinion...I don't know what the blog part means), and common sense (so you if write something that they decide is just common sense, even though others may not already know about it, that is also cause for removal of your article).
As you might have guessed, I am no longer a fan of eHow. I was happy with them in the beginning, but later I didn't understand the reason for several of my articles being deleted in their first round of "cleaning up their site" (but that turned out to be okay because I sold two of the articles they removed to print publications later on for a lot more money than eHow ever paid...I hadn't even thought about marketing those articles, had forgotten about them actually, until eHow deleted them for no good reason that I could fathom). Now, these latest "explanations for removal of articles" are, for the most part, at least to me, ridiculous. I mean when you can use "other" as an explanation to the author as to why a piece was deleted, isn't that giving the so called eHow editors the power to just do anything they like with no real reason provided? (And if you read some of the eHow editors' pieces, some are good but some of them are so poorly written it's rather pathetic.)
Please note, though, if you like eHow and are sticking with them, that's totally your decision. I'm not trying to get anyone to stop using eHow. I'm just telling you what has happened to me with this site. As for me, I've deleted all of my eHow articles myself and have sent yet a third request that they close my eHow account (in their FAQ's they tell you how to close an account, yet, to date, they've never honored my request to close my account...they just seem to ingore this). I personally deleted all of my eHow articles that were still on the site because I don't want this site making another dime off any of my work. I can't say they didn't pay regularly and monthly, they did. To me, though, dealing with people who don't seem, at least to me, to be competent or professional editors, simply isn't worth the hassle. Perhaps this is yet another sign I need to get back into the mainstream marketing of writing and forget these types of writing web sites.
There's my rant for the day against eHow. I don't think I would be as upset if they had listed some legitimate reasons for article removal. I can handle "poorly written" (everything I write isn't always golden after all) or "spam" (although I still don't think my article was spam, but I guess a loose translation of spam could cover that), but when you can offer explanations like "other" or "blog/opinion" that could pretty much cover just about anything they decide they want to remove, despite an author's hard work, well, my guess then is the site is removing articles that aren't making them as much money as they would like and they're trumping up reasons to remove those pieces. I wouldn't even mind if they said that, but all this "pretend integrity" of "cleaning up their site" to "make it a better site" strikes me as rather hypocritical. This isn't a web site I personally want to deal with any longer.
Hey, sorry to get so long-winded here, but thanks for listening.
6 responses
@GADHISUNU (2162)
• India
28 Aug 09
Man you are a wonderful writer. This very piece made a delectable reading. I read it to the end. If you ask me the various reasons adduced to deleting your writing are, in my opinion, there only for "variety". In there seems to be only one reason - that is perhaps you are reaching payouts too soon, and too frequenly. May be they want to frustrate you to the point of leaving so that they could enlist someone whom they could get for a lesser price.
@windchimebooks (314)
• United States
28 Aug 09
Hi Gadhisunu, (Really interesting sounding user I.D. by the way), Wow, what a nice thing to say about my writing just from reading what is basically a rant.
You, too, are a wonderful writer. I really like how you constructed your reply here.
Yes, your reasoning is sound. However, eHow generally removed lower-paying articles on my eHow site. One gentleman here said they removed 200 of his pieces the first time around and this time they deleted 100 of his articles, all at one time. He was making a better income than myself from eHow, so who knows? Whatever reasoning is behind eHow's strange decision to remove articles at what seems to be, at times, nothing more than some staffer's whim, it's not enough to keep me working with them. I closed my account with this site.
Your theory about the reasons offered for deletion being simply a "variety" is, no doubt, valid. It's something I hadn't thought of, but it makes sense.
Thanks for your comments and the compliment about my writing. I appreciate both.
@OnlineMoneyMan (184)
• United States
27 Aug 09
Yep, I've HAD IT with eHow!!!!
At one time I had over 600 articles on the site, but the last "clean up" wiped out over 200....THIS TIME...over 100!!! I'm down to just over 250. What a CROCK!!!
And most of them couldn't even be given a bogus reason, like 'spam', etc., it simply stated 'Other' for the reason of deletion.
It's just too much for me to deal with. Those articles took HOURS of MY time to write to contribute to THEIR site and build THEIR ranks!
No doubt I had high earnings....but SO DID THEY, I mean COME ON, they were giving us such a small fraction of the gross revenue from the site. So the month that I made over $1,000, they HAD to make a minimum of $2,500 from my articles alone, and probably a lot more than that!
My advice to all...find another way to earn online!
@belldandy112 (5)
• United States
27 Aug 09
OMG, OnlineMoneyMan! That's a LOT of articles to lose in a short course of time. I knew that people were losing a lot, but unless you have a total number of articles that they wrote to compare it to, it doesn't sink in. While 200 out of 3000 written articles might not be a huge deal, to lose more than half --?? That is quite a stunning revelation.
@celebratelifeh (1142)
• China
27 Aug 09
so that's really not a good news to hear about though i have no account there but i think that would affect those active members there at least. if they keep on deleting articles there no one will active there as before and all will fear the deleting and they won't waste their time again..
@windchimebooks (314)
• United States
27 Aug 09
Yes, you make some very valid points and I totally agree with you. Why waste time there, doing all that work, if they can simply delete your articles at a later date without giving any valid reason for the removal other than "other"? I certainly won't ever be writing for them again and I know several eHow writers who are closing their accounts due to these actions because they feel the same way. So I'm in total agreement with you here.
Thanks for your comments. I appreciate them.
@abbypringles (1613)
• Philippines
27 Aug 09
This is sad to hear. Do they notify you in advance about this or do they remove it from the site without you being notified? I do not understand the reason they have provided behind deleting those articles in the first place. Why did they refuse approval of those articles before publishing when it did not meet their standards? Hmm, good thing I did not venture out into e-How then. plus, I see several useless articles around the site and wonder why it ever got published to begin with.
@windchimebooks (314)
• United States
27 Aug 09
Hi, I'm with you. I don't understand the reasoning behind the removal of these articles either. None of their "rejection reasons" other than "poorly written" make any sense to me either. The things they call spam just aren't really spam, if you read the pieces in question (a friend of mine on eHow just wrote and said she had the same problem with eHow removing her articles by saying they were spam when there was nothing about them to indicate any type of spam). I've yet to figure out what a "legacy rejection" is (I guess somehow I inherited a rejection :)), and that they can give the reason for rejection as "other" or "blog/opinion" for deleting a piece is beyond me, since that basically boils down to one of their editors deciding what is opinion or fact, which is in essence just that editor's opinion, and the term "other" as a reason for deletion of an article can cover anything they decide it should cover, with no good explanation for the removal of the piece.
No, they don't notify you in advance. They just remove your articles and then write you this rather hypocritical polite note that says "they're cleaning up their site to make it better." Sorry, I don't buy that. Mainly because, like you, I've seen some really ridiculous pieces on eHow that aren't well written or even useful, and some of those are written by their own editors.
Also, you have a good point. If they really want to clean up their site, so to speak, then why don't they have a prior approval system before they let anything be published? I'm not sure that would really help, but it would at least save authors the hassle of the work involved in posting their pieces, letting those articles run for a few months, only to have them deleted later for no solid reason a lot of the time.
Anyway, thanks for your comments. I do appreciate them.
@rosepedal64 (4188)
• United States
27 Aug 09
YES They are. I am an ehow member and they did this to me too. I feel like you do. I don't have the desire to write more on that site. I was getting some good traffic on one of my articles. The article was an older article and it was making some good cents. I think that they are running short on funds and had to go in and delete some articles. On one of them they said that my article didn't match the How To description of my article. But since they deleted it I can't check it out to see what they meant.
I'm sorry this has happened to you too. I don't think there is anything that we can do. Do you know?
@windchimebooks (314)
• United States
27 Aug 09
Wow, that's a new one. Your article "doesn't match the how-to in your description." That really does sound like an odd reason for deletion. That sounds a lot like their "other" comment for reason for deletion. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You wrote the article, yet they decide the how-to description doesn't match your article? Hmmmm...
I'm also sorry this happened to you. I can totally sympathize. All I did was delete every single one of my articles left on the site (one of my older articles was also making pretty good money as well, I noticed they didn't touch any of the ones that were bringing in pretty good revenue). I deleted everything I had written on that site and told them to close my account. It's not that I can't use the bit of income I had built up on there, but I don't want to work for such a site. So I won't be writing for them anymore. I'll find other ways to replace the money. Their actions just strike me as too random and hypocritical, and some of their reasons they're giving for deletion of articles strike me as rather ludicrous.
You might try posting complaints on their site. I'm sure loads of other people are already posting such on their community site, so if enough writers post enough complaints there they might listen. I kind of doubt it, since it's their community site and they had to know they were going to get a backlash of complaints when they came up with such reasons for removal of articles. Still, it's the only thing I can think of at the moment. I'm not writing for them anymore so I'm not going to try to do anything. I just don't want these people making another dime off any of my work, but good luck to you. I'm sorry this happened to you as well.
Thanks for your comments. I appreciate them.
@rosepedal64 (4188)
• United States
27 Aug 09
I don't blame you to deleting your articles. Yes that is what they told me. In other words I guess my title didn't match my article. That is funny, because the article had run for several months. Why didn't they catch it then. I think they have hired some new people and they are going overboard with their job description. I thinking real hard about doing what you did. Deleting... OH yeah..Let me know if you find other site to write articles on. I will follow.
@belldandy112 (5)
• United States
27 Aug 09
I started writing for eHow about a month ago, and I'm no longer inspired. I don't have enough articles to warrant deletion yet. But I feel terrible for people who had upward of 60 articles zapped off the site. I have my suspicions as to what's going on, but I better not say ... I'm just sorry that this is happening to everyone at eHow. A lot of people were relying on that passive income that they'd worked so very had to build up. Dang!
@windchimebooks (314)
• United States
27 Aug 09
Dang is a good way to put it. I think it's a lousy thing for eHow to do to all the good writers on that site, especially with trumped-up excuses they've come up with for deletion, most of which make absolutely no sense, at least to me.
Thanks for your response. I appreciate it. Good luck with your writing.