Lying and cheating

I usually try to stay out of discussions on politics & relegion but couldn't help but express my opinion on Bush. He was a shunk. Your daughter is a smart little girl.

Oh, well politics works like this- it's ok if the party that I like does it but, it's a huge deal if the party I don't like does it. I don't even let it bother me to much when I see conservatives saying stuff that I said while Bush was in office that I was called unamerican for saying but, now, it's patriotic.

The definition for a politition is lier and cheat. It seems that these men and women who run for office has lots of skeletons in their closets. Oboma has tons of skeletons comming out of his. The main one that got me was that several family members of his are here illegal and this means that this man can not help but be bios on the illegal situations. This means that Obama will keep allowing these millions of illegals stay in the US and drain our resources. It is a shame but it is true. All polititions are liars. They only come out during election years and they tell the people everything they want to hear. Obama promised change well we got it. We are trillions in debt instead of billions. We are going to allow the illegal immigrants to continue draining our resourses so that American citizens will have nothing in their old age. Obama has spend tons of money taking his family around the world with him. He himself has sheld out a lot of tax payers money as he goes to Muslim countries and other places that he has never been. It is a shame that people elected a man who condones criminal activity in his own home. Clinton was no better. He and his wife were involved in Whitegate. Clinton also had an affair with his intern. He also gave nuclear capability to North Korea. Bush got us into a war but we were headed there any way. Bush may have put us into debt but Obama will keep us that way. I think that all polititions are criminals and they remind me of a mobster family. You know the old Al Capone family ran Chicago for a long time. He killed people and kept people down so that he profited. Well what do you think is going on in Washington. The new crime family in charge is now called Obama.

Apparently you, and most of America, is not aware that a recount of the votes in Florida was undertaken by the Miami Herald who hired an independent accounting firm to count the votes. The result? Bush won. "In the first full study of Florida's ballots since the election ended, The Miami Herald and USA Today reported George W. Bush would have widened his 537-vote victory to a 1,665-vote margin if the recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court would have been allowed to continue, using standards that would have allowed even faintly dimpled "undervotes" -- ballots the voter has noticeably indented but had not punched all the way through -- to be counted. The study, conducted by the accounting firm of BDO Seidman, counted over 60,000 votes in Florida's 67 counties, tabulating separate vote totals in several standards categories. " Now I would like to know why you felt that if Bush lied and cheated it was wrong but if another president does it, it is okay because he's not the first. Let's take Obama at his word - that is, the words he spoke before the election, the ones about hope and change and about transparency and having Washington be open and not secretive. Has he kept that word? No, he has not. It's a poor excuse to point to one person to judge another by. We must judge Obama by the standards he set for himself. He has failed to live up to them. He is not only not running a transparent administration, he has cloaked this administration and himself in more secrecy than any prior administration. He has lied, and the people he has lied to most are those of you who supported him and continue to do so.

Then you must be against the Kennedy family, because they're everywhere in the government, and I'm sure one of the young'uns will be stepping up into Uncle Teddy's vacant shoes soon. That's called nepotism, not lying and cheating. Obama has several reletives from the same family in his administration, for example, Rahm Emmanuel's brother also has a job in Obama's administration. You better wake up and see that Obama is setting up a shadow government, and several of his ex-con buddies are now working as 'czars.' Pretty soon you won't be able to poop in this country without one of Obama's goons there to smell it.

Unfortunately that happens in both parties. By your own example, how many democrats complained about George Bush cheating, but look the other way when questions come up about Obama? This country would be much better off if we held our leaders to the same standard regardless of their political affiliation. What is good for the Democratic party is good for the Republican party, and vice versa. We need to stop having double standards, and that applies to BOTH Democrats and Republicans.

Amen to that. I think people just like to stir things up and they only see one side of things at times. It is hard to believe and trust in anyone these days too though. Who knows?

hi dfollin hatley here thats so right and look at the mess' Bush left for the next president to try and fix. now all the republicans are out to get obama as he is not able to wave'a magic wand and make all our troubles disappear.I am not going to get'into politics any more than just to say I wish here in my lot it'was not so angry when people voice their own god given opinion. doesnt' mylot admins say we should not negate anyone simply because they do not have the same opinion as you have.only negate insulting remarks not opinions,we allhave a right to our own opinions

Both sides do it and people tend to stick up for the side they're affiliated with and criticize the side they aren't. Wouldn't it be nice if people could set aside their biases and speak up when their own side messes up. But it's a natural tendency to stick up for your friends, family, political party, religion, etc. even when they've done wrong.

Exactly. And I have to tell you the birth certificate thing - if true - would NOT have let him continuing running let alone be elected. So much lying and cheating in government. No wonder no one trusts anyone any more!!!

Since you've responded on a discussion of mine and I was accused of complaining (pointing out is not complaining) of Obama lying, cheating, paying people off and having no discerable long form birth certificate...I will assume you are referring to me. AND I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND ONE PLACE WHERE I'VE TAKEN UP FOR BUSH OR ANY OTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO'S BEEN CAUGHT LYING, CHEATING OR PAYING OFF ANYONE. Once again dfollin....get your facts straight. I do not support ANY POLITICIAN who does these things. lying and cheating seems to be the way to go in life though, I'll say that much.

I've spoke up about President Obama lying and cheating. I've spoke up about his refusal to cough up his long form birth certificate and I have even asked sarcastically who he's paid off. BUT I DARE YOU TO FIND ANYWHERE I'VE TAKEN UP FOR BUSH OR MADE EXCUSES FOR ANY PUBLIC OFFICIAL. Once again dfollin...get your facts straight.