Is THERE A WAY to efficiently extract hydrogen from h2o with electrolysis?
By Boyetski
@Boyetski (986)
Philippines
September 1, 2009 12:36pm CST
I have been really curious on how to increase the efficiency of extracting hydrogen from water via electrolysis. Is there any material or chemical we can use to extract more of hydrogen using less power?
Now a day's as we all know that there is lot's of free energy freaks out there that want to free them selves from polluting energy. So as I.
They are saying hydrogen fuel reduce's emissions, but does HYDROGEN by product is only water right? So there's gotta be zero emission from a hydrogen combustion.
Why not concentrate on harvesting hydrogen and directly use it rather than spending millions on developing those hydrogen power cells. I would gladly pay for a fuel that makes a GT 500 car roar more than a fuel that run's like your just pushing it around.
2 responses
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
1 Sep 09
Straight up hydrogen in a fuel tank would be absolutely insanely dangerous, this is one of the main reasons it hasn't been done yet. Another reason is the energy you use extracting the hydrogen, cancels out the savings elsewhere. I have seen plans for devices that are suposed to inject a hydrogen/oxygen mixture in to your car's engine, the premise is that it boosts fuel milage and gives huge savings on gas. the problem is the energy your car uses in generating the hydrogen is just as much of a load on your engine so it cancels out any milage you may save.
@Boyetski (986)
• Philippines
1 Sep 09
I think I know what your saying. You are talking about the supplemental hydrogen for car engines. It's not actually high cost of energy if it's for supplemental use only. I think they have used a higher output alternator that can produce a little bit more zap on your battery and on your electrolysis. And another is they are using some electrolysers to help boost the production of hydrogen.
And for the straight up hydrogen as dangerous. I think anything that has the capacity to explode is dangerous. It's a matter of containing it. LPG is supposed to be dangerous, but human's found a way to in case it and use it to propel car's.
Hydrogen as we all know is basically gas/air. So why not put it in an LPG tank and start from there? right? I more thing, we know that hydrogen will liquify in about -240 C and about 13 atmosphere's. Knowing that maybe some one with his genius will find a way to store it compress it and regulate it to boost our energy need's.
One thing in mind. Are we not changing the ecosystem by using hydrogen? Water in our planet recycle water. Are we really certain that hydrogen after combustion is the same water we extracted it from when joined with oxygen? Or we are gradually decreasing the amount of water and someday empty the sea's? END OF THE WORLD! !
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
1 Sep 09
The problem is hydrogen has a much lower flashpoint than many other things like LPG or even gasoline vapor. It is also expoldes much more violently.
I wasn't aware of the higher out put alternators though, that may be a bit of a help, as long as the engine doesn't have to work harder to turn the alternator. It's all about the race towrds zero point energy, in other words, you cannot produce more energy than you use, I believe it is the law of thermodynamics that describes that, not too sure, it's why a generator cannot run itself on it's own electricity. I have seen a lot of attempts to produce more energy than a device uses, but so far, the only thing that even comes close is fusion, and it isn't likely we'll be seeing fusion cars anythine soon, or even fusion power plants for that matter.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
1 Sep 09
oh, almostforgot. I supose theoreticly, all the hydrogen we use would be returned as water to the environment with no ill effects. It is probably the most environmentaly friendly combustion process out there, if we could just find a way to safely and efficiantly harness it.
@sanjeevdr (95)
• India
1 Sep 09
I am happy that clean technology has started. These thing will for sure improve to help all of us to have a clean and green environment in near future. I think it has to take pace to minimize the fast rate of damage that is happening to environment already
@Boyetski (986)
• Philippines
1 Sep 09
The damage in the environment is slightly slowing down now the fact that we are aware of it. Clean technology or green technology as other's may call it is trying to find to minimize the use of fossil fuels and thats it. They use solar systems, wind systems to reduce the power consumption using power plant generator's running on crude oil.