Those blood sugar tests
By suspenseful
@suspenseful (40193)
Canada
September 2, 2009 10:33am CST
I am due for my next blood sugar tests and there is something that bothers me. Now normally I have to take this pill in the morning plus vitamins, Vitamin C, and other pills that help, and I also eat normally. Yet, for the blood sugar test, I cannot eat or drink anything the night before and also I cannot take that pill that is supposed to lower my blood sugar as well as the multivitamin, vitamin C and other pills that help and not only that, I cannot even eat breakfast.
Now since that diabetic pill -sulf- whatever it is and the other one is supposed to regulate my blood sugar, would that test give a false report and say my blood sugar is higher because I did not take the medication to control it?
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13 responses
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
2 Sep 09
It will help them see what your levels are without the medication. But if you're in doubt, call the place you're having the test and tell them your concerns. Isn't it dangerous for you not to take the pill? I hope not!
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
3 Sep 09
It is not dangerous as there are natural substitutes. I think the reason that we have to take those pills is because in our cold climate the vegetables and fruit that would prevent high blood sugar levels does not grow and we have to import them. So if you are watching your budget, you do not buy that rare vegetable that will regulate your blood sugar. I have to go to a health food store to get those pills that are made from a plant that only grows in sub tropical countries and that reduces high sugar levels. Right now I am taking one a day and combining with my regular gluride pill and so far I have had no lethargy or light headedness, which is a warning if it reduces my sugar too fast. But then I am not exactly strict in my diet. I want to see how it works with a normal diet first.
@Grandmaof2 (7579)
• Canada
2 Sep 09
No not to worry. I wondered the same thing when my husband had this test done and several years later I was tested as well. I asked about this and they said there was nothing to worry about becaue the test tells all and they can calculate it regardless. Best regards and have a great day!!! Hope your hubby is doing better.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
3 Sep 09
I was wondering whether I would have to have the medication for the rest of my life even if I improved my diet. I mean I can see one taking diabetic pills temporarily if you have diabetes two, but not for the rest of your life especially if you decide to change your diet for the better.
@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
3 Sep 09
I think you got very good answers from all your friends. Usually it means you have to fast for 12 hours minimum, so you should not eat anything after midnight the night before and have no breakfast and take no medication in the morning until the blood test is done. This test shows the true level of your sugar without medication and helps the medical team to adjust your medication if and whan it is necessary. Best of luck.
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
8 Sep 09
You are so right, ever since I was diagnosed with diabetes my food expenses have doubled. I don't understand why things that are not processed are always more expensive than processed items. I also have to eat much more seasonal fruits and vegetables. Right now tomatoes, cabbages, cauliflower and broccoli are at a reasonable price. Also I saw a special of BC cultivated blueberries 2 boxes each 2.5 lbs for $ 5.00. I bought 4 boxes and froze them so I can have some blueberries with my oatmeal in the winter. I am also fortunate to be able to go to a bulk food store. A friend and I drive there. It is senior's day every Wednesday and we get 10% off. I buy my walnuts, whole grain flour, rolled oats, oat bran, dried cranberries, flax seeds, sesame seeds and chia seeds there in bulk plus any spices I need. The spices usually cost a few pennies to fill up a spice bottle while the brand names in the supermarket cost over $2.00.
As far as your theory goes as to where diabetes comes from, I wonder if you would find it beneficial to join a Diabetes support group or diabetes program offered by your hospital. You get valuable information for instance diabetes is caused by factors such as genetics, life style, obesity and age. Also certain groups such as indigenous people (Indians), Mexicans, Afro-Canadians and Afro-Americans are more prone to become diabetic, so your theory of subtopic climates preventing diabetes can not be correct. I think we don't hear about diabetes in those countries because the life expectancy is much shorter and people simply die untreated. So sad.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
8 Sep 09
I think that when it is warmer more vegetables grow and as you say it costs more to eat a good balanced diet when you have a short growing season and have to import the fresh food. Also I think when people who live in the tropics and sub tropics eat the same food that we eat, they are more likely to get diabetes because they are used to eating more fruits and vegetables whereas here those who do not get diabetes and do not have the starvation gene in are used to having less nutritious food during the cold months and their bodies adapt.
Now I do not have an African or Native American in me, but I am part Welsh and some of the Welsh were descended from the ancient Romans who came from Italy and escaped over to Wales when the Anglo Saxons started taking over and Italy has a warm climate and a longer growing season so if I have that gene in me, I would need more fruits and vegetables then normal.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
8 Sep 09
As long as if I went somewhere like to a shower and had a piece of cake the day before, it does not screw everything off. And it is getting hard to find food that I can eat that is not more expensive then the regular food and I am not talking about junk food. I do not want to rely on medication because I think that diabetes is caused by a lack of something in our diet, something that would have been available if we lived in a sub tropical climate, but not in a climate with a short growing season.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
4 Sep 09
I was wondering that because well the last two times, there were a couple of baby showers and bridal showers in between and they really screwed up the results. It is like they are saying if you have diabetes, do not go anywhere where there is something sweet to eat because that will make your blood sugar go sky high and it will remain that way for a month or so no matter if you go back on your diabetic type diet.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
6 Sep 09
Do not want to miss the baby showers. It was just that the tests were at that inconvenient time.
@blackbriar (9076)
• United States
3 Sep 09
I believe what the doctor is wanting is to see how high your true blood sugar is without the meds. That's why they don't want you taking it. But, if your taking meds for some other illness like high blood pressure, stroke, or something else, then by all means, take them with just enough water to swallow them.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
3 Sep 09
That is the problem. If my blood sugar is normally high then the medications will just take it down temporarily and the effect would not be cumulative. So if I watched my diet every day for a whole month, it would not make a difference, would it?
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
7 Sep 09
I just have regular Type 2 diabetes. My father had it and that put me at high risk. I am trying to lose weight, and I already have, but I guess I have naturally high blood sugar. I think I am lacking in something, so I have been taking chromium and it helps. I want to try some more natural solutions, but they cost money.
@blackbriar (9076)
• United States
4 Sep 09
From experience when I had gestational diabedies, the diet alone didn't bring my blood sugar down. I had to have the meds. to actually bring it down.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Sep 09
suspenseful the reason they ask us not to take any pills atall is
\just because they want to know how we are doing between times when we take these meds, that gives them an overall picture of what our body is doing insulin wise. if we took those pills it would throw off all their calculations and give a false reading.trust the doctors as they know why they are doing this. I learned all this the first year Ibecame a dibetic and now Ihave been one for a long long time. You probalby mean sulfanurea but the common name is glyuride and the other is probably metformin, both are ones I also take and very good ones too with fewer side effects than some of the newer ones. if you do not belong to a diabetes seminar class check your local hospitals as they give you so much current and new inforamtion and too the members sort of support each other too.
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
5 Sep 09
Suspenseful hi there,
The test that you are taking is the A1C test. Usually it is ordered every three months. It is called glycosylated hemoglobin test and shows your blood sugar control over the past 3 to 4 months. It is also an indication if your meter is fairly accurate or should be replaced or adjusted. For instance if you were to self test your blood sugar daily and it would always show up within the acceptable range that is between 4 and 7 in the morning before breakfast and 5 and 10, 2 hours after supper you would show good control but if your A1C test was way over 7 something would be wrong.
Attention to American diabetics: we measure the daily self test differently in Canada than in the USA. You have to take the Canadian daily numbers and multiply them by 18. The A1C test is measured the same way to my knowledge.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
6 Sep 09
That is what I was worried about whether cheating on one day near to where I was to take the test would mess everything up. I think if it were, then that would encourage people to cheat - at least it would in my case - but if it is the average over the last three or four months then that is okay. Except I rather hate taking pills except for multi vitamins, and vitamin pills because in those cases it is not a take them or else.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
3 Sep 09
I was wondering whether if I decide to well eat a whole lot of candies one day (not that I will, but many cereals contain sugar and bread does raise blood sugar levels) and that would make my blood sugar go through the roof. And consequently if I decide to keep to a strict no sugar diet the day before the test, whether that would make any difference. I know that when there is a holiday or a special day even though I had been careful for most of the month, that that particular day made my blood sugar go off even if the test was a week or so later.
That leads to a problem where the doctor thinks I have been cheating every single day since my last appointment. So that is why I do not trust those tests.
@GardenGerty (160663)
• United States
5 Sep 09
No, the pills you take are cumulative in effect most likely. I know that your A1C test is the overall test for several months of blood sugar. You are fine. If this was a problem they would not order the test in this way. There are compensations made.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
8 Sep 09
Thanks. I wondered about that. I cannot see me keeping on a diet for months and not cheating even once. So I guess it is the average over those months. Then it is all right.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
4 Sep 09
Oh but if they want an accurate reading, would it not be better to take two, one with the medication and one without so they can better regulate the dosage? This way I am told to go without any medication or vitamins the night before until the test is one, so if my blood sugar with medication was 7.2 without it might be 8.1 but they are not sure that with medication it would be 6.2 or 7.2 so they do not know if I am getting too much or too little. Then does the medication just keep my blood sugar at an acceptable level or does it actually reduce my blood sugar over time?
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
4 Sep 09
That sort of makes sense. Except I wonder if there is a natural alternative. I know our provincial government pays for part of our prescriptions and what I take is not that expensive, but I would rather take a natural solution even if I have to pay for it out of my pocket. I do not know the long term effect of taking glyride. I heard it was not good for those who had diabetes after 65.
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@jezzmay (1845)
• United States
3 Sep 09
That is a good question, but I think if this
would happen those that are taking the test
would know it. I think they want to know
what the test will say before you take the
medicine to get a true reading of your blood
sugar level.
Have a great day.
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@comfort55 (1574)
• India
3 Sep 09
Hi, I am also suffering from the same disease, but here we do not eat anything in the morning till the blood has been taken for testing. Sometimes I skip medicine also, but after test I find it to be normal. But I have no clue what level of diabetes are you having,because if it's high, then you have to have take med without missing for a single day. Hope everything works fine for you.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
7 Sep 09
I can go without food for a few hours, and I can skip the meds for a day without any problem. I think I am on the borderline, but there is a family history and the build that goes with it. I know because when I did lose a lot of weight, I looked as if I were starving and yet I still had a large waist line and a large hip size for that matter.
@mariposaman (2959)
• Canada
3 Sep 09
I am only familiar with Glyburide and Metformin but I am sure there are others. Follow the doctor's directions for the lab as sometimes the tests need to be done when you are fasting, i.e., nothing by mouth for 12 hours or some other period.
You will not die if your blood sugar goes up, that is what gives you long term damage. You can die from too little blood sugar, in which case you take orange juice or sugar tablets to bring it up.
The multivitamins, and vitamin C probably have some sweeteners, probably sugar, in them so people will like them. Almost anything you eat will raise your blood sugar levels.
Proper control of your sugar levels is important. I think the test is probably a hemaglobin A1C which is a test to see if you are having any long term damage, usually as a result of poor blood sugar control. It is only for one day. Just go to bed, and do the test first thing, then go home and have breakfast. What I do with the fasting tests is to take a bottle of Boost or Ensure and have that as my breakfast right after I leave the lab, that way I am not hungry or thirsty for long and do not have to wait until I get home.
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
3 Sep 09
Heh, that bootle of Boost is an excellent idea. I also go to the lab first think in the morning but the lab is at the hospital and there is a Tim Horton's coffee shop and a cafeteria. For me those needles and taking away my blood is very traumatic so each time I survive it without screaming at the technician because she/he cannot find a vein and has to stab me more than once I reward myself and have a nice breakfast after the ordeal is over. Yes, you are right it is the A1C test and so far I have not been able to get one under 7.0 but I try and try my best.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
4 Sep 09
I take Glyburide, but what I heard is once you start taking a pill, soon you will be increasing the dosage or taking insulin, so it seems the effect diminishes and you need more. I do not know if that is true, but my father-in-law was a diabetic and he was on a strict diet and he just gave up, and my father was also diabetic and ho matter how much he did not eat, he could not lose weight. I do take victamin C and muliti vitamins but I take the kind that does not contain sugar or any fillers. They are more expensive but at least I do not have to worry.
@winorak5109 (33)
• United States
5 Sep 09
I am not a doctor, but I was married to a diabetic for over 26 years and helped him with his blood sugar daily. So, my experience adds a little weight to what I am about to suggest. That is, you need to find out if the blood sugar test is an A1C; if it is then it is the average of your continuous blood sugars for the past 3 months and it will really not be affected one way of the other with the pills that day. However, the test requirements have always said that it was to be a fasting glucose test and no medication should be taken. I remember that I was told because they still did a glucose measurement at the same time. Hopefully, though someone will have the expertise and bonafide knowledge to assist you!
@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
6 Sep 09
winorak5,
You are right on the mark. I am a diabetic and what you say is totally correct. I have my A1C test every three months and yes it is fasting glucose no food or medication before the test and when you see the doctor after he/she has the test results there will still be a glucose measurement that day.
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