Former Muslims threatened or killed for converting to another religion?
By ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
Sheboygan, Wisconsin
September 2, 2009 5:15pm CST
Ok, again, probably not all of Islam, as this sounds like the actions of the more radical extremists, but I would love to hear the responses of Muslims here at MyLot.
My religion is one that proselytes, we have over 60,000 full time missionaries around the world. I just found out that our missionaries aretaught not to proselytize Muslims in some countries. Apparently some former Muslims who joined our religion have been threatened with their lives, and some have been killed.
Do you know anything about this?
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5 responses
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
2 Sep 09
I believe it is called being an apostate. It is considered an act of ultimate betrayal in the more fundamental ends of islam. Our own president is actually considered an apostate by extreme groups (not that I give a rats asss what they think of our president. They consider him this because to them, being born of a muslum father automaticly makes one muslum, and since he chooses to attend a christian church, he is considered by these groups as an apostate. This is at least as I understand it.
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@bbpstudios (320)
• United States
3 Sep 09
you have a very distorted and media(as well as America) fueled, view on Islam. You should really check your facts. however, Muslims do consider him a betrayal to Islam. It has nothing to do with extremists. Each religion has its own form of betrayal. It's not fair that one is singled out.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
3 Sep 09
Most religions and denominations have some form of the term "apostate" they attribute to people who have "gone astray". There are individuals who take it upon themselves to "punish" apostates, but not very many have formal retribution for leaving.
In fact, that is where I draw the line between religion and cult. Cults have severe penalties for early withdrawal. :~D
@bbpstudios (320)
• United States
2 Sep 09
I am a follower of Islam. And I know nothing of it. In fact I'm tired of having people compare me as a terrorist. Islam and terror are TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. However, as your question has nothing to do with that, I have to tell you that you post is news to me. I've heard nothing of this friend.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
4 Sep 09
Thank you, but the Marines were acquitted of those rape charges. Please keep your slander to yourself.
@bbpstudios (320)
• United States
4 Sep 09
Every one wants to talk about how bad Muslim treat there people. When in fact every religion does the same. Including the Christians, as well as the jews. But no one wants to claim Christianity. Why does every one only claim what the others are doing? No Christians where singled out during the time of the crusades, or when hitler was around(every one tries to say that he was an atheist, however, he was a Christian), nor does any christian want to claim the doings of slavery, or of the actions of the KKK, or even of the terrible rapping of a female in Iraq(yeah, they where soldiers) lead by several Christian soldiers. So stop singling out the faults of one when your comings have committed to the same. And those are just small examples.
[Keep in mind that this post is meant for any one who reads, not just for a single person]
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
3 Sep 09
Apostasy in Islam is a major sin and traditionally warranted execution unless the person was mentally ill. By the 20th century, the execution of apostates was no longer practiced in most Muslim countries, but it does still happen in a few. It depends largely on what country you are in. But although there is no crime associated with it in some countries, anyone converting is often in danger from family members or other persons.
Recently in the news there was a story of a teen girl who ran away from home in Ohio because she converted from Islam and she feared being killed. She said her family threatened to kill her, they say they didn't. Although the jurisdiction she was found in, Florida, has no emancipation statute, the judge has stayed her return to her family.
I know it isn't supposed to be politically correct to mention honor killing, but it happens and cannot be denied. What is written in law and what happens in reality are often two different things. Two teen girls were killed by their father for just dressing in western fashions and wearing makeup, how hard is it to believe that a teen girl who denied Islam might fear a similar fate from strict muslim parents who feel her actions dishonor them?
@murderistic (2278)
• United States
4 Sep 09
Evangelizing is absolutely illegal in all Muslim countries that I am aware of, even more liberal ones (such as Morocco). If you are caught evangelizing in a Muslim country, you will most likely be arrested. As for converting to another religion, it is surely a shame to the entire family. But can you blame them? Just think if the roles were reversed, if you grew up in a strong Christian family and then decided to convert to Islam. It's really not so different. More radical Muslims may threaten to kill those who abandoned Islam and I'm sure some would actually go through with it, but that's really not the norm.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
4 Sep 09
None of the members of my family who have joined other churches have been threatened or killed.
Yes, there is some form of "shunning" in many religions. But shunning and killing are very different.
@murderistic (2278)
• United States
5 Sep 09
Ted there really is a HUGE difference between changing denominations and denying Christ as the Messiah. You can't compare the two.
@sushisarah (186)
• Indonesia
5 Sep 09
In my country, in Indonesia, converting can be a big problem. I am not a muslim, i am a christian. But i know some fact here. A prominent person who got into christianity will be threatened by their own friends. I don't know what is the meaning of 'friends' here.
People who stands for islamic religion here are too many. So in the community it can be a threat and awkward. The uncomfortable thing in the society is causing the bad things happens. People here, in my own outlook, are not ready for a renewal, though it's going to a better way, by choosing our God, Jesus Christ.
For the young generation, i had heard a youngster got this story from her parent based on their myth : if you get in to the christianity, you will die. So i asked ' why die? ' She answered me, 'It only happens. I don't know why.' So i think this society - without trying to embarrass my country - is making their own story to scare their descendants to not follow what their ancestors taught them. It's relating to the belief had rooted from generation to generation, so it's hard.
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
5 Sep 09
I've never understood the idea of killing a person because they chose a path that might lead to going to hell. If a Muslim converts to another religion, shouldn't the Muslims work to help the person back? Killing them only removes any chance that the person can return to "grace".