Pastor Says Jindal Should Pay Taxpayers Back For Church Trips
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
September 3, 2009 9:03pm CST
Here I thought Governor Bobby Jindal was a TRUE fiscal conservative and would NEVER waste taxpayers' money on something like helicopter jaunts to churches around the state. I guess I was wrong! Apparently Jindal spent over $45,000 in state funds during the five month period of March through July flying in a helicopter to different Louisiana churches. According to the article linked below:
"The Rev. Welton Gaddy, president of the liberal Interfaith Alliance, sent a letter to the governor this week, saying Jindal should reimburse the state for the trips."
The letter can be read here:
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2009/09/gov_bobby_jindal_should_reimbu.html
Any thoughts? Although the travel has been for different purposes it appears that Jindal is traveling a similar path to Mark Sanford in that he's traveling on the taxpayers' dime!
Annie
6 responses
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
4 Sep 09
Wow that's like 9 grand a month. I'm starting to wonder....does fiscal responsibility imply that people shouldn't be on welfare is all? How in the hell did he spend that much money traveling?
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@Carson11 (332)
• United States
4 Sep 09
I guess it's ok for Obama to spent 50k a week for rent at Martha's Vineyard.Fly in a guy from St Louis to make him a pizza.Go to NYC with his wife to go out to a show and dinner and cost the taxpayers millions while we are suffering because of his ignorance of the basic laws of economics. He spends 787 Billion on a stimulus plan when he could have taken less than 100 billion and helped millions of people who had cancer and other diseases pay their medical bills and keep their homes and retirement savings. This guy has no compassion for anyone but himself.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
4 Sep 09
All governors bill the state for travel expenses and this is travel in his own state. There are other governors like Jim Doyle D-WI who are spending thousands on limos in Canada and on trips to Ireland and billing the state.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/49943732.html
Do you think that governors should pay ALL their own travel expenses, or is that rule just for Republican governors?
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
4 Sep 09
No Taskr I believe that if a governor is traveling for pleasure then they should pay for their own travel. I don't really give a crap about which political party they are from.
@jonakyl (493)
• United States
4 Sep 09
First off, all you fellow conservatives who immediately point out all the money that Obama is spending should be ashamed of yourselves. You are now being just as hypocritical as the liberals that support Obama by stating that Bush did the same thing Obama is being accused of.
Now to the question at hand. Annie, I think it's a far reach to compare this to Sanford. Jindal was invited by the pastors or members of those churches to come and speak in his role as Governor. If he was going there because he wanted to attend the service there I would agree with you, but that just isn't the case if you read the article that you yourself posted.
Should he have used other means of transportation? Yes I think he should have. The article could give more information as to why he used a helicopter (maybe he was traveling to the far end of the state and a helicopter was more practical time wise.) The article also doesn't state if he visited any churches by car or if all his church visits were via helicopter.
Should he be criticized for spending all that money on a helicopter instead of driving? Until I get more information I say yes he should. Should he be compared to Sanford? Performing his role as governor and attending events at the request of his constituents is not personal travel, so no he shouldn't be compared to Sanford.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
4 Sep 09
Thank you for pointing out the hypocrisy of the right for complaining when the left answers a complaint with "Bush did it" and now doing the same thing. Also, you're right, I should clarify that my comparison of Jindal to Sanford was tongue-in-cheek and I know it's not fair to really lump Jindal in with someone who is a liar, a cheat and pretty much unstable to boot. I do think using a state helicopter and state funds to visit churches is either crossing the line or blurring it when it comes to the separation of church and state. but it's not anywhere near the same as what Sanford did.
Annie
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
4 Sep 09
Just wanted to interject with a note on "seperation of church and state". The constitution does not protect government from religion, but rather protects religion from government. If we are going to go as far as calling this a violation of that tennet, than we can also add things like a pastor saying a bendiction at an inauguration and other such things. This doesn't violate anything though.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
5 Sep 09
Billions (trillions before it's done) spent is a little different than $45,000.
I've never quite understood the leg amptutation argument for a stubbed toe.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
4 Sep 09
Can you tell me exactly what is inappropriate about his travel expenses? I could understand if he was traveling the nation going to different churches, but as you said, this was confined to his own state. As governor it's not simply his right, but his obligation to travel and see his constituents. If he hadn't made such trips you'd be writing threads about how he ignores his constituents and never appears in person.
It's not like he's billing taxpayers millions for date nights with his wife Annie.
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
4 Sep 09
We can pretty much count on politicians spending monies they shouldn't. From president on down they are all doing it. I don't see the point of accusing one of doing something the others are just as guilty of.
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
5 Sep 09
do any of them know what "fiscal responsibility means? I mean honestly? To be honest it should not be a "republican" or a "democratic" thing. Both sides should be fiscally responsible. Both sides should be careful with every tax payer dime they spend.
"Jindal has said he visits a church when he receives an invitation by the church leader or a member of the congregation. He said the visits help him meet Louisianians around the state, and he said he schedules meetings with local officials when he flies to church services."
So they were business trips as part of his job.He is being invited to come and meet some of the people of his state that he represents, talking to the people of his state, hearing what htey have to say, meeting with other elected officials in the state about state business. Nothing wrong with any of that. It is in his job discription. But instead of flying he should have drove, it would have been cheaper. He should be traveling as cheaply as possible. All of them should be.
Unforunately most politicans don't do that.
@coolcoder (2018)
• United States
4 Sep 09
Why is the pastor complaining? Look at all of the pleasure trips Barry Obama has taken on taxpayer money, and those cost WAY more the $45,000. It's a bit hypocritical for this man to complain about what Jindal's doing. Heaven knows, Louisiana's had a lot of corrupt politicians (does the name William Jefferson ring a bell?), but I don't believe Bobby Jindal is one of them.