Page view addict?
By scheng1
@scheng1 (24649)
Singapore
September 4, 2009 11:56pm CST
Someone writes an article about not becoming a page view addict. She writes about different ways (rather bad methods) of getting more pageviews. I agree that some methods she mentioned are very questionable.
Are you a page view addict?
I admit that I am. I will check the page view report almost every day, even to the point of seeing a pattern in the page views report. Page view means money. For international writers, page view is the only way we can make money in AC. I envy those who can make more than a thousand dollars from page view every month.
The recent ad loading problem is causing us to lose money from page views. That's why the forum is busy with writers airing their unhappiness.
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7 responses
@unusualsuspect (2602)
• United States
5 Sep 09
I imagine that everyone who is seriously trying to earn money with Associated Content checks their page views every day. That's not addiction; it's common sense. How else are you going to tell which of your articles is being read and whether your views are increasing, decreasing, or staying stable? I get upfronts but a few of my articles are for DO only, so I need to know how they're doing. Is it worth it to write on certain subjects even if I don't get an upfront for them? By keeping tabs on the page views, I get a better idea of what subjects to drop and which to keep writing about.
Page views are updated only once a day, so checking them more than that is a waste of time. I haven't seen the article you're talking about, so I don't know if that's what the author meant. But paying attention to how your page views are doing certainly isn't an addiction.
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@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
6 Sep 09
I am beginning to wonder if her "Page View Addict" article was just another ploy to get more page views? Perhaps people thought she would give them tips? Actually the article itself just complains about people who use "tricks" to increase their page views, like adding filler or extra space to stretch out an article to an extra page.
Or maybe she is an AC plant since there have been a lot of problems with AC not recording page views accurately (just kidding). Seriously, though, if people didn't pay attention to their page views, how would they know that there WAS a problem over at AC?
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
6 Sep 09
haha Greenhill, Art is having a very lively imagination!
It's funny to think of you as spy for AC! I think the system in AC counts words to divide a page, not really the number of lines.
Some writers tend to write super-long paragraph, so much so that one page is one paragraph. It's extremely difficult to read.
Usually a 400 words article will have two pages because of the referencing of the sources. Some writers spend a lot of time on research. They gather material from six or seven different sources for their article.
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@Greenhill (178)
• United States
6 Sep 09
Ploy - very intersting!!! I am the author of the article and I wrote it to bring up three valid points - over use of key words, filler and adding spaces/lines - all of these practices are used by several writers at AC and else where to stretch out articles. If an article is two pages times 1000 readers that is 1000 page views, but if you throw in an extra line and a few useless words, bingo it a two page articled and you get 2000 pageviews. Belive me I'm not making a fortune and please note that I have articles on most comments daily, sometimes three at the same time - so being on most commented was not my goal, I get there becasue of my fans!
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
5 Sep 09
I read that article. I have personally seen articles with overstuffed keywords too and sometimes I feel like I'm reading a robotic article or some sort, lol..didn't know that article is getting the rave on AC. Well2x well, the writer must be getting some great pvs there then, ha...
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
6 Sep 09
Hi Zed, some articles have keywords at the beginning and ending parts of the articles, since most writing sites use the first paragraph as the byline.
As long as the writers keep to the recommended keyword density of 3 to 7 percent, that will be quite ok, otherwise the search engines may treat the article as spam, and penalize it.
I think she is getting much more page views by ranting about page view addict. I guess she's among the first to coin "page view addict"
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@Greenhill (178)
• United States
6 Sep 09
since I wrote the article to 'vent' the fact that it took off is icing on the cake! And thanks to everyone here for helping to promote it!
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@Greenhill (178)
• United States
6 Sep 09
You have to be creative in the writing world, be the first to say/write something - and believe me, the page views I'm getting are not out of this world numbers. I have other articles that got the same number in a few hours.
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@KrauseHome (36447)
• United States
16 Sep 09
Personally I have not seen my PV go up much lately at all. Maybe because I am not that active in there, but I have never been paid there from that either. Just for some of my articles I wrote in there, but I do need to get busy one of these days when I have some time and submit some more.
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
16 Sep 09
Hi KrauseHome, I took about two months to reach the first $1.50. I think that's the hardest work I ever put in to make that miserable sum.
Once my articles build up, the page view payments get better. I think I will stay at the average of $10 per month for a very long time. Too lazy to add more articles at the moment. I prefer blogging.
@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
5 Sep 09
I read this article. I think the point she was trying to make was about how people ruin their articles just to get some extra page views. I don't see most people doing those things, except maybe adding filler to reach 400 words if the topic is shorter...I really don't see it as much on Associated Content as Helium, however.
You are right, however. Page views are the lifeblood of any author over on Associated Content. They don't even pay that much to US authors for their articles up front ($3-4, compared with $8-10 when I first started writing for them). In the long run, the page views are the heart and soul (or bread and butter...that is, $$$) of the operation!
I am not a page view addict, but I should be!
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
5 Sep 09
Hi Art, I think this adding filler thing is a cultural thing.
There is a famous science fiction writer in Hong Kong who is famous for using words to describe nothing, other than to create suspense.
When he wants to reveal a shocking incident, he will say something like "I do not believe my eyes. It's impossible to happen. My brain cannot accept this. Am I dreaming? This can't happen in real life" and so on for the next two pages. It's very irritating because all these are empty words.
This writer is a prolific writer, able to write more than ten thousand words a day, and without off day in writing. After reading more than twenty books from him, and all in the same pattern of using words to describe nothing, I feel very irritated. Yet his ideas are very fresh and unique.
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
5 Sep 09
I evidently missed the article the two of you are talking about. I agree with anythingart that upfronts really suck now. I finally got a couple of c4c for $7 that were targeted to a specific group.
Anyway, I'm not a pv addict yet, but I will probably turn into one. Actually, I calculate my percentage to see if I will ever make more upfront money. LOL I haven't reached the 400 pv per article average yet. Everyday my pv were going up though. I can keep hoping for better upfronts. LOL
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@Greenhill (178)
• United States
6 Sep 09
you are right on anything art! PS: This was not an upfront piece so I didn't make anything on it yet, pv's maybe a buck so far! I was making a point, several and I know you all know these practices and have seen them.
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@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
10 Nov 09
I have never really sat down to write seriously at page views.
I sure would like to be able to earn a thousand dollars a month from page views.
I wonder, how much work and effort is needed to reach that level of income.
And what topics would be a good working platform to create articles that will draw people to read to reach that kinda earnings!
@ahgong (10064)
• Singapore
12 Nov 09
10 news articles everyday?!?
Wow! I am struggling to even stick to a one article a day target!
Post the PSLE math questions? I think that would be more of a turn off to read than anything else. We may end up with even lesser readers than if we posted other stuff! 
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
12 Nov 09
Dont worry about traffic if you post crazy PSLE questions, you will get a lot of comments from students scolding you for giving them tough questions.
You will get equally many comments from parents who force their kids to come to your blog for the crazy PSLE questions.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
10 Nov 09
Hi, that person earning $1,500 to $2,000 from page views every month specialized in news. I think he is a journalist.
He can write about 10 news every day, covering topics from celebrities to politics. I doubt I have the energy to write like that. He is really treating writing as a serious job.
I think you can make the readers faint when you post all the stupid PSLE Maths questions.
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@oscar6 (1938)
• United States
17 Jun 11
I wouldnt say that I am an addict. I dont normally look for ways to increase my page views but recently I have. I have added some links to my profile page here on mylot to get more views. I have recently started a blog and when I get it more developed I am going to add some links to my blog that link directly to my articles.
@horsesrule (1957)
• United States
16 Sep 09
I check my page views almost every day too. I don't think I'm an addict exactly (that's what they all say, right? LOL) but I do want to know how those page views and that potential money is doing! Maybe I am just greedy? 
I do like getting that page view payment every month even though mine is still very small, only around $10.00. I would like to have a huge page view payment every month, that would be wonderful!
I do like getting that page view payment every month even though mine is still very small, only around $10.00. I would like to have a huge page view payment every month, that would be wonderful!@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
16 Sep 09
Hi Horserule, I check almost everyday too. That is a great improvement, I used to check a few times a day, and panic when there was no update over the weekends.
My page view payment is also very little, sometimes less than $10.
Anyway, that is a great improvement! The first payment of $1.50 took me about two months!
