Do you believe in god?

robertsixy, thanks for your reply! In all honesty and in all fairness the debate on the origin of life is still open. Science has proved nothing because there are probably as many scientists who believe in God as those that don’t. If Science had proven anything then no scientist would believe in God. But some of the best scientists are believers and other best scientits are not. Sir Isaac Newton wrote: “This most elegant system of suns, planets and comets could only arise from the purpose and sovereignty of an enlightened and mighty being.” I personally see no proof that God does not exist nor can I offer concrete proof that He exists. My own reasoning powers, my own observations, my own experience has convinced me that there is a God, that He cares deeply for each one of us and that at this time He will not furnish absolute proof of His existence. The evidence exists but He allows us to reach our own conclusions. However, in the near future, but I don't know the timing, He will reveal Himself in a manner that will leave no doubt as to His existence. And depending on which conclusion we reach, our eternal destiny wil be decided. This is what I believe and I make no apologies about it! I wish you well!

Please see my topic in the religion thread "What some scientits have said about the existence of God"

No one in especific but science had prooved somethings that religions said were truth and science prooved they were wrong, origin of life , origin of species, geocentrical theory and much more, makes me and esceptical. Cheers & of course thnx for your answer, believe it or not, it was too short but no one has asked that in the topic. lol jej :)

Hi Jenks92. I agree with you totally, its exactly how I feel. God is just a name given to a power that is much greater than science, religion or anything we can imagine. It cannot be explained by us mortals. Cheers.

Jeje yeah but the ancient miracles are by now explained by science, i think that there will be a time when science will explains it all, and when that moment arrives, the humans will not need anymore religions!. Cheers and thnx for answering. :)

Im glad to see lots of good answers hehe. You´re right when we are convinced in something we can denny it with tons of facts and information. Cheers and thnx a lot for answering. :)

JEje thnx you are the first that cheered me.And you´re right, science is not always right, and i dont know maybe i just dont want to call that misterious power God because maybe all religions have turned me an Anti-God.But anyway, nice answer. Cheers :)

Nice answer buddy, i just want to say that ok big bang theory its not prooved at all, but einstein´s and darwin´s are prooved hehe, and yeah as you say science is not 100% sure, but the fact is that when science is 100% sure of something, that theory becomes into a universal fact, it´s 100% true even if you are on america, on asia, on earth or in jupiter. Thats why i believe in science, cause there are tons of religions out there, and any religion is universal, jeje but yeah it´s okay to believe, thank you for answering. :) Cheers from Mexico

Science like ive said is the only way of truth in the universe, evereything that surrounds us is there because of science, and science is there because of weak animals that can think.And yeah science have proof that god doesnt exist, it have prooved it since darwin, galileo, sagan and many others beat celestial thoughts.Read some books and tell me if science have not proof by now that god doesn´t exists.

you're right there killa,

actually they're more like things that suggest God doesn't exist, but nothing conclusive has been proven. Like there have been a lot of cases in history where something the suggested this to be, but later proof was found explaining that and ending the argument the other way. But yes it does look kinda bad for the people who believe in God.

Ok, first of all thnx 4 answering, its really important for me. But i have to say that actually the abilities that we have and our ability to think was caused because millions of years ago our ancestors were very weak, they didnt have big teeth and other things that other species had, so to remain alive, we found the way to survive, and that way was by using instruments, the instruments are the clue of our evolution, without instruments by now we would be extinct. And i suggest you to read "The origin of life" from Oparin-Haldane, and "The origin of species" by Charles Darwin, you will find alot of answers. And by the way, there was life on the planet before we were here. Cheers

Where did you get the idea that our brains are different? If it was from scientific theory, that's no proof. Man has increased in knowledge because of necessity and in some cases out of wanting to make life easier or more fun. As far as our increase in size, that's because of better nutrition. Also, man has the ability to reason, to imagine, and the ability to create using our reason and imagination. What the beast create is done instinctively, not from reason or imagination. So, why do humans have these abilities that set us apart from the beast? As far as I'm concerned, it's a gift from God.

Ok first of all, i apologize because in my question i didnt explained myself very well, i was trying to said that science has dennied lots of religions, and evolution is 100% sure, our brains are different than the ones we had 2000 years ago, also we are taller than we were 1000 years ago, human kind needed to evolve faster and greater than other species, because we were the weakest specie on earth and we had to find other ways to hunt, and in that way survive, we developed the ability to use instruments, because we had no claws and big teeth. Stronger species by the other side, dont need to evolve alot, because they can survive in the way they are, crocodiles for example have not evolved over the last millions of years because they dont need to. For example if the weather changes drastically because of the global waarming, all the species on earth will be forced to evolve quickly and of course lots of species would die, even humans, but in some years we would notice the evolution on the species. Science have not dennied or aprooved the existance of god, i would say it dennies it more than it aprooves it, because science is realistic and objective. Cheers and thnx for answering.

Call it what you want, but is not a theory, we are evolving and not for good nutrition, also we are taller, we evolve because of "seleccion natural" our ancestors, aproximadetly 1,800,000 years ago evolve and need to start thinking because they were to weak, in fact we still are a really weak specie, the point is that they needed to find the way to hunt and not being killed, because they didnt have big teeths and claws to kill, so they started to use instruments, and then, thousands of years after, they needed to start thinking in order to make better instruments. And then thousands of years after the first civilizations started to grow up, and governments and religions were created, then thusands of years later cristianism was created and then just 2000 years later we are talking each other from different countries, now you see?,evolution is a llllooooooooonnnnnnngggggg proccess. Look it like this, the time humans have been on earth can be compared with one second in a 24 hours clock called Earth. Im not dennying the existance of god, but nowadays religion doesnt give answers or knowledge, they used to do that, but now science do that and religions do spiritual things, and its not bad, science cant promove spiritual things, and religion cant promove science because they never do research, you see? they need to complement each other, i apologize for askin my question really bad, but you cant denny the truth of science, just as i cant denny the fact that science heals and helps millions of people from all around the world. :)

"There is a theory that is the most acceptable for me that says that in the beginning the universe was conformed by just 1 proton and 1 electron and then a bad reaction between them ocassioned to go in different directions between time and space..." Cosmology is all very interesting, but it does not prove the nonexistence of God. It proves God exist. Protons and electrons are parts of the atom along with neutrons. From where did that atom come and what caused it to explode? Have you ever known an atomic blast to cause anything other than destruction when not in controlled surroundings? And yet you want me to believe that one proton and one electron exploded into the order I see around me. As I said before, someone has to be eternal and to add to that, just as man has to be in control when exploding atoms, God was in control when your proton and electron exploded. Otherwise, there is no order.

Yeah wowww you made a really important point, that i cant denny, KARMA, it really surprises me! haha im serious, its the only thing in the universe that makes me doubt just for a second in science...But anyway, you have done something that anyone didnt answered me before in this topic! hehe you made me doubt in science jeje! Cheers for that man! :)

I care if you believe. I care for you soul when you die. But, if you feel like this, and right now I am in no mood to fool with an atheist, and you are not willing to take the blessings the good Lord has bestowed upon each and every individuala as proof of HIS exist then I'll continue to pray for you. God bless.

Then i just have to say thank you xd. :)

Why you try to make me believe? im not trying to make you dont believe in god, i just want you to answer me the reason why you believe. That´s all, and if the grass growing and the sun coming up are your reasons , then thnx for answering my buddy, i apreciate that. Im not trying to insult anybody, but please stop trying to make me believe, cause i will never believe, the only thing that i cant see and believe in is called anti-matter, all spiritual things for me are lies. That´s my point of view, dont try to change it. Peace, :)

Yes! I would rather go through life believing there is a God and find out I was wrong, than go through life believing there ISN'T a God and find out I was wrong. However, there are so many unanswerable miracles that prove there IS a God.

If Nothing can exist without a creator, then who created God O_o something to ponder. Did he create him self? if he did, what if life and the universe created it self? hmmm

Im totally disagree!. The creation is a really human tought, in fact there are no proofs of creation in any part of the universe, the universe is pure matter and energy, nothing and nobody can create matter, it just exists. Creation is a human thought that cant be proove with anything.

Nop, there is something that is called NECROSIS, read about it, it happens when the cells of our body just die and theres nothing that pills can do about it. Read about necrosis & apoptosis, it are 100% prooved, you will understand what im talking about. Cheers

I just have to say that as youve said, they are friends and nofriends, in my point of view they complement each other,but, that doesnt means that studying science makes you turn back into god, its totally opposite, the more you do research in science , the more you leave god,and the same thing happens with religion, the more you believe on it, the more you denny science, in my point of view god and science love each other, but they hate each other much more.Ask a scientist if he believes in god, you will understand my point. Thanks a lot for answering my friend, and have a nice day... or evening xd :)

Well, i have to say that believing in god helps millions of people all around the world,just by the fact that they need something that gives them confidance, the confidance that they dont have in theirselves, call it god or anything, it would be the same if we believe in a pencil or in a tv, it will give us the same confidence, but that doent means its real, and yeah, the world is amazing, and the universe well.. i dont have words to describe it, but everyone tells us since we are kids that god created us or things like afterlife, but they never told us that we came from the stars or that there is no reason to our existance , 70% of the humans think that there is a reason to everything, but that´s a really human thought not an universal one, they feel like the best especie ever, and we are not we are a really young specie and maybe it will take thousands of years to denny those believings, but believe me that time will come. Why i told you this? because we are talking about cristianism, and that religion is responsable of tellling us thing like that, they also teached the humanity one of the stupidest mistakes ever..."mercy","compassion", and in that way they hit science with a bowling ball, why? mercy means that we need to have compassion with the weaker ones, and that dennys evolution, one of the thousands of science laws 100% prooved, mercy dennies natural selection, but they are forgiving that natural selection is what made us humans....and cristianism has been teaching that mistake since thoousands of years,saying us that we have to help the weaker ones to be in paradise, and if that thought preserves more years, im sorry but human kind will be extinct in some years, when the weather of planet earth change drastically just as earth have been doing since millions of years, call it ice age or global warming but weather will change soon. So my point is that its ok to believe in anything, but if we talk about crisitanism, we cant talk about a friendship between jesus and science. I hope i explained myself well because as you sure noticed before, i dont speak english really well, thats why i keep using the same words over and over hahah lol. Well greetings from Mexico my friend. :)

no my friend.. i think we are pointing about different areas here.. i also believe in what you have said but i am talking about in a christian point of view, the more you study science and see the limiting power of it the more you get closer that God really do exist... anyway, i'm not creating any arguments here... by the way i am a science teacher the same time a pastors daughter that's why i speak by experience...

killall.....? ....interesting name you've picked for yourself. ....wonder what God would think of that one? cdrxo

I believe in God because He gives us hope that no matter how bad our life here on earth might be, there is a better life in the hereafter. We are told in the bible that heaven will be even better than anything here on earth.

It hasnt denied the existance of god, but it has dennied religions. Dont want to insult but i asked why you believe in god, i m not trying to confront or discuss with anyone or any religion Cheers and i hope you can answer my question.

I apologize my friend, sometimes i cant explain myself really well because i dont speak english really well. But of course nothing can´t denny at 100% the existance of god, but i don´t believe in god because, there are millions of people suffering in other parts of the world, we have a good life so we can be grateful to god, but what about the other people, dying and crying right now. That´s one of the biggest reasons in wich i dont believe in god, also because the evolution, and that science have prooved that creasionism is false.Im not saying that is bad to believe in god and of course i dont want to confront anyone here, but i think that if god exists he is really unfair with the world, what makes us special? why there were animals and before we were here? why? why? why?religion its really contradictory, that makes me doubt about the existance of god. Cheers and thank you for answering. :)

God, don't like that but man does it. God, never broke his words and say that man should suffer form those things because of there sins. until man doing sins and all unacceptable in the eyes of God. Sufferings is always until the day of judgment,my friend. Animal is not first existed than man. Human is the first creation of God. As I said to you, my friend. See the sky, the moon, the sun, the stars and all in the Universe and deduce that God, is existed. Just broaden your mind, my friend. Who created those things. Do you believe they are created by those scientist who only explore and discover those planets in the universe. Even big bang is not prove by those scientist or about the black hole because God, hide it in their minds. Religions in not contradictions my friend. But people who teach it. If you read the Bible, there is no contradiction in it. They don't know what religions means. Even those speaking in greeks where that words is coming from will not arrive in the true meaning. Religion is from the words "religare", of greek words. Meaning is to bind again with God. And other terms "To bring back again with God" or to have faith with God. So there is no contradiction with that right? Those people in the sect is contradicting in belief not the Words religion. If you don't have religion meaning you are not belongs to God, and you are not believe in God. Where this is the reason why God, send those plague and other sufferings on earth. Now, think about it, my friend. You are not believe in God. Therefore your the reason why people suffering more worst than you expected. Don't blame God, with that blame yourself because you don't believe in God. I ask you. Who made everything in the universe? If you believe scientist. Ask the scientist to made earth that no violence and no hunger that have a perfect life?

Hello First of all, I'm not confused.. you're confused. You said you were confused. A believer's world is not perfect, however the Word of God tells us that we are made perfect through Jesus Christ who gave his life for our sins. I didn't take your question as being confrontational at all. I can understand that you are confused about the world we live in. As I stated before, God gave man a free will to make his own decision about life. Whether he would serve God or the Devil. That is the choice that is given to us. God is not a dictator forcing what he created to do as he says like slaves. God loves us so much that he allows us to decide what we want to do. God loves you and is concern about your life and the way you live your life. Just like a parent is concerned about their children. I enjoyed your post and I hope you have more interesting topics to discuss.

Ok, i could see that youre really confussed about my question, let me explain. .The reason why i created this topic is not to confront any body or any religion thoughts, i just wanted to know the reasons that make people believe in god. .I didnt said that science created the universe, no one can, also i didnt said that men or government created the universe,Ive said that men created religions,that´s diferent, in fact, men cant create nothing, because there´s no way to create matter in the universe, everything that you see is the same, matter never is created and never disappears, it only transforms, just as energy. .And ok of course i will keep reading till the end of my life, and ive read bible, and it was the only book that have not tell me anything. .Finally.Its ok for you to believe, i admire believers, i want to analize them, analyze their minds, what makes them believers, i dont want to confront them, but i admire them because believers life isnt full of confussions and new knowledge, because believers world is perfect, me by the other way im always confussed about everything, and i want to keep researching to gain more knowledge just to try to be as relaxed as believers are with their perfect world. I hope you understood by now the reasons of this topic. Thanx for answering and Cheers my friend.

Yes, God is of the supernatural realm. Scientists can't really go there.

Yeah, i apologize! because hehe ujj my question was not wrote really good, jeje of course science hve not prooved that god doesnt exists. And of course science cant deal with spiritual world, cause science is based in prooved facts, there are no prooves of spiritual life. but anyway its good for you to believe :) Cheers and thnx for answering.

don't use HIS name in vain.. that's one of HIS commandments.!! and better to capitalize it always as a respect to HIM..

I think that's the whole thing about becoming a Christian and believing in God, it's a faith thing. It's not something that can be proven or disproven, you just know. So it's a bit of a conundrum really. Science can't prove that God exists but it can't prove that he doesn't either. I believe in God because I have faith that he exists. You can't refute that in any way. So yeah, I suppose you could call it "irrational" but I guess that's what makes it 'faith'.

Well, first of all, the word creation, was created by men, and it shouldnt exist, because theres is no way to create matter, its impossible!. And it´s ok that you believe on him and im glad to know that it helps you in your life. Just think about it, species evolve, they are just leptons, with cells that can react with some elements, they are not created by anyone, and that is 100% prooved by Oparin & Haldane since 1929! read some books man. Thanks 4 answering man but i cant be a cristian without any prooves.