Shocked. Out on loan.
By katerina
@thea09 (18305)
Greece
September 7, 2009 2:02pm CST
Whilst reading about our great club Panaithinaikos I learnt the horrid fact that some of our players can be loaned out to other clubs, no doubt coerced against their wills. So a young Greek man is sent away from his beloved country to a place which perhaps has no Greek food, no olive oil, no icons and no MAMA.
Would you consider loaning yourself out in any capacity, perhaps for work, or loan out a thing of value which you own, or do you too find this practice barbaric?
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6 responses
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
7 Sep 09
I think it sounds horrible & very unfair. Surely they aew aware that this can happen, aren't they? Yassou.aunty
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
7 Sep 09
They trade players off in the major leagues but not at the college or high school level.
@akuler (3531)
• Malaysia
7 Sep 09
Hi Aunty,
All party involve must agree before any loan can be proceeded. They have to sign an agreement about this. Most of the transfer are between big club and a small club.
The big club want their player to play more games so they can get some experience. But most of the player especially the young player hardly break to the main squad.
The small club want to get some player but didn't want to buy because of the funds restriction. They have to loan it from some where. The advantage of loan players are they don't have to pay for the players and they only pay a certain amount of the players salary. Usually the ratio is 60:40. But for some club, the ratio is different.
Players will have benefit too. They can play more and get some experiences. Once they have more experiences, they can go back to their original club and have a chance to get to the main squad.
Some players might against this loan but since they can not play at the original club, they accepted it.
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@sunny68 (1327)
• India
7 Sep 09
it is a materialistic world and the highest bidder gets the best. but then it also gives new talents a chance. players may change but the team remains the same.
now that this has happened....you really cannot blame me for that....i did hint you to include free visa and free lunches.....someone must have taken cue... hmmmm..... its much murkier than i thought. well...i am open for offers....start your bids...LOL
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
7 Sep 09
hi sunny, whilst the world of football may be a materialistic world the world of the great leaderboard of this interest is not and the offer of bribes is most definitely not on the table I'm afraid. However there is still room for you to rise futher in the ranks of this beloved best interest section of ours even though you already hold the exalted position of number 10. But when 1000's join in their 100's you will then come to really appreciate this greatly exalted postion.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
7 Sep 09
I clearly told you last time you attempted to coerce a bribe from me that your behaviour was a total disgrace. I may have to impose on our reveered spokesman to make you see the error of your ways, no, might not work, he's spokseman on football not bribe policy.
@stvasile (7306)
• Romania
7 Sep 09
Loaning players is usually a mutual beneficial action for both of the clubs involved, as well as for the player.
A player is loaned from a better team to a weaker one when the better team has even better players and can't really use that player. But because they think that player can become better and be useful in the future, they don't sell him to another team. They rather let him on a loan to a weaker team, where the player can actually play and develop his skills, also helping the weaker team. The weak club also gets to play his wages, so the big club doesn't have to pay a player they don't use. It's not so bad for the young player either, as he gets more chances to play and improve his skills, thus gaining a place on the big club's firs team.
A player can also be loaned from a weaker team to a bigger club, when the big club is interested in buying the player, but is not yet convinced on how good the player is. This is why they get him on a loan and let him play some matches to see how he its in. If he fits in just fine - they transfer him and pay him good money.
So the young player is taken from the bosom of his mother and the landscapes of his mother country, but that usually serves him well, if he is valuable, of course. If the player proves his skills he will get to play for the better team and earn some good money.
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@stvasile (7306)
• Romania
8 Sep 09
Many players receive some bonuses when they move to another country (even as a loan) to help them set up a home (rent a house, buy a car, stuff like that) and many bring their family (usually just the wife). It does depend on the club, but the wages are usually big enough to allow football players buy whatever they need (they certainly get many times the wages of doctors or teachers)
@jellymonty (2352)
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7 Sep 09
unfortunately thea this has been going on for ages and its the way of business these days.. Loaning is basically a fancy word for "you are not very useful to us, or you could makes us more money if we sold you than if you stayed here"
Personally I don't have a problem with loaning.. just as long as I benefit from the deal
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
7 Sep 09
Hi jellymonty, well I could understand someone loaning a thing out, but a person. Just think how this poor young Greek man must feel sent away to be exploited and shamelessly hustled by young hussies who have not had Greek Mamas to teach them the perils of the world. Instead of kneeling to his beloved icons every evening after eating Mama's cooking he's probably having to exist on foreign muck for food which these trollops are probably telling him is home cooking.
@akuler (3531)
• Malaysia
7 Sep 09
Hi kyria thea,
Before they loan out players, agreement must be sign. And the player involve must sign it too. So, there is no way he didn't agree with that legally. But sometimes they didn't want it but they have to. The reason behind the loan usually because the club want to give an exposure this player especially the younger one. They want him to play more games where they hardly get it at their club. This would get them some experience and good for them too.
I would do the same whenever it need too. At least we can learn something at the new place. New environment, new friends and new pretty girls around.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
7 Sep 09
Hi Kyrios Akuler, thank you for providing the much needed football details, I did plenty of research here on this topic and had a hard time to actually find a player from Panaithinaikos on loan outside this country, only within.
So for yourself you would not need any coercian to be perusaded to loan yourself out as you would gain so much new knowledge and delight by the new things you might encounter. A fine and brave approach I would say.
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@akuler (3531)
• Malaysia
7 Sep 09
I think that is because I have Bugis blood on my body. Bugis always like to travel and most of them are traders during the old days. I am also not in my hometown now. I have travel a lot since my school days. 2 years here, 4 years there then 2 years in another town, 1 years move again and I have been here for the last 2 years. I will back to my hometown next month and I don't know how long I would be there.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
7 Sep 09
Hi reyaz, I am inclined to totally agree with your contribution here, when I first read of this terrible thing I indeed thought of barbarism, meat and piece of. Maybe they threaten to take away the free tickets of his family members if he does not agree. And this poor homesick young man crying into his pillow every night with his only solace being a photograph of his beloved Mama.