Do you know yourself ??

cannibal baba's blessing has been received with due reverence. The entire episode now has taken a philosophic look. But it is/was worth discussing. Thank you for te clarification.

Hi cannibal baba, No yawning, I rather got enlightened but do not know how much. Just one clarification baba - that I say Know myself - my merits and demerits and my liking and disliking, that what I am pleased with and what not, that I am an individual different from others, that I know this subject or that better than others - are not these knowing oneself. This is too equally true that I can not attain the enlightenment to know myself and matters around me. Then what is this I and me and mine?

Cannibal Baba blesses Rajib. (Baba is waiting for Dakshina) According to the theoretician Cannibal Baba, Rajib seems to be on the right track. Baba believes in reincarnation and it seems certain that Rajib, with every new life is inching towards enlightenment. At this moment you feel all is wrt you, i.e. I, me, myself. While approaching towards enlightenment, Rajib shall surely understand that the only reality is the Absolute Consciousness or Brahman. Everything originates from the single source. Everything else is a manifestation of it, and ironically those manifestations is illusive too! This philosophy is called Advaita or Monism. Baba only suggests Rajib to live life to the fullest and to try level best to not leave back any unfulfilled desires. (Baba has borrowed everything from others' transcendental experiences. Baba does not owe any responsibility for any damage caused thereof!)

Hi there, I can see you are in a maze and thus confused. Do not bother. Just be content that you are who you are and you know your desires, interest and other things as human being. I too am looking for such person who could lead me through.

Hi, Thee is logic what cannibal baba has said and now there is the theory of determinism which says all things are predestined and set to move in a particular motion in a specific moment. Your conclusion is tat we do not know ourselves completely. Thanks for sharing.

Hi hilar, Yes friend i can understand your problem. Look I am too not an expert and theefore this has been let out so that we receive views from different corner.

Hi yadu, Yes only that could get us to the real meaning of knowing ourselves. Thanks for sharing.

Hi there, I feel every one would claim to have known him/herself well. To be frank I have not yet known myself fully. I have not seen my faults fully as I too have some demerits. What I feel is that to know oneself fully he/she needs to go for introspection. i am trying to make a list as to where and how and why some flaws are there. And I am confident that i would be able to rectify them. And I would be too glad if my friends point them out.

Hi rio, This is really appreciable that one knows his/herself. But the real fact is the knowledge about you that you think you have is only the surface knowledge. f you go into the deeper ;level you will start doubting your own existence asking like 'who I am'. Thanks for sharing.

Many Zen masters have said that we already know our Self but there are just barriers (ego-mind) that prevent us from seeing our true Self. And it is as easy as just looking. So near, yet so far. So simple, yet so complicated. If we try and desire it strongly, apparently we are missing the point. Enlightenment is open to every sentient being and most of us who practice the discipline of meditation can get glimpses now and again, and then, once the mind is ripe, we will experience enlightenment and our true Self. It could happen in an instance or an eternity. We don't get to choose that one because at the moment, we choose from the rational mind or ego... An interesting discussion. Just by contemplating these questions, we grow to know more of our Self. - Derek

"Unless you can know yourself as empty and meaningless, then you cannot know yourself.". This speaks a volume on knowing ourselves. A total void one has to be to be abl3 to receive the knowledge as to how one is enabled to know oneself. This is surely a complicated process. You mean at certain moment we can know ourselves but not all the time. Is it something that what we call knowing ourselves is the surface knowledge of the body and fleeting mind and it li8mits there only and only enlightened ones can go deeper into the self?

So you want to say that the ego thing is a barrier in knowing ourselves? Accepted that the enlightenment is the key to get mirrored but why there is hide and seek of this? Or is it an epiphany?

Hi Kitty, I'll do my best here and give you my opinion at least. We have all known or heard of people who have done things that we could never imagine ourselves doing. We feel certain that we would never have done that. It might be stealing money from an employer or robbing a store or any of a dozen or so such things. My point is that we can never know what we would do if we were in that persons shoes as we have no idea of of what was happening in his/her life. We may know ourselves in our present context but we might be shocked to find out how we would react if we were placed in a completely different environment. Hope this has helped. Blessings.

@pose That is what I wanted to convey thorough the post. Not all but most people would be at their wits end if suddenly there is a turn round of a particular situation. I myself sometime fail to understand myself. Wonder as to why I am doing this and not that. What most people feel is an illusion only that they know themselves. Knowing oneself fully involves a lot of process. When I would say I know myself fully I must be able to see things into their heart and should be able to dispose and pick things when and as necessary.

Hello Pose123 I was waiting for a response from our friend, since you seem to agree, can you enlighten me, give me some idea of what could possibly happen that can make a person say I don't know who I am? We are all aware that anything can happen, but we should know how much we can take of any given situation, you have different people in this world, some strong,some weak,some selfish,some kind,some mean and nasty, some with mental disabilities in that case I can understand, I just can't see how any one would think a person does not know ones self, ofcourse there is always room for improvement because life is a learning experience, you can learn from your own experiences as well as others, does not mean you don't know yourself just means you are open to learn new things which only enhances you, that does not say you don't know who you are, If a person says I am perfect and don't feel the need to change anything about myself then yes something is wrong, no one is perfect and there is always room for improvement, I welcome it, but it will only improve something I already know can use a bit of adjusting, if I was not aware of the person I am, I would not know that there was room for improvement. please enlighten me, I am really curious to hear the response, anyones response, if you say something that makes me think ah ha I will admit it, but please give me something lol

Hi there, Though not fully in the metaphysical terms knowing oneself is beyond the reach still in the gross way we can know ourselves through experience and experience, that is practical experience, comes later in life. This is why I suppose our knowledge about ourselves remain incomplete.

Hi there, Very well judged response. That we feel know is like our fleeting mind. As it is there and next moment it is not here. So where is the fact that we have known ourselves? This what I feel is the skin level knowledge about ourselves that we say 'I know myself.' Thanks for the response.

I know. It changed from day to day. The basic things remain the same to a great degree but recently some of them have even been changing.

Hi celtic, Yes there lies the problem when knowing ourselves drops at out cap. We feel we know but the next moment things get different and the me I knew is quite different. Therefore i say that what we think we we know is only the skin level knowing.

Hi Bing, do not know about others but I have not yet succeeded in exploring myself.

Hi friend kitty, This is fine argument and accept them without getting prejudiced. Yes there are people who know their merits and demerits, strength and weakness. But still some time as we create the center of everything in us we tend to get detracted and in such case we need update. This comes in the form of discussion like this and directly from friends and foes as it were.

Hello my friend This is called learning there is always room for growth, this does not mean you don't know who you are, just means you are willing to learn more and enhance the person that you are, there are some people who may be stuck and not willing to learn this too does not say they don't know who they are just says they have no desire to grow and become better as a person. Still trying to understand this one my friend

Hi there, That is the true fact. We now ourselves 'pretty' well but knowing every movement and the ripple in the mind is not easy or rather impossible. What we feel we know is the skin. Flesh and deeper flesh remain still unexplored. Thanks for sharing.

Hi dawn, Yes I agree to your view that if knowing comes you know yourself better than any one else. This thus equates to the discussion topic that we only know seemingly for a particular time and as we go one learning new things as we grow older we are not complete in knowing ourselves. Thanks for sharing.

Hi Paula, There is seemingly alike theory here too. The quest to explore oneself does not end as long as we are there in this mortal world. Age is a great teacher if at all we know the learning process. Even if we do not know it enters into us and leaves mark that we are yet to be fully what we are. great thought. Thanks for sharing.

Wel shibhom, I appreciate your confidence that you know yourself better. And that you have mentioned you get sometime over confident and invite trouble is the proof that what you know about yourself is the exterior of the deeper you which has not yet been explored.

Hi Polav, Yes, to know even partially we need to go for introspection and it would help partially.

Hi jscaz, That is the problem. the constant changing thoughts are difficult to decipher all the time and what we claim to have known is basically our mortal physic. Thanks for the response.