We have this young kid at 17, a problem child...
By mobhomeir
@mobhomeir (7558)
Philippines
September 12, 2009 11:42pm CST
We have this young kid at 17 who is a problem of mine. He is my wife's nephew and being dropped already at his school at their province he live here with us. This kid frustrating me so much that every time I would complain about his attitude my wife interferes and always the cause of our quarrel. God knows how I really hate this boy.
Here are his attitude:
Very lazy, he would change his clothes not until it will come so dirty because as what he said he hates clothes washing. He don't even know how to sweep the floor if not been told. No common sense and initiative. Very picky on food, don't know how to eat vegetable and hates fish. His routine is sleep, eat, sleep, watch dvd that's all.
He don't know what to do that we could think worth of his staying with us. I did not blamed him for his attitude. The only people who would be blamed are his parents by not teaching their child to work to do without being told, use his initiative because the father also same as him. The other one to be blame is his grandma. He is his grandma's favorite of all her grandsons as well as his father...until now still his father is so very dependent with his grandma who is migrating at US.
If you have this kind of kid in your house what would be your best idea to solve it..
Honestly, I feel like strangling him and hang upside down in a tree..I am sorry..I could not just hold on my anger....let's share what yours..
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16 responses
@StormWindBG (143)
• Bulgaria
13 Sep 09
I think the most important things to solve this problem are stubborness and understanding... maybe u should just take some time to sit down with him and bug him , a LOT ... like... while hes watching dvd , you butt in and start trying to socialize with him , or cooking things with less vegiese and fish , little enough for him to barely notice or something like that... try to understand him and make him see you wont give up or something... pretty much prove yourself this way. And maybe you shoud try just helping him and not giving up. I know it could be annoying , but if he knew he could rely on you , he would behave better i think.
(I dont know if those would help , but i hope i was at least a bit helpful)
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@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
Hi stormWind, we've been doing that a lot of times. He would just keep on blinking his eyes, no words from him you could hear. And if you ask if he understood he keeps on saying yes..but nothing happened no progress..I would just pray I could hold always my temper...thanks for responding..
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@StormWindBG (143)
• Bulgaria
15 Sep 09
That kind sounds like my cosine xD And well i dont know what you could do then, but i hope you find the answer soon :) good luck
@zhuhuifen46 (3483)
• China
13 Sep 09
Hi,mobhomeir, I fully understand your feelings, and difficulties to take care of the family. Very often, we use the term of problem kid, actually as I recently learned, there should not be problem kids, but they have been brought to that status by problem family or problem environment. What about try to do something together with him, to get him trust and interest. Stop complain to his father, but maintain the home a pleasant and peaceful place to live. In positive environment, might your kid become more peaceful and cooperative. God bless you.
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@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
Thanks for that idea zhuhuifen. I guess we already done that and yet no progressed at all. What I suspected with this boy is he's having a psychological problem. He needs a psycho therapist...thanks for your concern ...I appreciate it...
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@bloodcakelover (420)
• Malaysia
13 Sep 09
I understand your situation and i know it is very hard to handle young teenager with bad attitude.The best thing for you to do is get his attention by being strict and make him follow your rules.If your wife insist then you should talk to your wife first of the reason you want to do that.You cant just please him to live with you and do nothing but being a parasite in the house.And it is good if you can change someone to be a better person.17 is a very young age,it is not too late to change him and makes him a better person it just need you to be patient.
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@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
You know what my friend? We've done that already for several times but nothing's good, no progress at all. What I concluded with this kid is that, he's mentally disturb and he needs a psycho therapist...thank for responding..
@shortstop (18)
• United States
1 Dec 09
i'm just curious if the situation is any better? and, i have to disagree with the problem child being the parents' fault. yes, there are some parents you feel like slapping, because they don't teach their children anything and they never require anything of their children. in that situation, i agree, it is the parent's fault entirely.
on the other hand, i have known quite a few parents that my heart just bled for because they did "everything right" and they had one or two children who just turned out "bad." [people make their own choices no matter what they are taught!]
and, now i am one of those parents.......some days i just don't know what to do, but keep going on...........we've got a child right now that we don't want back in our house. out of our 6 children, she is just bad to the bone. the small children still at home are afraid of her. she's done some crazy things and no one likes her. we managed to get her into job corps and she came home after 2 weeks---we didn't know who she was!!!!!!!! she started smoking [she's 16 and not supposed to do that at job corps, but manages to do it anyway] her manners were so bad, you couldn't believe she'd been taught any! she was dressed in men's clothes;was bragging about wearing a "wife beater"; had the mannerisms,walk, etc.like a boy; told us she wanted to be a boy....embarrassed us every time we went in public---she was like an animal.......running the streets at night; having relations with everything 2 minutes after she met them...boy,girl,street people.......she was definately raised better!! the whole family is in shock!!!it's like the badder it is, the more she enjoys it!
it's horrible to feel this way, but no one wants her home for the holidays and since we found out she had been abusing all the little children in the family [7 of them] in various ways.........well, you can understand. the police say we are legally responsible for her until she is 18 and we are trying to figure some way "legal" to keep her from coming home. it has everyone stressed out!!
we've done the counseling thing and the counselors advise us if she ever touches another child to pick up the phone and call the police ---- seems to me that's like letting a poisonous snake run around in your house and just call the doctor should anyone get bit!!!
anyway, wish you luck in your situation. it's sad that something that should bring us such joy sometimes brings such pain. i'm open to any suggestions...........
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
13 Sep 09
You and your wife need to agree to living with this boy first. After you can agree, you both need to decide what you want from him. Set a list of rules and consequences. If he is a guest in your house than he needs to act as such. Good luck!
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@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
I understand what you mean my friend...thanks for that but we've done it already several times but still no progress at all...thanks again..
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
13 Sep 09
Is should be enrolled in some kind of school, College or a Trade School. That would keep him out of hair a better part of the day. Plus maybe you and your wife need to sit him down and tell him what the rules of the house are. Such as taking care of certain chores in the house. Making sure his room is clean and clothes are washed. Even if someone needs to show him how to do this stuff, show him. You said it right, its not really his fault. Its his parents, they did not do him justice while raising him and never taught him correctly. Please try and control your temper and try to help him instead of being an enemy. He probably was never shown any type of love and is lost. Good luck and I hope this helps in some way.
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@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
14 Sep 09
Hello my friend your right. That's the first option I suggested to this kid but he never likes it...the problem is my wife instead of this kid to work for just simple job she pointed it to me..it is really frustrating..she never teach of something that make this kid useful in our home....yes I will hold my temper as long as I could...thanks for responding..
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@UmiNoor (4523)
• Malaysia
13 Sep 09
I can understand your frustration with this boy but he's already 17 and as a teenager, he's already quite fixed in his attitude. I think you should lay down the ground rules if he were to live with you. If he can't accept the rules then he can always go back and stay with his grandmother since he is his grandmother's favorite. I don't think you have any obligation to take care of him. Your only problem is with your wife. You must make sure that your wife and you are on the same side before you approach the boy with your ground rules. Your wife and you must agree on the rules otherwise this boy will take advantage of your disagreement. Hope this helps and good luck.
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@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
14 Sep 09
Thanks for that advised. Yes we will talk first with my wife on this matter..thanks for responding...
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@silverglint (2000)
• Philippines
17 Sep 09
I think that if he will be living under YOUR roof, then he has to abide by YOUR rules. Maybe it has not been clear to him that he has to at least do something in return for the food and lodging if that is expected of him. You can first talk to your wife about it and when you are in agreement, it will be easier to implement the rules. If the boy sees that wife is not supporting you then he will use that against you and it will be the reason why he will not follow the rules. But if he sees that you both agree about the rules then he will have no choice but the follow if he still wants to stay with you.
@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
2 Oct 09
Hello my friend..sad to say, my wife tolerated this guy. What I observed is still she never teach him some even simple house chores he could do until now. Whole dayt just watching tv, dvd etc etc..sleeping, eating... I could not complain anymore because it would spark a big quarrel...thanks for responding..
@callarse1 (4783)
• United States
14 Sep 09
Okay, so your wife is his aunt. Sorry for your situation. We all have problems and they aren't easy all the time, right?
Being that your wife is his aunt, and being that you are his uncle, and that you are both adults, you ARE able to make rules and regulations that your nephew must follow. First thing is first, you ***MUST*** talk with your wife so that you agree on the ground rules (such as curfew, what the nephew eats, what the nephew does as chores, etc).
Second, it's a good thing to talk with your nephew. You've got to see it from his point of view while explaining why he has to do these things. Explain that wearing dirty clothes is a turn off to girls, and that people don't like being around people with dirty clothes. Explain that washing clothes is a chore that many people have to do. (Perhaps he could work a part time job to pay for a laundry service?)
Explain that eating fish will give him protein for his muscles. Eating vegetables will give him vitamins he needs. Perhaps you could do stew, soups, or stir fry so he cannot hardly notice these vegetables or fish. You may consider cooking chicken, beef, pork or tofu if possible.
Moreover, explain to him he cannot possible do these things in USA (not washing clothes, etc).
I wish you the best. Have a nice day.
Yours,
Pablo
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@callarse1 (4783)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Thanks for the best response.
Even though you may think he isn't responding you can still affect him. Keep on talking with him. Perhaps you could watch a movie with him. That would be nice, perhaps he need to see a therapist.
@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
Hello my friend Pablo...I appreciate you for trying to help me solve my problem. Sad to say yes we'd done this already but nothing's change progressively. I just concluded that whatever advises and ways to solve this problem would just be wasted because he has mental problem, mentally disturb. He needs a psycho therapist..thanks for responding...
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@robert19ph (4577)
• Philippines
13 Sep 09
hello mobhomeir,
i know how you feel with him. i think the best thing that you can do to him is to get his attention. be friendly to him. then if you think that he is getting along with you, then maybe you can give him some advice/s. he needs someone to guide him. hope it's not too late yet. just be patience to him. train him in household chores. he needs that too.
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@robert19ph (4577)
• Philippines
19 Sep 09
I think his character is already molded. I do hope he find some good role model to follow.
@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
You know what my friend robert? This advises of yours were already said and explain to him several times, everything what you suggested were being done already, but still nothing good happen..what I suspected with this kid is he has a psychological problem that needs a psychologist for his mental therapy..that's what I think..well anyway thanks for your advise and concern I appreciate it...
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@TrvlArrngr (4045)
• United States
13 Sep 09
I think it is his self esteem. Everyone is telling him how worthless he is that he believes it and has no ambition left. Try to point out what he does well. Does he play video games - can he beat a level? Good hand eye coordination. Sit and watch one of his favorite movies with him. Try to bond on his level and you might find that he starts to open up to you.
It is a difficult situation to be in especially since he is not your child. I sometimes feel anger and frustration at my teenagers but being angry and yelling never solves anything.
Good luck and keep us all posted.
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@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
You have an idea my friend. Yeah what he's best is for being a computer (games) addict. The allowance that been given to him during his school days were all went to computer and he never reported to his class....well we'd tried it already for being with him at his mastery but still its no help...I just concluded that this boy has mental problem.He's mentally disturb and of course the only answer for this problem is psycho therapist...thank for responding...
@TrvlArrngr (4045)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Has he seen a psycho therapist yet? Perhaps he needs an evaluation...
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
13 Sep 09
Hello Martin,
Hehehe,don't hang him amigo,tie him under a mango tree with ants...(joke,joke joke hahaha)
Well,this is very usual with spoiled kids.
My second son is not a spoiled one,i tried my best to raise him as a good kid.But when he is outside our house,which is beyond my control...sometimes he is being influenced by his friends.He is now 13 yrs.old and starting to explore the new things for being a new man(becoming a gentlemen whew!!!)
This thing really makes me hard...coz i can't relate with him or either he is too shy to tell me (i guess you know about it amigo)huhuhuhu!!!!
With regards with your wife's nephew...i guess,he needs just a little dose of discipline.Why not talk to him like a little man too my friend...he just need some barkada...and i think you can win him with just a little patience and ...a little time...why not give it a try amigo.
@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
Hello my dear bonita mia..you know what? You're boy has normal way of thinking unlike ours. This kid of ours has not. In my conclusion this kid has mental problem. Mentally disturb that the best solution for this is a psycho therapist...if his parents surrendered to him how much we? Well, i will try my best not to let this kid stay longer here in our house. I will find ways to let him fly to the moon... thanks for your advise and respond...
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
13 Sep 09
Hello
This is why mylot is the best place to just let it out, I would say talk to him, sit him down and tell him how you feel, what you expect from him, my niece was like this coming up and she worked my last nerve, she was spoiled by certain people and always seem to do things to piss me off, I did not like her at all, now she is so much better, all she wants is to live with me, I laugh considering I really did not like her coming up, now when she is not with me I miss her so much, the only thing I can think of that made her change is talking too her, I use to sit her down and explain things to her I told her how her attitude just pushes people away, I explained to her that her mom needs all the help she can get considering she does not seem to have this parenting thing down, but if you continue to have such a screwed up attitude no one is going to want to help you or be around you, I also told her some people are obligated and others are not, when you have people in your life helping you when they really have no obligation you should appreciate them, it took time but she realizes now, when she is with me, she always say auntie can I help you, or auntie what can I do for you, or look what I did, sometimes sitting them down and talking with them I mean no sugar coating just telling them what is what they actually get it. another thing I was the one person that did not put up with her nonsense and she respected me for that, although she is a little younger I feel it is never too late to just sit them down and really talk to them "not at them" to them.
I wish you luck, hope everything works out as it did for me.
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@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
Wow I appreciate that. That would be a good advise if this kid knows how to understand.Believe it or not, we've done already all the best solution to his problem but nothing works well. What I concluded to this kid is he has a psychological problem, mentally disturb and he needs a therapist...that for all your advise and concerns and also for this wonderful respond...
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Hello my friend
This is really sad to hear, I really hope for his sake some miracle will take place and things will work themself out, going to a therapist scares me what happens if they medicate him and things get worse, I wish you all the best, I feel so bad for everyone involved, more so this young man that needs something but for some reason will not tell you what it is, maybe the therapist will be able to get it out of him, I only hope he opens up.
Good luck, again I am so sorry.
@resssaaa (445)
• Philippines
13 Sep 09
Wow, that's pretty much of a big problem. I am 17 and I don't think my parents had raised me that kind of way. He's already 17 and a big boy now so I guess he already knows what's right and what's wrong. Tough way of discipline would do him the trick since you can't make him act mature for his age through nice gestures. Try talking to him about it. Maybe it will help him realize that he would not attain anything sensible when he grows up.
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@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
Yes you're right but only for those normal people like you whom have same age with our kid...there were already lots of people advising this young stubborn guy but still nothings change progressively...what I understand is, he needs to have a psycho therapist..thanks for your concern and respond..I appreciate that really
@rg0205 (2636)
• Hong Kong
13 Sep 09
First of all, I think it's nice of you not to throw him out because I think you care about your wife and you love her. You're doing it for her, even if you hate the boy.
I don't think he is a boy - at 17, he is a young man and many people younger than that are already working in the Philippines. I noticed you're from Cebu when I checked your profile - hope you don't mind.
I think the only way you can resolve this is to talk to your wife about it. If that doesn't work, then, talk to the young man and lay down some ground rules. It's just the very basic stuff like he has to clean up after himself, help with the household chores, or LEAVE. I don't think you'd be unreasonable if he didn't cooperate because after all, it is already more than enough to offer him accommodation at your home. Just be mindful of your wife's relatives.
Alternately, you can suggest that he stay with his grandma instead. I would want to help him but if he doesnt help himself, then no one else can do much for him.
He is 17. He is no longer a boy. He can already be a father. In one year, he will be an adult under the law so he should learn to change and if not, then I think he should start fending for himself and make his own means of living.
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@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
Yes my friend I appreciate that idea. We've done it already several times but nothing's change. What I just concluded this kid, he has mental disturbance, he needs a psycho therapist..Thanks anyway guy I appreciate that ...
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
13 Sep 09
mobhomeir well now you have to set down some rules and'
then sit him down and tell him, hey look this you will'do
and this you will do as you are under my supervision. if
you do not follow my rules of myhome then you can find'yourself
another home or go back to your parents. He must not be allowed'to be a sponger, he is young and can still learn if someonetakes'the
time to be tough though loving with him.Also makehim know that
'wifes nephew or not he must do his share in your home.
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@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
Well you have an idea. That's suppose to be. But the problem is my wife because she never help me imposing it instead she's very lenient on imposing discipline to this kid...I just concluded that this kid has mental problem, he's mentally disturb and he needs a psycho therapist...thanks for responding...
@yecal10 (143)
• United States
14 Sep 09
The more you look at his deficiencies, the bigger they will become. Just find one thing good about him and think and concentrate on that. Then the next day, find another one thing good and think and concentrate on that. You will be surprised how the situation will change.
@mobhomeir (7558)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
I understand that my friend. But, you can never find good to this kid. What I know that makes him good are eating and sleeping and watching dvd movies and that's alll..thanks then for your advise and respond...