Can Soaps Survive Without Affairs?
By Brian
@wolfie34 (26771)
United Kingdom
September 14, 2009 2:21pm CST
I along with countless millions of others out in the TV world love to watch Soaps, it's my entertainment which I enjoy, although I only watch two soaps Emmerdale and Coronation Street but nevertheless it's good to switch off and just watch them during the week in the evenings.
But what got me thinking was that Soaps are mainly all about affairs and who's going off with who. Now call me old fashioned but doesn't this glorify affairs? Doesn't it send out the wrong messages to everyone watching soaps that affairs are acceptable? affairs make the world go round and life is all about affairs?
Is it any wonder why divorce rates are so high? Because Affairs are not only glorified on television through soaps, but also splashed across the newspapers, talked about and heard about numerous times that you can't escape them?
Do Affairs really make the soaps? Do you think that without affairs soap operas would die a natural death and the ratings would plummet?
Could you imagine watching a soap where there were NO affairs? Could this be done? But would it lose it's fascination? Watching over people's lives being destroyed when their so called husband/wife/partner goes off with someone else? Is this entertainment?
Do we really get enjoyment out of seeing someone, albeit it's just a storyline but seeing their life torn apart through an affair?
It's like cashing in on someone else's misery, but can we separate it from real life?
And is the amount the affairs that happen in Soapland disproprotionate from the amount of affairs that happen in real life?
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22 responses
@Humbug25 (12540)
•
15 Sep 09
Hi ya wolfie34
Hmm good question! I am not sure it glorifies affairs or condones (you found my dictionary yet?) them I think they want you to dislike a character and throwing them into an affair is a good way of doing that, along with murdering someone lol I think that in soapland a lot of things happen in a short space of time to so many people that just wouldn't happen in daily life. If people can just remember that is only a tv program then I think we will be fine. lol I have heard people talking about Eastenders as if it was someone they knew in their town, it's so funny!! lol
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
15 Sep 09
Wolfie bows his head in shame, as he does this Emmerdale, I get too involved with it and I start talking to the characters and sometimes I feel it's like real life. If a character I don't like gets their just desserts I am cheering, sad ain't I?!!!
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@doglady112 (604)
• Canada
15 Sep 09
I know what you mean, I'm watching All My Children. Now remind me again how many husbands has Erica Cane had? I think that Zach and Kendal should just kiss and make up. I can't stand him keeping her prisoner in their house. But I kinda feel the same way in my own house. I hate that Adam has been paired up with Annie and they're going to marry. eww. As far as affairs, there's just one. It's between Ryan and Erica, double eww. Oh yeah and Annie and Scott, Adam's nefew are getting on. I guess if Adam can't get it there's always Scott to fall back on. Anyway I don't think the same way you do. I find soaps are a way of escaping my hard to live life.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
14 Sep 09
Wolfie! xx
I think it's a case of which came first egg/chicken. The soaps are reflecting real life right? So are divorces a result of the soaps ot are the soaps portraying the picture first?
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@cloudwatcher (6861)
• Australia
15 Sep 09
Here in Australia, the divorce rate went up after the introduction of TV and the soaps.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
15 Sep 09
Oh really cloudwatcher? I wonder if quiz shows lead to us learning positive things too or if it is only the negatives that have such an impact
Wolfie I have read that comment 4 times so far and I'm still confused
Can you really manage to see behind you?
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Sep 09
Oh they probably couldn't survive without affairs. Or divorces. Or people switching partners. Or children whose parentage is called into question. Or deaths, illnesses, etc. Sometimes the writers take things way too far though. Sometimes I think they're really smoking something funny when they write some of that stuff.
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
15 Sep 09
But those that can't cheat, there is a special tear thing actors/actresses can use that brings on tears, so even those that find it hard to cry can! Maybe I should get one so I can cry tears I have that problem. Unless I watch Titanic and that usually helps and guess what the Titanic had an affair, oh boy, seems every program and film you watch has an affair, see what I mean? Wolfie smiles as he is single and hasn't that worry about affairs.
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@cloudwatcher (6861)
• Australia
15 Sep 09
Don't forget the TEARS Dawn. Is the number one requirement of an actor for a soapie that they can CRY?
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Sep 09
Well now, there is a difference between a love affair and an illicit affair... But most shows seem to have one or the other.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
14 Sep 09
Hi wolfie, don't kick me too hard but I just can't resist: my yogurt and my honey had an affair recently and now they've joined togther as a soap. True actually.
OK I grew up on coronation street and I'm trying to think back to when the affairs first started, Ena Sharples, Hilda Ogden, I can't remember. Brian Tilsey, was he the first. It's entertainment Wolfie and it probably looks a bit seedy because it's the back streets of Wetherfield. In Eurpopean countries every one has affairs without destroying lives, well not everyone of course but the point is it is real life. I'm out of date with soaps now for quite a few years but the thought of some little twerp like Kevin the mechanic having an affair isn't exactly very realsitic.
(Is Curly Watts back yet, he was always so amusing).
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
14 Sep 09
Hi Thea, yes you are out of date, Curly left donkeys years ago, I know that some countries get to see Brit Soaps but they are so far behind. I guess also in any country soaps are big business and everyone around the world wants to see an affair, the grittier and nastier the better it seems, as long as it's not in our own homes so to speak and on the box!
@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
14 Sep 09
Hiya wolfie34,
Affairs are the heartbeat and pulse of the soap operas what on earth would you do without them. Sure you can wind other storylines around the main soap affair. But if you take away the main affair in the soap then everyone will start to look to the others that are left to see what they do in their mini love affairs. That´s the way I see it. I loved Coronation Street but you cannot see it here or Emmerdale Farm both were my favourites. However we had a local favourite in the Midlands Crossroads lol. Can I hear a groan of oh no! But this was about us Brummies a least part of it was anyway. There was no end of love affairs going on in Crossroads as well. But the one that took my heart the most was "Take The High Road" lol
it was more genuine like Emmerdale Farm. Affairs are everywhere in the soaps.
Ages ago there was a Soap Opera on the Television here it was called the Pink Lady another translation could be the lady who was dressed in pink and everyone was taken over by this soap opera. The main two from Venezuela Carlos Mata played the part of Tito Clemente and Jeannette Rodriguez played Gabriela. This soap affair had everyone on the edge of their seats for weeks. People would try and skip work just to see it. Everyone in the Bars was there crowded around the Televisions watching every minute of it. A love affair beautifully written it had everything drama, love affairs besides the main one but the love affair that everyone was interested in was Tito and Gabriela. Heartbeat and pulse of the whole telenovela as we call them here. There has only ever been one since to compare with it.
Do away with love affairs and you kill the series off I think anyhow.
Take care.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
20 Nov 12
Soap operas are certainly not a part of my viewing choice, although it is impossible not to be aware of their popularity on television. Most soap operas tend to depend on gossip, which seems to be the main attraction because there is insufficient gossip available in real life for many people. As a result their has to be something dramatic happening all the time to keep the viewers attention.
There are several options such as catastrophes, marriages, family feuds etcetera, but without the presence of affairs then the scope would be more limited. I doubt if many soap operas could have maintained their success without the occasional affair to give people something to talk about.
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@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
21 Nov 12
they are so popular here in mexico. Even men watch them here.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
21 Sep 09
Oh wolfie, I have to disagree with you. soaps are not just about affairs. I'm watching Days of Our Lives right now and someone has been murdered.
I think affairs are only a small part of soaps....it's the case of the one I'm watching anyway. There are way to many other things going on ...there isn't an affair going on at the moment. To me, it's about the people and the dynamics of the various families involved and I don't see that anything is glorified ...except for maybe overdressing or perhaps there are too many functions where the cast get to dress up in lovely clothes. I love the clothes part of soaps, the hair dos, the jewellery.
It depends too what you mean by affairs...do you mean who is cheating on whom or who is falling in love with whom. I still think that the whole thing is about the entire faMILY DYNAMICS, NOT JUST WHO IS WITH WHOM.
@derek_a (10874)
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15 Sep 09
When I attended a writing course some time back, for a while we were writing film and stage plays. What I noticed was that the story varies very little, but the characters do. The message that our class was given was to first of all find a central character, then give him/her a problem, then find a solution. This didn't always have to be a happy solution.
Yes, I agree there is a fascination with watching other people's lives getting torn apart through infidelity etc. These story-lines certainly attract high viewing figures. Newspapers are the same, full of doom and gloom and what they put in newspapers they put in because it sells.
Many people who watch these soaps even think that the plots and characters are real. They are so real for some people, that they even send in threatening letters trying to get them to stop what they are doing.
Do soaps entice people to emulate their characters? Or are soaps just reflecting everyday life? That was an interesting question we posed quite often in our writing workshops, and we never did really find an answer.
I can think back to the 60s when I was a kid and Coronation Street first started. Divorce rate was already on a steep rise back then, and the show seemed to follow suit afterwards.. So maybe it was reflecting real life back then, but now has switched around? I don't know. It's anybody guess. - Derek
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@hiddenwing (3719)
• China
15 Sep 09
Oh, they can't live the life of milk and water...Apparently, having affairs is not good! When people turn to be adults, they should know responsiblity...it means they have to give up what they want, so that they can choose what is right...
Once comes to the soaps, all they want is the rate...They have already put the rating to the test...I guess what the soap ends up with...is the result of their experiment...
However, not all people like these soaps...they are only popular for some people...there are still some others without affairs at all...
Prison Break has no affairs , i guess..but I am not sure whether it is so-called a soap
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Hey wolfie! I guess you are right! But, I don't know which
comes first, the soaps imitating real life or real life just
happening! I think that people would still have affairs no
matter what the soaps would portray. I can't say that the
soaps don't glorify affairs and other bad behavior because they
surely do! But, I so do love watching all that stuff! I am
now down to only following one! If you think about it everything
on television is really bad! It is all taken from things that
happen in real life, damn here in America more than half the
shows are "real life" shows to begin with and they are really
twisted! I don't think you can blame the soaps for what people
choose to do or not do! It's just entertainment for those that
want believe it or not believe it! I don't think by watching it
that it will "make" someone go out and have an affair if they
were never planning to in the first place!
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@sanjana_aslam (4187)
• Malaysia
15 Sep 09
hi wolfie ..
well ... the story line will be boring without the spice of "affair" - i rememember during my very young age, my mother used to watch "Dallas" and the character of Sue Ellen and JR seem to be stuck on my head .. and following that there were alot more of this SOAP OPERAS that came and went .. but the story line and the characters seem not much different from what i watched with my mother ...
after that ... "identical twins" this is another thing in soap operas, there are always one good and one evil ..
cheers
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Hello wolfie34
I have been watching soaps for years, I find them amusing and would never do half of what I see done on my favorite show, take General Hospital for instance the character Sam has slept with most of the leading men except for one, and I may be wrong about that, she slept with brothers, best friends mothers husband, its amazing lol I would hope anyone with half a brain would not follow in her footsteps,I honestly believe this is just one of the main purposes of soaps so without this they will be some what boring, it has been this way for years, in soap land this is considered the norm I am upset that it looks like they are going to put one of the good girls (as good as soap can get) with her long time loves/ex husbands brother this really pisses me off, but I will continue to watch lol
I understand what you mean, but I do believe this plays a very important part in the whole concept of soap opera, they come up with the strangest pairs but this only draws us in just to see what will happen, alot of time I find myself screaming at the t.v yet I have to watch, when I miss it I need to know what happened lol
Thank you, good question.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
10 Oct 09
If there were no affairs, there would be no soaps. People aren't getting divorced because of the affairs on T.V. They are following their bliss and getting out of bad relationships. I love to see a good love triangle. For me that's when all three charaters are good people.It is better than when one is a B!tch or bast@rd.
@Bluepatch (2476)
• Trinidad And Tobago
15 Sep 09
Years ago, like about forty of them I used to listen to a serialized murder drama on the radio. It was the most interesting thing you could hope to hear and I followed it night after night along with hundreds of other Trinidadians of that day. I was about six or seven years old.
That, I believe was the antecedent of today's soaps and it was a murder story.
So there's your answer.
You can " soap " anything. It does not have to be a breathless heart and scandal business.
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@wolfie34s_sis (93)
• Canada
25 Sep 09
This is the exact reason I stopped my addiction to watching Soaps. There is so much more out there to stimulate the mind and body; the 7th Commandment: "Thou shalt not commit adultery" almost seems forgotten. It's too easy these days to be easily distracted; "plant the seed, let it grow" is destructive to the family unit. Go about life, living, laughing, loving, without the stress. Love the one you're with. OK, by now you're all thinking, is this lady nuts? The quick answer is: yes. The not-so-quick answer is: strict catholic girl upbringing. PMSL In answer to your question: "Can Soaps Survive Without Affairs?" NO! Human nature is compelled to watch as opposed to doing. Soaps can be a means of escape for so many.
@agalbraith (10)
• United States
15 Sep 09
I do not watch soaps all that offten, but when i have the best part was who was with who next! Affairs are things that happen in real life all the time and people will gossip about them because it makes them feel better. Maybe watching them on tv also makes them feel better?
@deboliver50 (3)
• United States
15 Sep 09
In my opinion "no", they couldn't. Affairs, murder, the occult, all of these are contributing aspects of soap operas. Marriage, in my opinion, is not held in the same high regard as in our parents lifetime. I think that a union similiar to a "lease" should be incorporated. You could draw up a lease agreement for a specified number of years and if the two people agree on the time frame then a contract is drawn up. It can incorporate a "pre-nup" along with any other condition the party of two want to include in the contract. At the end of the "lease" if either party decides not to renew the lease then each go their separate ways. But if the party of two decides to re-up, then, of course, everything is renegotiated. I think I just turned your discussion into one of the union of marriage. Sorry.
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@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
21 Nov 12
Without affairs and scanda ls no one would watch soaps. Thats what makes them so fun to watch.