Does this actually happen?
By VANILLAREY
@VANILLAREY (1470)
India
September 15, 2009 4:06am CST
I have been watching it on movies and other media. A man opens the door for his perfectly healthy wife or girlfriend. The same thing when she wants to get out of the car. Sometimes the man adjusts the chair for the girl to sit down. This would be shown as good manners or actions of a gentleman in movies.
Does such thing actually happen in real life? Are girls so lazy that they can't open the door herself? I understand its good manners if the woman is old, injured or disabled. But does it really happen for healthy woman? Do you consider it a part of gentleman's behavior? How is it in your country?
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@aicasalinks (303)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
I still see some guys who do these things with their partners but majority of the guys I know do not. Being a woman, I know how ti feels when a guy does all these gentleman stuff to me. It feels like I am being treated as a queen or princess. It turns me on when a guy is gentle and respects me as a woman. But reality wise, such guy rarely exists.
@morethanamolehill (1586)
• United States
16 Sep 09
Thes guys do exist. It's just that the attitude of most women today has caused them to give up on chivalry. After you have been told off by several women with attitudes like the original poster you just say OK screw it open your own dang door. I still open doors for women though and they usually like it.
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@cloudwatcher (6861)
• Australia
15 Sep 09
Permit someone from a previous generation to answer.
I am now 73 but when I was young, it was the common practice of men to open doors for ladies, to always walk on the kerbside, and to help in any way. As a lady, I would stand and wait for the man to open a door.
When the women's liberation movement started and women fought for equal rights, we lost our femininity, so those days are basically unknown in the younger generation.
Thankfully, after almost 50 years of happy marriage, my husband still opens the door for me and treats me as a lady. Yes, I am quite capable of doing it myself. In fact, I am possibly more capable than he is, but he chooses to be a gentleman and I graciously accept. I know several other men of my generation who act the same way - and a few younger ones too.
@AmbiePam (92709)
• United States
15 Sep 09
I'm with you CloudWatcher. And to say women are lazy for letting a man do that gets my ire up. My dad still holds the door open for my mother, after 34 years of marriage. I'm 28 and every date I've ever had has insisted opening the doors for me. It's refreshing. We don't ask for it, they just have the courtesy of offering.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
15 Sep 09
Great response!
This topic made me feel my age and I am younger than you but you set it all out just like it is. Women wanted equal rights and 'liberation' and it seems they got it. Along with it came the fact that 'chivalry' became almost extinct *sighs*.
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@VANILLAREY (1470)
• India
15 Sep 09
One more doubt. Do ladies do something which makes a man feel like a gentleman? I mean are there any actions which show respect towards the man?
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@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
15 Sep 09
That used to happen quite often in prior years in the U.S. I think it was out of courtesy for the women and for the man to be a gentleman. I do not think it is because of the woemn being lazy at all though. It is out of respect. It does not happen a whole lot these days though. Alot of men have lost respect for women.
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@ladyhope (377)
• Canada
15 Sep 09
I don't think it is a question of men losing respect for women. I think that woman fought for equality and got just that - including opening their own doors. And as far as I am concerned, if opening my own door is what I have to do to get equal pay, by all means, I will do it!! That being said, there are some young guys who will still act like "gentlemen" and do these kind of things.
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@drannhh (15219)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Perfectly healthy, but wearing high heels, carrying a baby, a handbag full of the guy's stuff? Or perfectly healthy in sensible shoes, and the guy has a heavy crate in his hands. It depends on the circumstances. HOWEVER, the ettiquette in my area is that yes, the man does open the door not only for his wife or girlfriend but for anybody else who is going through at about the same time. Yes, that is good manners. It must not be done in a patronizing way, however, or the target will get mad. I've seen that happen. It is like when 4 cars all come into a 4-2ay intersection at once and there is indecision over who got there first. If a man angrily gestures me through because he thinks he is supposed to let a woman go first, I am furious. It is not safe to go first when the other person is crazy. If a man opens the door and tries to make the female go through first so he can look at her behind, this is NOT courtesy.
It is not about laziness. Would we accuse a man of being lazy under similar circumstances? Women hold up half of the sky but in most households here and around the world we do FAR more actual work than men and for a whole lot less money. I may be an exception to the rule, but my heart still breaks for my sisters on every continent.
What do I expect a man to do if we are both approaching a door? To use his brain, then smile, nod, gesture politely, or even ask, "May I get that for you?" And hear this carefully, please. When a woman says "no" she means NO!
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
15 Sep 09
“A man opens the door for his perfectly healthy wife or girlfriend. The same thing when she wants to get out of the car. Sometimes the man adjusts the chair for the girl to sit down. This would be shown as good manners or actions of a gentleman in movies.”
It is good manners for a gentleman to do those things for a lady. It is not to patronize her or for her to take advantage of the man; it is a sign of respect. Unfortunately not too many men treat women like that anymore and use women’s liberation as an excuse not to be attentive but little do these men know that by being a gentleman and doing kind things for the lady their kindness would be reciprocated tenfold!
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
16 Sep 09
I guess that in regards to women, there are many things that they can do to show the man they appreciate them. Women are nurturers by nature and enjoy taking care of their man providing they are treated right to begin with. I think that respect should be mutual between men and women.
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@VANILLAREY (1470)
• India
16 Sep 09
I understand it was a way of showing respect.
I am asking the same doubt to you as well. Do ladies do something which makes a man feel like a gentleman? I mean are there any actions which show respect towards the man?
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@med889 (5941)
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15 Sep 09
In my country here this is called good manner whether the woman is old or young however there are some youth here who do not seem to appreciate that too and they prefer the women themselves to open the door and close the door. So those who do it for women are called gentlemen.
@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
15 Sep 09
Yes, it does happen to us oldies who were brought up a certain way. Myself I fought very hard in the fight for women's equality in business, salaries and rights in my country. I am happy to say during my working career this was achieved in the institution where I worked. At the same time when I was young and taught etiquette we were taught that a gentleman opens the doors of cars and buildings, gives up a seat on the bus, pulls out a chair and adjusts its, gets up when a lady enters or leaves a room, walks on the outside when on a sidewalk so if there is a splash from the street it hits his legs and not the lady's. While fighting for equility we used to say "we can open our own doors, thank you very much, but if we have the same qualifications as a man we want the same salary. Now I see the young generation in my country does not adhere to the same rules. I taught my son however, to apply some of these rules with respect to the elderly, disabled and pregnant ladies and elderly disabled gentlemen.
To get back whether or not it still happens. Some of my elderly gentlemen friends and relatives who were trained in that etiquette still adhere to it. They jump out of the car when they pick me up and open the doors for me. It is not necessary but I guess they feel they would be ill mannered if they did not do it.
@AmbiePam (92709)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Lazy? That's ridiculous. Those kind of manners used to be the norm. Growing up, (and I'm only 28) boys in my school insisted on opening the door to classrooms for me, not going into the classroom until I went first. Back when the feminist movement picked up in the '70s (before I was born), women started to assert themselves and decline those kind of manners. But every guy I've ever gone out with has insisted on opening doors for me. When I make a fuss about doing it myself, it has always been a sore point for them. They want to do it. It's a sign of respect, although not necessary at all. Men respect women without doing anything like that. But manners like that are hard to find these days. So lazy? I repeat, that's ridiculous.
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@drannhh (15219)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Ditto on the thank you. I adore men but one thing I've never been able to figure out about most of them, though, is why they seem to think it is an indignity to simply ask a woman what her preference is instead of continually trying to second-guess it and then getting mad when they turn out to be wrong (again).
Although young, it sounds as if you have been most wise in selecting your friends and companions. Good for you!
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@patzel88 (3310)
• Philippines
15 Sep 09
Base on my observation, a man will be more gentleman if they are courting a woman or not yet married. It sometimes happened in here and i also seen some of the couple or married people that they are not caring for their wives. but in my situation as i am a person with responsibility or a married person, my husband showed me what really his all about in his life and what he likes and dislikes as in the time that we are in a relationship of being a bf and gf, i was very surprise and sometimes got turned off for being so open to me about his attitude until i realized that it is better to know each others ability and attitude for when the time come that to be bound to each other, it will be easier for the couple to resolve the any problem might happen to the couple.
My husband is still caring and loving to me and to my kids and he never changed his ways of living from the time we met and to this present.
@VANILLAREY (1470)
• India
15 Sep 09
Acting like a gentleman can get a guy a date.
Your husband seems straightforward. You are lucky.
Better to have a honest man rather than a cunning gentleman.
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@celticeagle (166911)
• Boise, Idaho
16 Sep 09
Are you serious?! What country are you from? I am of the old school. Back in the dark ages when women had class and men were GENTLEMEN,yes. Men used to take good care of their women, young or old. A woman doesn't have to be old or injuried to have a door opened for her. It is common curteousy and the gentlemanly thing to do.
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@celticeagle (166911)
• Boise, Idaho
20 Sep 09
You are lucky to have your hubby. Doesn't happy alot to day. i really think if people just did this in their own little corners of the world the world be alot nicer place to be in. Young people today are a real bad hazzard in my eyes. My grandson has been taught by me and it is cute to see him be a gentleman. He is only seven.
@arthi_88 (1516)
• India
17 Sep 09
I don't know if its right or wrong but that's the things have been happening..And frankly speaking girls like me surely love the extra attention..And yeah it does happen in real life..My dad always opens the car door for my mom, my boyfriend pulls the chair out for me in a restaurant and such small gestures but it does happen..It had started when girls who were well bred were supposed to be a proper lady and behave delicate in front of gentlemen as strength and self confidence was not what was wanted in a lady..and its continuing till now!
have a nice day!
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
17 Sep 09
It does not happen much here in Australia, I never do it myself and never see others doing it! Why should we men have to do that for women when they are perfectly able to do it themselves. If a woman expected me to do that, then I would assume her to be spoilt.
I think that it is an old fashioned habit that went out of style a long time ago! Women fought hard for equal rights last century, so if we are all equal then they can do it themselves!
Perhaps it is time for women to start opening doors for men to pay us back for all the benefits that they got from us!
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@VANILLAREY (1470)
• India
17 Sep 09
I think it happens mostly in US and UK. Or other countries where people learned their manners from them.
@elenyae (388)
• Australia
15 Sep 09
I think it's just a sign of a gentleman as long as he isn't doing it in a patronising way and like "Awww, the poor li'l female can't do it herself." I love being spoiled and pampered and so if a guy treats me like a princess, it obviously predisposes me more favorably towards a guy. So the whole opening the door isn't because I'm lazy or anything, it just makes a guy seem so much more gentlemanly. And of course I don't expect it on a regular basis or anything, just special occasions like a nice dinner or nights where I want to feel like a lady. :)
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
23 Sep 09
[b]Signs of a lady include (but isn't limited to) these things: A sense of decorum when called for, thoughtfulness of others' needs, gentleness, the ability to hold her tongue when others would find fault, kindness to all, even to those unkind to her, but a sense of righteous anger when dealing with wicked people--especially harmful ones--charity of heart, a well-rounded education, good sense, grace (physical & moral in dealing with others), industrious, modest, honest & trustworthy, not lazy, but finding useful & fulfilling work, clear & clean of speech, well-groomed, not slovenly (this does NOT mean spending hours primping!), graciousness when dealing with rude people or anyone who is somehow handicapped, in general, she should be well-rounded, able to converse competently without rancor (a point on which I occasionally fail...), & an all-around nice person to know.
Long live ladies & gentlemen!
Maggiepie
"WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]
@VANILLAREY (1470)
• India
15 Sep 09
Is there any signs which show that a woman is a 'Lady'(I guess that is the word)? Since you said that opening doors is a sign of a gentleman, I wanted to know what is the sign of a Lady or Princess?
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@kakabawani (23)
• India
15 Sep 09
you can count it on manners but most people dont do that in our country people dont do that
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Sep 09
hi vanillarey yes its so nice in the movies but in real life'a lot ot the time its every woman for herself,old, young and in between. yes a gentleman should do these things but most guys are not gentlemen
not in this modern age anyway. I am an american in the US and yes some men still do this but its not the norm for sure. I am old but nobody opens the door for me, I can do that myself thank you very much.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
16 Sep 09
Hey Vanillarey! This is what gentlemen are supposed to do if
they are GENTLEMEN! Unfortunately, there are not too many
gentlemen left that actually do these things anymore! But,
this is considered "proper" behavior in my country! It is
shameful that you have never heard or seen this done in real
life and it is shameful that men don't do this as often as
the should! Men are supposed to open doors and hold them
and allow woman to pass through them first! Opening car
doors is just another form of politeness!
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@Bloggership (1104)
• Indonesia
15 Sep 09
Lot of that happens on the movies... But it could be lot too happens in a real lifes... I think was nothing more than to give an honor or appreciations to its beloved... I don't think it's strange to see it for real...
@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
15 Sep 09
Hi vanillarey,
Some will and some won´t open the doors for women. I hold the doors open for most People whom I know and sometimes for others. But if the others have never been taught anything then they probably think it is a normal practice not to open doors.
In this country they still open doors for women stand up on a bus but only sometimes not always.
My husband holds me the door open and walks on the outside of the kerb.
No one ever taught him it just comes out of himself. I open the door for him too. We both do the same for each other.
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@realan (518)
• United States
15 Sep 09
My husband has always and still does hold the door for me. He carries my bags, he lets me go into a room first and holds out my chair etc. No, I'm not lazy. This is a sign of showing respect and affection. These are manners that were well taught by his parents. He respects his mother, sisters, aunts, cousins and all women this way. I live in the US and I still see men acting the gentleman. Some young and some old. Yesterday one younger man let me ahead of him on the bus line. It wasn't that I was older or there was anything wrong with me and I definitely didn't ask for it. I'm not old and perfectly healthy. He just has wonderful manners and respect for women. My manager at work also will hold a door etc. for women. It's just a sign of respect. Of course there are many men who don't do this, which is fine as long as they are not shutting the door in my face. LOL. It's still polite to hold the door open for the person behind you regardless of their gender and age.